Halo 5's dark plot twist

Halo 5 is said to be the Darkest Halo game of all. What if this happens. Halo 5 is built like Halo 2 with us switching roles between Master chief and Agent Locke. When playing as Chief we have lets say…Blue team helping us. When playing as Locke the Arbiter assist us. Now lets say that when playing as Locke the story leads us to thinking Locke has a very good reason to find chief. He even tells the Arbiter “The human race needs him. I have been sent to find him” We as the player start rooting for him to find chief. In the final third of the game we do find Chief. A cutscene starts playing out with what the player thinks is going to be a epic scene of unification between Locke and chief. But mid cutscene Locke opens fire on the Chief wounding him. Chief escapes though and the rest of the missions we play as chief trying to escape Locke. This is far fetched but just a idea for a unexpected dark twist that could come. Opinions?

I’m thinking it’s going to be the darkest as in MORE flood, MORE major characters death’s, more Chief finding the Human inside him and more Cortana sadness.

-Yoink- it, have Locke just straight up kill Chief, don’t go half-way with a wound we all know he won’t die from.

> -Yoink!- it, have Locke just straight up kill Chief, don’t go half-way with a wound we all know he won’t die from.

That would certainly be a unexpected plot twist. But I think it is best we keep chief alive. Kind of hard to explore his humanity if he is dead.

> > -Yoink!- it, have Locke just straight up kill Chief, don’t go half-way with a wound we all know he won’t die from.
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> That would certainly be a unexpected plot twist. But I think it is best we keep chief alive. Kind of hard to explore his humanity if he is dead.

While I don’t think we need a full trilogy to explore his humanity, it is safe to say that Chief won’t be dying anytime soon. I have to say though, with that in mind can we really do anything special twistwise towards Chief that would be satisfactory? Killing off Blue Team, for example, in their first game appearance if they are in Halo 5 would be an insult to the characters and make them a new Noble Team as far as depth is concerned.

> Halo 5 is said to be the Darkest Halo game of all.

There is no source for this; it’s pure speculation.

> > > -Yoink!- it, have Locke just straight up kill Chief, don’t go half-way with a wound we all know he won’t die from.
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> > That would certainly be a unexpected plot twist. But I think it is best we keep chief alive. Kind of hard to explore his humanity if he is dead.
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> While I don’t think we need a full trilogy to explore his humanity, it is safe to say that Chief won’t be dying anytime soon. I have to say though, with that in mind can we really do anything special twistwise towards Chief that would be satisfactory? Killing off Blue Team, for example, in their first game appearance if they are in Halo 5 would be an insult to the characters and make them a new Noble Team as far as depth is concerned.

Blue team are my favorite characters in all of Halo. I would be so angry if they brought them in just to kill them. As for a plot twist. If chief suffered a injury of lets say…A slow fatal nature. The kind of injury to where he can still fight but is slowly bleeding out and dying. Maybe even a quick time event during a mission of chief falling to his knees and barely having the strength to stand again. We as the fans would watch chief face death. Perfect place for a flashback cutscene to the events of Fall of Reach and the 4 games before starring him. We as the fans have saw chief face death before by “Giving the Covenant back there bomb” and such. But to slowly see him die I think would be a emotional journey for Long time and new fans. While dying he still has 1 massive task to accomplish. He does then he falls to the ground in a quicktime event and closes his eyes. After a long pause he awakens with the Librarian starring at him. Just a idea.

I’m still trying to figure out why the Chief would need to run from some little tool named Locke no-one’s ever heard of ; )

> I’m still trying to figure out why the Chief would need to run from some little tool named Locke no-one’s ever heard of ; )

Maybe Chief is not running from him but is on his own quest. But Locke is sent to get him. Chief don’t realize he is being chased till he meets Locke.

> > Halo 5 is said to be the Darkest Halo game of all.
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> There is no source for this; it’s pure speculation.

Actually, I heavily recall it being said in a GameInformer or something of that nature.

> -Yoink!- it, have Locke just straight up kill Chief, don’t go half-way with a wound we all know he won’t die from.

Maybe the shot should take off Chiefs arm so that we clearly know he’s the bad guy :wink:

Anywayas, going by what they did in Halo 4 I don’t think they can accomplish something like this. They need to work their way up rather then go for the gut punch.

Have a look at Gears of War. What they wanted to do with Dom was almost in the first game, but they knew they didn’t have enough time for players to get attached to Dom and their writings skills wasn’t up to par. So they held back and stretched it out for 2 more games.

Kill Halsey or nuke Earth ala Anavel Gato to the Federation fleet circa 0083

Would be neat to see an ODST spin on the campaign. Like how The Rookie was exploring the aftermath of what his teammates did and went through.

> Kill Halsey or nuke Earth ala Anavel Gato to the Federation fleet circa 0083

Not much a Trekkie, so I can’t picture the latter, but if they choose to do the former, 343 Industries will be a in a serious bind. Dragging a popular, if not controversial, figure like Halsey through the mud with a trilogy of books and having the leader writer for Halo labeling her a monster hasn’t won them much acclaim and senselessly killing Halsey for a twist won’t win them any favors. It would be shocking, but then again so would be killing Chief, Blue Team, Lasky or any other likable character.

That and Frankie kinda suggested that they are moving past the mud dragging and have interesting things in store that will win over the people turned off by Kilo-5, best to not make promises he can’t keep, no?

> > > Halo 5 is said to be the Darkest Halo game of all.
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> > There is no source for this; it’s pure speculation.
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> Actually, I heavily recall it being said in a GameInformer or something of that nature.

No, he is right. So far it is just speculation. We tried hunting for a source on this thread to no avail: Halo 5 darker?

I can imagine the Flood having to had set a trap in a region of space Humanity not Covenant had reclaimed yet.

Converting a whole planet into a ball of Flood biomass without detection, waiting for a new approach to attack without resorting to stalemate.

I mean what is stopping them from literally hurling worlds?

> > Kill Halsey or nuke Earth ala Anavel Gato to the Federation fleet circa 0083
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> Not much a Trekkie, so I can’t picture the latter, but if they choose to do the former, 343 Industries will be a in a serious bind. Dragging a popular, if not controversial, figure like Halsey through the mud with a trilogy of books and having the leader writer for Halo labeling her a monster hasn’t won them much acclaim and senselessly killing Halsey for a twist won’t win them any favors. It would be shocking, but then again so would be killing Chief, Blue Team, Lasky or any other likable character.
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> That and Frankie kinda suggested that they are moving past the mud dragging and have interesting things in store that will win over the people turned off by Kilo-5, best to not make promises he can’t keep, no?

The reference is Gundam (which is even a more obscure fan set, when compared to trekkies).

And I agree, killing Halsey off would not go down well with the fan base. At least not without some serious efforts on behalf the writers. About the only acceptable Halsey death I can quickly think of is her choosing to die in order to save others - like Jorge’s choice to take down the Covenant Super Carrier. Except I would expect it to be really big - like triggering a halo firing to wipe out the flood.

> > > Kill Halsey or nuke Earth ala Anavel Gato to the Federation fleet circa 0083
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> > Not much a Trekkie, so I can’t picture the latter, but if they choose to do the former, 343 Industries will be a in a serious bind. Dragging a popular, if not controversial, figure like Halsey through the mud with a trilogy of books and having the leader writer for Halo labeling her a monster hasn’t won them much acclaim and senselessly killing Halsey for a twist won’t win them any favors. It would be shocking, but then again so would be killing Chief, Blue Team, Lasky or any other likable character.
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> > That and Frankie kinda suggested that they are moving past the mud dragging and have interesting things in store that will win over the people turned off by Kilo-5, best to not make promises he can’t keep, no?
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> The reference is Gundam (which is even a more obscure fan set, when compared to trekkies).
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> And I agree, killing Halsey off would not go down well with the fan base. At least not without some serious efforts on behalf the writers. About the only acceptable Halsey death I can quickly think of is her choosing to die in order to save others - like Jorge’s choice to take down the Covenant Super Carrier. Except I would expect it to be really big - like triggering a halo firing to wipe out the flood.

My mistake on the Gundam bit, I just naturally associated Federation with Trek.

> > > > Halo 5 is said to be the Darkest Halo game of all.
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> > > There is no source for this; it’s pure speculation.
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> > Actually, I heavily recall it being said in a GameInformer or something of that nature.
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> No, he is right. So far it is just speculation. We tried hunting for a source on this thread to no avail: Halo 5 darker?

“O’Conner also stated that the trilogy will get much worse before it gets better, meaning Halo 5 will likely be a fairly bleak affair before Halo 6 resolves the coming conflict.”

> > > > > Halo 5 is said to be the Darkest Halo game of all.
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> > > > There is no source for this; it’s pure speculation.
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> > > Actually, I heavily recall it being said in a GameInformer or something of that nature.
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> > No, he is right. So far it is just speculation. We tried hunting for a source on this thread to no avail: Halo 5 darker?
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> http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/halo-4-story-details-leaked/#!4Frat
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> “O’Conner also stated that the trilogy will get much worse before it gets better, meaning Halo 5 will likely be a fairly bleak affair before Halo 6 resolves the coming conflict.”

Isn’t that a bit of non-information? No trilogy ends the second book/game/film with a happy ending, you screw everything up in the second one to get people to come back for the third. It’s basic narrative structure, it doesn’t necessarily mean the game will be inherently darker in terms of the issues it puts forward. It just means the story will seem hopeless by the end of 5, which is fairly common. If you want a good example in recent memory, go look at the end of the second Hobbit movie. The only difference is that everyone already knows the ending to that series.

If 343 really wanted to explore the dark aspects of the Halo universe, they’d have to focus on things like ONI. Even interesting interactions like how the ODST’s are very aggressive towards the Spartan program, yet we never see this in game. Hell just the realization that not everyone sees the Spartans as heroes would be new for the Halo games. But these are aspects which are unlikely to come up much in Halo 5.