In easy terms, smart scope is that your gun stays in the same place and you can zoom in while in ads the gun comes to the middle of the screen so you can zoom in
I honestly dislike the ADS system of Halo 5 because it forced the reticle to be centered on the screen rather than low like it was in previous titles. Which REALLY annoyed me because Halo 5 added Thruster mobility, Ground Pound, and Clambering; which added another level to the verticality of Halo’s combat.
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The irony is the fact that with a lowered reticle, you can see more of what lies above you and less of your screen is taken up by the ground while you aim down-range.
So because they wanted you to get this cool ADS ability with all guns, they goofed up how the reticle placement was and results in you being less aware of your surroundings while also providing every player with more mobility options as a given.
Hard disagree with this one. Ads helped me focus better because that’s how you use a gun in real life. I don’t get the “it covered up the screen” argument. Would someone say that in real life while trying to shoot? It’s also a Halo game. You never needed to zoom in. It only gave you more RRR. I really don’t like the half aim that the sidekick has. If anything I would prefer the weapons to have the scope the camando has where it completely zooms in like the br.
Either way there should be weapons with ads added to the game. It shouldn’t be all the guns. But having a choice isn’t a bad thing. In halo 5 there was a choice. There were some with classic. Some with hybrid and some with ads.
Ah, got it. Isn’t this system sort of somewhere in between?
Personally I love it in this game, and would love to see it taken further. Specifically I would love to see something like an ADS animation for the Commando and BR, I found it kind of strange to just go straight into scope on them without any zooming-in type animation like what we see on the AR and pistol etc.
It’s a video game and Halo has been established to not use cringe ADS. Scopes for precision weapons only and nothing else is the best. Go play COD or BF if you want a fancy realistic ADS animation.
Why compromise on something the community doesn’t want. Veteran Halo players have no want for a stupid animation when they simply want to get a better look at the enemy, Halo never needed ADS and it’s inclusion in H5 was simply to appease the fans of other franchises.
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Clearly the community wants it, there are complaints but plenty of people are in favor of it. Make a poll if you want to find out what the community wants. Just because something isn’t popular in your circle doesn’t mean that the community hates it.
And don’t tell me what “veteran halo players” want, not everyone has the same opinion as you. Do you realize that you’re not the only person on this forum who’s been playing since 01?
I’ma veteran player and I want ads. This stereotype needs to die
Obviously, it’s subjective. But, I would ask, do you want ADS on every weapon? If not, then you likely want it limited.
I played a ton of COD:MW2 and even Gears back in the day during Halo 3. It was a different experience, but I don’t think I ever thought about wishing Halo had ADS 
. I believe I instead wished on those games to have some of what Halo had.
Regardless, my observation from the teambeyond community, which makes up a large portion of the more MLG type players, is that they have criticized many aspects of Halo 5, including ADS especially with the BR.
I don’t think anyone enjoyed the Halo 5 BR.
In my opinion, though, is that I don’t even like half-ADS where the gun is still shown. This is because it forces the zoom to be very limited. The Sidekick, or Pistol alternative, should have a zoom with decent range. Even Halo 3, for weapons with no zoom, which was most of them, there was a scope… and you could use that scope for more accuracy (like with M6G) even when you had no reticule with it. Hilariously, I found on occasion that the no-reticule scope in Halo 3 to be more beneficial than the Halo 5 and Infinite scopes.
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I think I stated this above.
Halo 5 had all 3 options. It had classic aim, ADS and that half aim thing. This is what I want for a Halo game. Choices. More choices don’t hurt.
Yes the Halo 5 BR wasn’t good but it wasn’t because of ADS. It was because of the cadence of the shots.
Either way we got the Halo 2 br in the game anyways.
On top of that Halo 5 has a weapon glitch where you can get all types of scopes which again furthers the options. Not limits it.
I don’t like the half aim. I either want full classic aim or ADS. Or nothing at all like the heat wave. I despise the sidekick aim in. I want to reach through the screen and force my spartan to put it in the middle
That’s why it was lambasted by many members of the community and was removed by 343 in Infinite?
The time you start playing Halo means nothing if you don’t understand Halo, wanting ADS tells me you don’t understand Halo’s roots.
Ohh you mean the small minority that never played Halo 5 to begin with? There’s only a few I seen on here that actually played the game and disliked ADS. Everyone else compared it to call of duty and then went to say that the ablities we’re too. These people didn’t play halo 5. They simply looked at from the outside. Even some of the 343 defenders here didn’t even play much of Halo 5 because they never gave it a chance
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Maybe they would have played it if it was a proper true Halo game and not some stupid trendy hybrid shooter. Halo 5 was uninspired and fans of old had already been burned by Reach and 4, 5 could have corrected 4’s mistakes but instead doubled down on the trend following and reinvented the wheel for a third time.
It’s not a trendy hybrid shooter. Just because advanced ware exsisted doesn’t mean halo 5 wasn’t inspired. If anything Halo 5 is the most inspired halo because it takes stuff straight from the books. The gameplay of Halo 5 is exactly how Spartans fight and you can see it in the first cutscene with fire team osiris.
It actually was a true halo game. A true halo game has equal starts across the board. Yes that means no equipment to ruin the balance.
They didn’t double down on Halo 4. Halo 4 had loadouts. They got rid of that. Same with the weapon drops. They also balanced the sprint this time around unlike Halo 4s.
If anything Halo infinite is the most uninsipred halo because it takes things like the grapple hook which was popularized by other games. Same with no collison. Same thing with the battle pass. And the store and the seasons. Halo infinite is literally following the trends to the T.
Halo 5 on the other hand had no such things. And on top of that no other game. NO OTHER GAME. Has the gameplay halo 5 has.
Halo infinite on the other hand has Sprint,slide and clamber. Something most modern shooters settled with. They literally copied the formula from other games.
Your entire argument is immediately discredited, if we follow the book lore then the AR would deal no damage to a spartan thanks to their armor and the player would be able to do backflips in midair. Lore is a childish excuse for bad mechanics.
Yet it does not play like a Halo game in any regard, just having even starts meaning nothing, Quake and Unreal have even starts yet they aren’t Halo.
Doubled down on following trends. Loadouts returned in warzone and sprint still being in the game is following trends.
I never said Infinite was a good game.
Too bad the gameplay isn’t Halo.
And the game has lost much interest due to this.
Ok so why are we fighting with Spartans then if lore doesn’t matter? Why do Spartans have shields if lore doesn’t matter? Why are they even called Spartans if lore doesn’t matter?
Lore matters. A lot. And halo 5 went the extra mile to make it exactly like the books. Which is a good thing. Not a bad thing. I want to have fun. Not play a limited game because people are so stuck in the past. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see a classic Halo game again one day but Halo 5 was the evolution of FPS. No fps comes close to what Halo 5 is no matter if you look at it as a non Halo or not.
Having equal starts is everything. Once it has equal starts then we can have a conversation about the mechanics. If it doesn’t have equal starts then it isn’t halo. Sure you can disagree with the mechanics but equal starts is definitely a huge factor into wether or not it’s a Halo game.
Exactly only in warzone. Not the rest of the game. I liked the loadouts in warzone. You had the freedom to choose how you wanted to play and it was a far better system then halo 4. And yes Sprint itself I guess is a trend but Halo 5 is the only Halo to balance it properly. The no shield Regen feature is crucial and it’s the only reason why I even liked Sprint in halo 5 to begin with. Without it I don’t like Sprint. If anything I would replace sprint with a default thruster pack in halo infinite.
Well at least we agree infinite isnt. Good. And sure you can call Halo 5 non Halo but it is Halo from a lore standpoint. It is Halo when it comes to equal starts. It is Halo with the good forge it had. Sad to see that we went backwards. Halo should be cooler. Not stale and overplayed like infinite is. This is why 343 can’t innovative because it’s chained to the shackles of the Halo name.
This may be a surprise to you, but the overwhelming majority of players don’t actually care about lore, they care about the game being good.
And it wasn’t fun or how people wanted Halo to be. I don’t play Halo to pretend I’m in some shotty 20$ book, I play Halo for the gameplay style established in CE-3.
You said equal starts as your only point, clarify next time. But even with equal starts Halo 5 isn’t Halo.
Compromise isn’t a solution, only a bandaid.
343 was made for the sole purpose of making Halo, that is their only job and they suck at it.
Ok so then where is classic Halo? Oops. Never ganna happen again.
I spoke with a couple of high profile forgers and community people in the past on Halo 5 and the consensus was that 343 WILL NEVER GET RID OF SPRINT. sucks I know. But you can see it in the landscape today. The same YouTubers that complained about Sprint in the past are not doing so with this game anymore because they know 343 will never change it
So if Sprint were to stay then it needs to be like Halo 5 or not at all
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That’s fine, Halo will never rise above other shooters ever again and I’m fine with that.
I know this, is it why I don’t ever support 343 on any of their ventures.
Or I can just not play
I recently played Halo 2 and realized why I fell in love with it. It’s because the maps were actually the proper size. You never needed Sprint. Just proper map design. The game also felt fast because of this.
The reason why I like Halo 5 is because the maps were actually built around the thruster pack. Not Sprint. That’s why maps like “the rig” exsist.
When forge comes out I’m going to cut all the maps in half and build the whole map within that half. I’ll then remove Sprint and prove that Sprint was never needed
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