how fast did the pistol shoot ? 100 rpm, 150 rpm or 200 rpm ?
I donât remember? It wasnât made apparent in the beta nor in release, nor in any Halo game. Youâd have to look it up externally or test it yourself. And Iâm not even willing to look it up to play your little quizlet.
And yeah, I could just look that information up.
you didnt play it⌠if you did you would have instantly said it was just like the âgunfighterâ pistol in both damage and speed.
From that alone, youâre convinced that I didnât play the beta??
Dude, it was seven years ago, and it only lasted three weeks.
its hard to forget when that was a starting weapons for the entire beta.
SEVEN YEARS AGO.
Why would I remember such a small detail that literally doesnât matter anymore?
zzzâŚ
we are done here 20 characters.
Youâre the one who doesnât even know the difference between an arcade shooter and an arena shooter.
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arcade shooter focus on character gameplay like arcade racers its gameplay is boosted to have fun as a focus an area shooter relies on the map your character is in and is typically balanced with competition as a focus
these definitions have alot of breathing room and are best applied to individual games id say titanfall 2 is an arcade shooter
your the one that needs the last word⌠shame you have nothing of value to say.
Youâre telling me that I didnât play the beta because I donât completely agree with you. You have no reason to antagonize me over this because I also like the Halo 5 beta, and I wish Halo were more like it going forward.
But whether I played the beta or not doesnât change the fact that youâre wholly misinterpreting what an arcade shooter is and what an arena shooter is. Every Halo fits the bill of an arena shooter.
halo wars dosentâŚ
20 characters.
Obviously, Iâm not referring to the RTS games, come on.
The core gameplay did not drastically change in between the December 2014 beta and October 2015 retail. Idk what kind of Mandela Effect youâre experiencing. Spartan abilities, movement, etc was nigh unchanged and the only notable thing that comes to mind is the victory animation showcasing the winning team and team colors being brightened because Blue team got complaints of blending in too well
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/mr-taco47/video/151304331
Graphics and sounds was down graded
Abilities/
sholder charge changed to only 1 shot on a back hit
Ground pounds charge time was increase and damage/range was halfed
Sprint went from 2x to 1.5x
Slide changed to have less boost
Glide time was also halfed
Weapons/
BR changed to do less damage and fire slower
Pistol went from 200rpm to 140rpm
Dmr less range
Assult rifle less body damage
SMG halfed health damage
Sniper and shotgun aim assist and handling nerf
Grenada damage/area halfed
Hydrip slower lock on time and less damage
Sword lunge halfed
All weapon aim assist was tuned
Opinion: the only good changes I liked was the sheild sounds being made lower and quiter and the flinch being toned down other then that you can clearly see this have is watered down
Its half of what it should be.
After reading all of your suggested changes, all I have to say isâŚyouâre clearly in the wrong franchise. A large amount of your suggestions sound like mechanics that already exist in other franchises (almost all of your ability changes were clearly ripped straight from Destiny 2 and CoD), and the weapon tuning suggestions would ruin the game as it would turn it into practically a carbon copy of Call of Duty Modern Warfare in terms of ttks and mechanical issues, which is not all what Halo is supposed to be.
Also, youâve repeatedly used the rather weak defense of bringing up obscure details from Halo 5âs beta that no one is going to remember unless they ONLY played at beta and then NEVER played the game again afterwards. A better defense would be actually explaining the logic behind your points rather than looking like a childish moron who canât take constructive criticism properly.
You also use RTS games as an example in a debate regarding ARENA FPSâs. You might as well start bringing Starcraft into the conversation with that type of logic.
I know that if you even do respond all youâre going to spout is more childish nonsense, so i wouldnât even bother if i were you, as in the end youâll only make yourself look even more illegitimate.
The changings in talking about are personal taste
The beta was completely different from the current game
I bring up halo wars as an example that halo can be what ever style game it wants to be it could for an exaplme be a flight sim
If the game resembled my idea for it call of duty ttk would be 2x faster then it
Go ahead and use more personal attacks it just shows what you actually care about
Iâd rather talk about how to improve the game so it can step out of halo 3s shadow
Dont bother responding because you have nothing of value to add to this conversation
That entire comment is very hypocritical of you. I canât fix your blindness, so have fun crashing.
Donât bother responding because you have nothing of value to add to these forums.
You just ruined your own argument. To put in simple terms so you can comprehend, the reason the beta was a completely different game was because it was clearly LESS REFINED. Any player with common sense can deduce that. The beta had a ton of problems, hence the terrible launch of the game, and 343 worked those problems out over the few years following the betaâs release.
Halo has always had a very specific and VERY SUCCESSFUL identity as a First Person Arena shooter. Anytime it has differed from that identity it has had a significant reduction in player popularity (Halo Wars 2 is a great example of why changing the identity doesnât work in the long run).
You said you wanted to increase weapon handling and ttk scaling, which would by all logical accounts bring it closer to CoD ttks, not farther away (canât do basic math huh?).
You started with the personal attacks towards another guy so thanks for also clarifying to everyone just how much of a hypocrite you truly are.
Additionally, Halo 5 MP is a different beast to Halo 3, so thereâs no shadow outside of the obvious factor that the campaign was awful (too late to change that).
All of your direct responses to others have been personal attacks on individual experience and unnecessary dialogue that contributes nothing, so: âDonât bother responding because you have nothing of value to add to this conversation.â
zzzz⌠ow your done ? k bye.