Halo 5 what an epic update this would be

I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
please add in the comments what else should be added

All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR.
Bayonet assassinations.
Armour skin editor.

It’d be cool, but you know it’s not possible, right?

I know that, just wishful thinking.

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> All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR.
> Bayonet assassinations.
> Armour skin editor.

What he said. Everything else isn’t happening either for technological reasons or simply for thought of lack of use.

I always vehemently disliked duel-wielding, but to each their own.

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> I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> please add in the comments what else should be added

Offline-anything is straight up impossible at this point due to technological limitations and a game that’s over a year in its lifespan.

Dual Wielding is simply a sandbox nightmare. Why anyone would go for it beyond the gimmick of holding two guns at the same time is beyond me. Either you have weapons be okay on it’s own, and blatantly OP when Dual Wielded, or a weapon becomes useless unless it’s dual wielded.

Playable Elites would require them to be modeled for multiplayer usage, which is a lot of effort for a game that is over a year in its lifespan.

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> I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> please add in the comments what else should be added

Don’t think offline modes or split-screen will ever happen or playable elites in H5 but you’re more likely to see skins since there easier to make, I guess assassinations too but I doubt we’d get a skin editor. Also be nice if they removed Flinch and redesigned Forge to be user friendly and actually removed kill boundaries in maps and replace them with physical boundaries.

So make the game like halo 3.

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> > I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> > please add in the comments what else should be added
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> Offline-anything is straight up impossible at this point due to technological limitations and a game that’s over a year in its lifespan.
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> Dual Wielding is simply a sandbox nightmare. Why anyone would go for it beyond the gimmick of holding two guns at the same time is beyond me. Either you have weapons be okay on it’s own, and blatantly OP when Dual Wielded, or a weapon becomes useless unless it’s dual wielded.
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> Playable Elites would require them to be modeled for multiplayer usage, which is a lot of effort for a game that is over a year in its lifespan.

That’s an “either or” fallacy to believe that it is either not there and balanced, or in and unbalanced.

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> > 2533274871454681;1:
> > I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> > please add in the comments what else should be added
>
> Don’t think offline modes or split-screen will ever happen or playable elites in H5 but you’re more likely to see skins since there easier to make, I guess assassinations too but I doubt we’d get a skin editor. Also be nice if they removed Flinch and redesigned Forge to be user friendly and actually removed kill boundaries in maps and replace them with physical boundaries.

lol I used to disagree with you that flinch wasn’t a thing, but now I see that it is. It doesn’t move your reticle, but it shakes your screen and the fact that you can now see the yellow-ness of the bullets doesn’t help.

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> > All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR.
> > Bayonet assassinations.
> > Armour skin editor.
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> What he said. Everything else isn’t happening either for technological reasons or simply for thought of lack of use.

The assassinations and black skins shouldn’t be a problem.

I’m not sure not about the editor. Someone said that this kind of thing would be very difficult to do. :confused:

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> So make the game like halo 3.

If they copy paste halo 3, I’ll dislike it. (Just look at the new star wars movie, it’s pretty much A New Hope copy paste.)

If they make a successer on the Halo 3 formula, than that will be the game I like.

What I want is custom games, firefight. We control what AI spawns, what weapons they have and when / where they spawn. Somewhat like Reach, but more specifics / placement options (instead of random default waves) etc.

So I could make a Spartan Ops mission, or firefight (spawn in, customize how many lives you get, what you have to kill or do (capture flag from crazy enemy base, for example).

I think the community would have a blast making challenges for each other. Could work at all different skill levels.

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> > > 2533274871454681;1:
> > > I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> > > please add in the comments what else should be added
> >
> > Offline-anything is straight up impossible at this point due to technological limitations and a game that’s over a year in its lifespan.
> >
> > Dual Wielding is simply a sandbox nightmare. Why anyone would go for it beyond the gimmick of holding two guns at the same time is beyond me. Either you have weapons be okay on it’s own, and blatantly OP when Dual Wielded, or a weapon becomes useless unless it’s dual wielded.
> >
> > Playable Elites would require them to be modeled for multiplayer usage, which is a lot of effort for a game that is over a year in its lifespan.
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> That’s an “either or” fallacy to believe that it is either not there and balanced, or in and unbalanced.

A sandbox can be unbalanced and not have Dual-Wielding. But it’s very difficult for Halo’s sandbox to have Dual Wielding and not be unbalanced.

It’s pretty clear to see that at best we’d have to change the sandbox just to accommodate for Dual Wielding, and Halo 2 & 3 fell for both of those examples above.

Halo 2 had Needlers, something that worked well enough on its own (had intense tracking but that was every weapon), and then blatantly overpowered when you had two of them. That’s why that was scrapped in Halo 3.

Halo 3 had the Mauler, functioned as a Shotgun when Dual Wielded, but was completely incapable of one shotting people on it’s own, requiring you to melee afterwards.

Each “Dual-Wieldable” weapon had to be balanced in a way where it’s okay on it’s own, but somehow still okay when you double the damage, which in turn halves the time to kill. An SMG that’s Dual Wielded would have a TTK of half a second. That’s faster than the CE Pistol in Halo CE.

There’s a reason why we never went back to Dual Wielding, the amount of fine-tuning needed to make it work is not worth the benefit. You’re better off putting a picture of a second gun on your screen and pretending it’s there.

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> > > I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> > > please add in the comments what else should be added
> >
> > Offline-anything is straight up impossible at this point due to technological limitations and a game that’s over a year in its lifespan.
> >
> > Dual Wielding is simply a sandbox nightmare. Why anyone would go for it beyond the gimmick of holding two guns at the same time is beyond me. Either you have weapons be okay on it’s own, and blatantly OP when Dual Wielded, or a weapon becomes useless unless it’s dual wielded.
> >
> > Playable Elites would require them to be modeled for multiplayer usage, which is a lot of effort for a game that is over a year in its lifespan.
>
> That’s an “either or” fallacy to believe that it is either not there and balanced, or in and unbalanced.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes… Sorry, I had to

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> I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> please add in the comments what else should be added

Did I just time travel back to the forums in 2015?

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> > > 2533274833081329;7:
> > > > 2533274871454681;1:
> > > > I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> > > > please add in the comments what else should be added
> > >
> > > Offline-anything is straight up impossible at this point due to technological limitations and a game that’s over a year in its lifespan.
> > >
> > > Dual Wielding is simply a sandbox nightmare. Why anyone would go for it beyond the gimmick of holding two guns at the same time is beyond me. Either you have weapons be okay on it’s own, and blatantly OP when Dual Wielded, or a weapon becomes useless unless it’s dual wielded.
> > >
> > > Playable Elites would require them to be modeled for multiplayer usage, which is a lot of effort for a game that is over a year in its lifespan.
> >
> > That’s an “either or” fallacy to believe that it is either not there and balanced, or in and unbalanced.
>
> Only a Sith deals in absolutes… Sorry, I had to

“Your arrogance blinds you…”

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> > > 2533274871454681;1:
> > > I hope to have an Offline Custom games, Offline Force, Split Screen and bring back Duel Wielding, Playable Elites, System Link usage even for offline use for campaign and Custom games offline, All black skins for the AR, SMG, BR and DMR, Bayonet assassinations, Armour skin editor.
> > > please add in the comments what else should be added
> >
> > Don’t think offline modes or split-screen will ever happen or playable elites in H5 but you’re more likely to see skins since there easier to make, I guess assassinations too but I doubt we’d get a skin editor. Also be nice if they removed Flinch and redesigned Forge to be user friendly and actually removed kill boundaries in maps and replace them with physical boundaries.
>
> lol I used to disagree with you that flinch wasn’t a thing, but now I see that it is. It doesn’t move your reticle, but it shakes your screen and the fact that you can now see the yellow-ness of the bullets doesn’t help.

Yep flinch is pretty irritating, it’s part of the reason why I don’t play competitively in H5, mostly tolerate it in BTB, Warzone Firefight.

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> It’d be cool, but you know it’s not possible, right?

Offline Custom Games and Forge is very possible. Gamecheat13 got it up and running perfectly in 10 to 15 minutes. If he can do it, 343 should be able to do it too.