The multiplayer is excellent. The campaign was not. Lots of bad writing in the campaign.
1.Locke and Osiris are not developed at all. I don’t care about them.
***2. Ads for Halo 5 were extremely misleading. Where is ONI? Where is the whole “everything you compromised, was it worth it?”
***3. Where is the wise intelligent arbiter guiding Locke Halo: The Master Chief Collection E3 Trailer - YouTube Instead we get an angry arbiter with nothing wise or interesting to say. Even the H2A H5 cutscenes were excellent ( However I really liked the ancient sanghelli stuff. ex: words are strongest before the sword is drawn from H5)
- The most cringe scene of Halo 5. Buck: “I think Tanaka has something to say” Tanaka with awkward smile: “blah blah cheesy uninspiring speech about covenant fools”
***5. I like the idea of team osiris but 343 did not make a story around them. It was ALL about blue team and cortana. Osiris was just following Blue team. NOT EVEN HUNTING BLUE TEAM. JUST FOLLOWING.
Blue Team mission were really well done though I think. I don’t care there were only 3. They were 3 quality missions with good story. I wish the writing on Locke missions were good but they were complete fails. However, game play wise, I did enjoy the campaign.
The purpose of this is to let 343 know to make a GOOD CAMPAIGN STORY!!! YOU MADE A GOOD ADVERTISEMENT CAMPAIGN WITH A GOOD STORY!!! DO THE SAME WITH THE GAME!!!
Just in case 343 doesn’t care about good story, just sales and publicity, then you should consider the reviews. If Halo 5 had a good story, it would have gotten 10 out of 10.
I got really burned by 343’s BS ads. Last time I believe them
For halo 6, I dont want ai teammates with me. It limits the variety of missions. You can’t have a stealth mission or “halo 3: Cortana” kind of mission. But I completely agree with your review.
To be fair master chief was not devoloped at all either until h4.
I am extremely dissapointed in the campaign & story. So much so that I now question the judgement of Frank O’Conner, Josh Holmes & Bonnie Ross. I believe they should lose all creative control over the direction of Halo, it’s games or universe from this point on.
Where were they during the development process of this campaign? How could they not question the radical and poorly implemented changes being made in H5G that go completely against the tried & true format each Halo campaign had in years past?
And if they knew, why didn’t they correct it?
I believe there are big problems at the upper level positions over at 343i HQ and they must be corrected before work begins on H6.
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> To be fair master chief was not devoloped at all either until h4.
I can agree to a certain extent, yet the overal campaign of h1-3 were all solid at worst. H 4 wasn’t bad at all just different with the emotional side to the story and imo Pro as enemies seemed a bit like bullet sponges. H5 was just weak and misleading.
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> For halo 6, I dont want ai teammates with me. It limits the variety of missions. You can’t have a stealth mission or “halo 3: Cortana” kind of mission. But I completely agree with your review.
Absolutely. The Fireteam AI added nothing and subtracted everything from the standard Halo campaign experience. They got in the way, hardly provided any help/support and are like children you have to babysit in the middle of a firefight…
Bad stuff 343i, really really bad.
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> > For halo 6, I dont want ai teammates with me. It limits the variety of missions. You can’t have a stealth mission or “halo 3: Cortana” kind of mission. But I completely agree with your review.
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> Absolutely. The Fireteam AI added nothing and subtracted everything from the standard Halo campaign experience. They got in the way, hardly provided any help/support and are like children you have to babysit in the middle of a firefight…
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> Bad stuff 343i, really really bad.
I disagree on that. The AI companions are extremely useful if you are a good player. You just have to take advantage of the get to this position function. For example, I can beat every single warden battle (legendary) with 0 deaths (with the exception of the 3 warden battle; those auto turrets cause me to die at least twice).
You have to put the AI team in a position where you can work together with the AI and double team the enemies. If you are good at multiplayer you know what I mean.
You do have to keep in mind however, that HUMANITY DOES NOT HAVE A SUFFICENT UNDERSTANDING OF AI AT THIS POINT (In the year 2016). In other words, scientifically, making good AI is beyond our understanding. So if you expect 343 to make scientific breakthroughs, and win a noble prize in biology, computer science etc and be up there with Newton and Einstein than you are expecting WAY TOO MUCH!! The AI is not going to be intelligent for a while. You are not going to find a real Cortana like AI fighting by your side!
Gameplay wise, I enjoyed the campaign. Its the writing that was disappointing. It was the misleading ads. It was the horrible treatment of team Osiris and arbiter. Arbiter was suppose to be a wise and intelligent guide to Osiris. Not a angry, grudge holding idiot. Here is what I was expecting with the arbiter!
- Halo: The Master Chief Collection E3 Trailer - YouTube
- Agent Locke & Arbiter Cinematic Cutscenes - Halo: The Master Chief Collection Halo 2: Anniversary - YouTube
The AI teammates should be like the ones in StarWars Republic Commando. Those guys grew on you, you liked them, they all had personality, and most importantly: THEY WERE REALLY HELPFUL.
And Frank O’Connor saying that blue team is dull is bull. All of the Spartan II’s had a ton of personality in the books. It just takes a good writer.
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> I disagree on that. The AI companions are extremely useful if you are a good player. You just have to take advantage of the get to this position function. For example, I can beat every single warden battle (legendary) with 0 deaths (with the exception of the 3 warden battle; those auto turrets cause me to die at least twice).
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> You have to put the AI team in a position where you can work together with the AI and double team the enemies. If you are good at multiplayer you know what I mean.
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> You do have to keep in mind however, that HUMANITY DOES NOT HAVE A SUFFICENT UNDERSTANDING OF AI AT THIS POINT (In the year 2016). In other words, scientifically, making good AI is beyond our understanding. So if you expect 343 to make scientific breakthroughs, and win a noble prize in biology, computer science etc and be up there with Newton and Einstein than you are expecting WAY TOO MUCH!! The AI is not going to be intelligent for a while. You are not going to find a real Cortana like AI fighting by your side!
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> Gameplay wise, I enjoyed the campaign. Its the writing that was disappointing. It was the misleading ads. It was the horrible treatment of team Osiris and arbiter. Arbiter was suppose to be a wise and intelligent guide to Osiris. Not a angry, grudge holding idiot. Here is what I was expecting with the arbiter!
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> 1. Halo: The Master Chief Collection E3 Trailer - YouTube
> 2. Agent Locke & Arbiter Cinematic Cutscenes - Halo: The Master Chief Collection Halo 2: Anniversary - YouTube
I think they said that they toned down the ai so they wouldn’t be doing everything. I would like it where you could choose the default, peak performance, or just not even have them at all.
I seriously get tired of everyone saying Osiris was underdeveloped. My friend was saying “Halo 1 starts with a pursued ship in the middle of nowhere, there wasn’t much development at all, what was great was the mystery.”
The ads were misleading for sure. I feel like they had to drop a lot. Like in one trailer you see Chief standing on a sand hill, Sanghelios for sure, so he probably had more missions originally.
3 and 4 aren’t really big problems.
Only 3 chief missions is what really bugs me.
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> The AI teammates should be like the ones in StarWars Republic Commando. Those guys grew on you, you liked them, they all had personality, and most importantly: THEY WERE REALLY HELPFUL.
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> And Frank O’Connor saying that blue team is dull is bull. All of the Spartan II’s had a ton of personality in the books. It just takes a good writer.
Yes, so much yes.
I thought the campaign was great.
You say Osiris had no development to them but neither did blue team. If you never read the books and are a halo fan then you’d have no idea who blue team is or why they support chief. You also say the game was more about blue team when they had much less screen time than Osiris… I just don’t see it. I agree the story is awful, the worst imho but I won’t feet to much. H4 was a pretty good campaign so I’m hoping 343 hit a slump and this won’t continue into h6. I play story first before multiplayer but most of my halo experience is in multiplayer. 343 delivered in the department of where most of my time is spent so I applied them for that. It could still be soooooo much better with more variety but it plays very fluid and has the best weapon balance of any halo game.
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> The AI teammates should be like the ones in StarWars Republic Commando. Those guys grew on you, you liked them, they all had personality, and most importantly: THEY WERE REALLY HELPFUL.
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> And Frank O’Connor saying that blue team is dull is bull. All of the Spartan II’s had a ton of personality in the books. It just takes a good writer.
Frank O’Conner also said that, if you don’t like the story of Halo 5, it means that you’re too young and don’t appreciate subtlety. At this point, I feel like he isn’t a person worth listening to at all anymore, since he clearly has no idea what he’s talking about.
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> I seriously get tired of everyone saying Osiris was underdeveloped. My friend was saying “Halo 1 starts with a pursued ship in the middle of nowhere, there wasn’t much development at all, what was great was the mystery.”
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> The ads were misleading for sure. I feel like they had to drop a lot. Like in one trailer you see Chief standing on a sand hill, Sanghelios for sure, so he probably had more missions originally.
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> 3 and 4 aren’t really big problems.
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> Only 3 chief missions is what really bugs me.
What development do they have? Who is vale? Why is she a Spartan? What are her accolades? What’s her goal? Same could be said for the rest except buck because we saw him in h3 odst. As for the team as a whole, why were they put together? Why are they specifically the ones tracking chief? None of this is really mentioned in game.
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> You say Osiris had no development to them but neither did blue team. If you never read the books and are a halo fan then you’d have no idea who blue team is or why they support chief. You also say the game was more about blue team when they had much less screen time than Osiris… I just don’t see it. I agree the story is awful, the worst imho but I won’t feet to much. H4 was a pretty good campaign so I’m hoping 343 hit a slump and this won’t continue into h6. I play story first before multiplayer but most of my halo experience is in multiplayer. 343 delivered in the department of where most of my time is spent so I applied them for that. It could still be soooooo much better with more variety but it plays very fluid and has the best weapon balance of any halo game.
We are in agreement about mulitplayer. IMO it is the best Halo multiplayer. I am just a big Halo fan and want halo 6 to be perfect. So I am hoping that 343 will make a good campaign for 6. I believe they will do a good job with multiplayer.
Osiris had more screen time, but it was just filler.
Blue teams story: Cortana wants a revolution in the galaxy, with AI in control. She trusts Chief and believes he will agree with her and join her. For this reason, Cortana calls Chief to her. Blue team, however is skeptical of cortana and cheif believes there is a legitimate reason for what she is doing, and if their is not, chief trusts cortana enough that he believes cortana will change her mind and join blue team. The warden eternal however, is not as naive and knows blue team will side against cortana. He does his best to stop blue team, going so far as even disobeying cortana to protect her. Ultimately, cortana betrays blue team and traps them in a cryptum.
Osiris’ story: They need to return blue team back to the UNSC from meridian. But blue team makes it on the guardian to genesis. Osiris needs to follow blue team so they go to sanghelios, board a guardian and get to genesis. Irrelevant filler basically. This is where the real story starts. They save blue team from the cryptum cortana trapped them in.
Basically the story is about Blue team. Osiris is garbage filler (it had potential if 343 followed the interesting story from the ad campaign).
We may have a different idea of what development is. But I think blue team did get good development without shoving it in our faces. Here is what comes to my mind.
- Haven’t seen chief press himself like this since boot camp conversation
- Chief tells blue team he will go to meridian alone. Blue team disobeys and go with him.
- We are with you all the way brother- fred and blue team
- Blue team disagrees with chief about trusting cortana. Chief does trust cortana and blue team follows anyway.
- Kelly and blue team worried about chief during message from cortana
- Linda trying to get involved between Chief and Cortana but chief holding linda and blue team back.
- Like Halsey did for me- rare point of view from chief
If you have read the books, blue team missions are even more satisfying and make sense. But I agree that books don’t count in making the campaign good.