I’ve played all the other Halo games and just picked up Halo 5 today. I gotta say… the story of Halo 5 is amazing. My favorite so far. Still got more to go before I finish(trying to get all the skulls as I go, which is harder than i thought haha).
The campaign is amazing I agree!
However, while I won’t spoil anything, prepare for the ending to make you go “huh?”
is it true halo 6 is suppose to be the last?
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I doubt it will be
While H5 story isn’t the best I still say it gets more hate than it deserves.
I will agree gameplay wise as I like that they try to do the fireteams but story was meh.
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Not as long as they’re making money. And Halo 5 made some serious bank. (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as many millions as Halo 3, but millions nonetheless). Plus at this point in Halo 4’s lifespan, that game was dead. Halo 5 is still going relatively strong (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as strong as Halo 3 was after 2 years, but strong nonetheless). I think 343 is doing is a pretty good job learning and bringing back the competitive elements of Halo was a good move. Halo 6 is their 3rd game, so maybe that’ll be their Halo 3. lol, look, there’s never going to be another Halo 3, people. But for realsies: with 2 games under their belt, I’m really looking forward to Halo 6, but not impatiently as I’m still thoroughly enjoying Halo 5.
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> Not as long as they’re making money. And Halo 5 made some serious bank. (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as many millions as Halo 3, but millions nonetheless). Plus at this point in Halo 4’s lifespan, that game was dead. Halo 5 is still going relatively strong (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as strong as Halo 3 was after 2 years, but strong nonetheless). I think 343 is doing is a pretty good job learning and bringing back the competitive elements of Halo was a good move. Halo 6 is their 3rd game, so maybe that’ll be their Halo 3. lol, look, there’s never going to be another Halo 3, people. But for realsies: with 2 games under their belt, I’m really looking forward to Halo 6, but not impatiently as I’m still thoroughly enjoying Halo 5.
Agreed! Halo 5 had a strong campaign with a couple of rather funky things in the writing that brought down the ultimate quality. They’ve written themselves into a hole with The Problem (certain out-of-character actions. Y’all know what I’m talking about.), but there are creative ways they could explain it and make it into less of a blunder.
Also, the gameplay overall and multiplayer is AWESOME. So I think H5 has a good amount of life left in it.
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> Not as long as they’re making money. And Halo 5 made some serious bank. (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as many millions as Halo 3, but millions nonetheless). Plus at this point in Halo 4’s lifespan, that game was dead. Halo 5 is still going relatively strong (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as strong as Halo 3 was after 2 years, but strong nonetheless). I think 343 is doing is a pretty good job learning and bringing back the competitive elements of Halo was a good move. Halo 6 is their 3rd game, so maybe that’ll be their Halo 3. lol, look, there’s never going to be another Halo 3, people. But for realsies: with 2 games under their belt, I’m really looking forward to Halo 6, but not impatiently as I’m still thoroughly enjoying Halo 5.
the halo 3 to most was halo 2 to me o.0
Just finished the story… you’re right… I was like “Huh?”
What exactly do you find amazing about the story? No condemnation, but I find it has far too many problems to be classified as amazing. The connections with previous games is tenuous at best, the events of Spartan Ops are only mentioned vaguely in a piece of Intel and have no relevance unless you read Halo: Escalation. Furthermore, Halo 5 destroyed years of narrative development by shoving aside the various stories and plots going on since the end of Halo 4 in the books, comics, and other material. Cortana’s survival as indicated in Halo 5 contradicts what has been said here on Genesis’ Halo Universe article and in the comic short “Dominion Splinter.” We really don’t even know why Cortana has gone evil, but either way it is one of the most egregious examples of character assassination I’ve seen in a franchise. Osiris are a good team, but they hardly get the chance to shine and Blue Team is cast aside as an afterthought. Chief has regressed as far as his character development is concerned. And the Warden Eternal is just fundamentally flawed from a narrative and gameplay perspective, he’s not interesting, he just shows up, and his boss fights are a chore. The Created are a particularly uninspired new faction thrust into the setting that received no prior buildup.
I just don’t see the appeal nor do I think it gets more hate than it deserves.
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> What exactly do you find amazing about the story? No condemnation, but I find it has far too many problems to be classified as amazing. The connections with previous games is tenuous at best, the events of Spartan Ops are only mentioned vaguely in a piece of Intel and have no relevance unless you read Halo: Escalation. Furthermore, Halo 5 destroyed years of narrative development by shoving aside the various stories and plots going on since the end of Halo 4 in the books, comics, and other material. Cortana’s survival as indicated in Halo 5 contradicts what has been said here on Genesis’ Halo Universe article and in the comic short “Dominion Splinter.” We really don’t even know why Cortana has gone evil, but either way it is one of the most egregious examples of character assassination I’ve seen in a franchise. Osiris are a good team, but they hardly get the chance to shine and Blue Team is cast aside as an afterthought. Chief has regressed as far as his character development is concerned. And the Warden Eternal is just fundamentally flawed from a narrative and gameplay perspective, he’s not interesting, he just shows up, and his boss fights are a chore. The Created are a particularly uninspired new faction thrust into the setting that received no prior buildup.
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> I just don’t see the appeal nor do I think it gets more hate than it deserves.
You stole the words right out of my mouth.
None of what Halo 5 brought to the table is any bit interesting to me, to the point where I really have no interest in the future of Halo from a story perspective. I don’t give a damn about the “Created” or evil Cortana, and even if Halo 6’s story is told in a good way, the underlining plot is bad. Everything felt lazy and uninspired, just as though 343i and Microsoft freaked out at the criticism following Halo 4 and decided to pull a 180 on everything. The Didact had the potential to be a really interesting villain, but what did they do? In a comic, they decide to show that he’s alive, but then kill him off again. And we never hear of him again.
Anybody who enjoys Halo 5’s campaign or believes that it gets more hate than it deserves are fully entitled to that opinion, and I respect that. But, to me, Halo 5’s story represents a critical low from which the franchise most likely can’t bounce back. And I’m not sure that 343i even understands what we want. They told us all future Halo stories will be simple, like Halo Wars 2. Fans don’t want a simple story, we want a story that’s deep and meaningful. The problem with Halo 4 and Halo 5 wasn’t that they weren’t simple enough, it’s that they relied way too much on the assumption that everybody had read all of the books/watched the mini-series, and lacked any sort of explanation on what was going on. And, in the case of Halo 5, it just threw out any sort of development that was made in the previous games.
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> Not as long as they’re making money. And Halo 5 made some serious bank. (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as many millions as Halo 3, but millions nonetheless). Plus at this point in Halo 4’s lifespan, that game was dead. Halo 5 is still going relatively strong (yeah, yeah, yeah, not as strong as Halo 3 was after 2 years, but strong nonetheless). I think 343 is doing is a pretty good job learning and bringing back the competitive elements of Halo was a good move. Halo 6 is their 3rd game, so maybe that’ll be their Halo 3. lol, look, there’s never going to be another Halo 3, people. But for realsies: with 2 games under their belt, I’m really looking forward to Halo 6, but not impatiently as I’m still thoroughly enjoying Halo 5.
Halo 3 made more money via game copies, but Halo 5 has made more money overall due to in-game purchases.
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No, the 343 series went from being a trilogy to being a saga, so it is not limited by three.
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> Halo 3 made more money via game copies, but Halo 5 has made more money overall due to in-game purchases.
At this point, I’m sure it is, but I was referring to the 2 month sales … you know, I thought I was making it pretty clear I didn’t need the Halo 3-defense league to come in here and clarify that Halo 3 is untouchable & sacred. And I know suggesting that anything less would be an affront and an insult to your precious childhoods, so I ensured that I included that everything Halo 5 did, Halo 3 did better, but no. Wasn’t good enough, was it? lol 
(I’m kidding, we all know how microtransactions are a big and [horrible] part of games nowadays … just be thankful they weren’t around ten years ago)
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Holy grunt-nuggets, you managed to bait Cobra out of hiding.
That said, I totally agree with Halsey on this.
Just look up Haruspis.Edit: It seems to me that a lot of people blame Halo 5’s lackluster story on the criticism that levelled at Halo 4, but I think it was a little more mundane than that.
I think that Halo 5 was meant to be the biggest and best Halo yet, with an absolutely massive campaign, but game development woes such as mismanagement and time constraints ultimately took their toll.
It’s just a theory but based on the rumours of an open-world Halo prior to release (Imagine Mass Effect without conversation trees) and the fact that there are two beautifully crafted, yet empty feeling weapons down missions really leads me to think that Halo 5 bwas meant to be a completely different game, but the Created were shovelled in and the existing levels repurposed when the deadlines started looking considerably more real.
It’s just a theory, and if it was something like that, it would be suicide for 343 to admit it, so then you have people like Frank O’Connor and Brian Reed fiercely defending the weakest story in the franchise, which just adds to my feeling that something went very wrong.
If I’m somehow right (which is unlikely at best), then I wouldn’t actually be very happy about it, because the game that 343 were promising (even if it wasn’t open-world) would have been a real killer of a title.
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> > What exactly do you find amazing about the story? No condemnation, but I find it has far too many problems to be classified as amazing. The connections with previous games is tenuous at best, the events of Spartan Ops are only mentioned vaguely in a piece of Intel and have no relevance unless you read Halo: Escalation. Furthermore, Halo 5 destroyed years of narrative development by shoving aside the various stories and plots going on since the end of Halo 4 in the books, comics, and other material. Cortana’s survival as indicated in Halo 5 contradicts what has been said here on Genesis’ Halo Universe article and in the comic short “Dominion Splinter.” We really don’t even know why Cortana has gone evil, but either way it is one of the most egregious examples of character assassination I’ve seen in a franchise. Osiris are a good team, but they hardly get the chance to shine and Blue Team is cast aside as an afterthought. Chief has regressed as far as his character development is concerned. And the Warden Eternal is just fundamentally flawed from a narrative and gameplay perspective, he’s not interesting, he just shows up, and his boss fights are a chore. The Created are a particularly uninspired new faction thrust into the setting that received no prior buildup.
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> You stole the words right out of my mouth.
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> None of what Halo 5 brought to the table is any bit interesting to me, to the point where I really have no interest in the future of Halo from a story perspective. I don’t give a damn about the “Created” or evil Cortana, and even if Halo 6’s story is told in a good way, the underlining plot is bad. Everything felt lazy and uninspired, just as though 343i and Microsoft freaked out at the criticism following Halo 4 and decided to pull a 180 on everything. The Didact had the potential to be a really interesting villain, but what did they do? In a comic, they decide to show that he’s alive, but then kill him off again. And we never hear of him again.
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> Anybody who enjoys Halo 5’s campaign or believes that it gets more hate than it deserves are fully entitled to that opinion, and I respect that. But, to me, Halo 5’s story represents a critical low from which the franchise most likely can’t bounce back. And I’m not sure that 343i even understands what we want. They told us all future Halo stories will be simple, like Halo Wars 2. Fans don’t want a simple story, we want a story that’s deep and meaningful. The problem with Halo 4 and Halo 5 wasn’t that they weren’t simple enough, it’s that they relied way too much on the assumption that everybody had read all of the books/watched the mini-series, and lacked any sort of explanation on what was going on. And, in the case of Halo 5, it just threw out any sort of development that was made in the previous games.
Everything they said.
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> > Halo 3 made more money via game copies, but Halo 5 has made more money overall due to in-game purchases.
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> At this point, I’m sure it is, but I was referring to the 2 month sales … you know, I thought I was making it pretty clear I didn’t need the Halo 3-defense league to come in here and clarify that Halo 3 is untouchable & sacred. And I know suggesting that anything less would be an affront and an insult to your precious childhoods, so I ensured that I included that everything Halo 5 did, Halo 3 did better, but no. Wasn’t good enough, was it? lol 
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> (I’m kidding, we all know how microtransactions are a big and [horrible] part of games nowadays … just be thankful they weren’t around ten years ago)
I actually am not a Halo 3 defender; it is actually one of my least favorite games in the series. I much prefer Halo 5, which right now is my second favorite game behind Halo Wars 2.
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> > At this point, I’m sure it is, but I was referring to the 2 month sales … you know, I thought I was making it pretty clear I didn’t need the Halo 3-defense league to come in here and clarify that Halo 3 is untouchable & sacred. And I know suggesting that anything less would be an affront and an insult to your precious childhoods, so I ensured that I included that everything Halo 5 did, Halo 3 did better, but no. Wasn’t good enough, was it? lol 
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> I actually am not a Halo 3 defender; it is actually one of my least favorite games in the series. I much prefer Halo 5, which right now is my second favorite game behind Halo Wars 2.
It doesn’t matter … I was being incredibly sarcastic … probably didn’t come across that way in writing, but I was mocking both myself and the Halo 3 diehards. I mean, I did assume you were knocking REQ sales, but that would be a legitimate criticism, if you ask me.
Ya I actually do love it too. Apparently because I’m not some critic who is so nitpicky and such. And I think more people needs to just not look at every single tiny details and just play/enjoy Halo.