Halo 5 returning to Halo's roots?

I think the fact that Master Chief is disguised by a cloak, and has a crack in his visor may be hinting at a downfall for humans, muting some advanced technologies, forcing Master Chief to return to his roots and get things done with a simple set of weapons, and whatever he can find lying around.

This also gives 343 a good way to test out giving us a non-loadout game-type, without not making sense chronologically, and giving them an escape route if it’s a flop: if people don’t like it without the “new” stuff, they already have Halo 6 confirmed, and can have the humans Rise again in Halo 6 depending on the acceptance of the community.

There’s a reason Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 are all better than Halo Reach and Halo 4. It’s the same reason Rock Paper Scissors is better than Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock.

Yes, the game can be balanced either way, but three is the magic number in balancing a competitive game. One side may gain the upper-hand, but it leaves the only remaining hand open for the opposing side. Which both sides know. Inherently, it always gives the players an “objective” (ex. get control of the sword room) dependent on the current game state. As soon as one side gets the upper-hand, it leaves the third hand uncontrolled, which overpowers the current upper-hand, while leaving the future upper-hand uncontrolled, and ready to be fought over.

There’s actually multiple three-hand situations in other Halo’s.

Weapons - long, short, and medium range. (ex. Sniper, Shotgun, BR)

Weapons & Equipment - 9 total - 3 sets of 3: [(Power Drain, Regenerator, Bubble Shield), (Deployable Cover, Flare, Radar Jammer), (Overshield, Active Camo, Portable Grav-Lift)}

Vehicles - Small & Fast; Slow & Powerful; Flying & exposed.

Even DUAL WIELDING - Human:Human combo, Cov:Cov combo, Human:Cov combo

Thats it, all I have to say…

Maps: Red side, Blue side, and a Center.

And when you have too many extra options, it gets to a point where one team can run the upperhand, and control the option that tops, what tops their upperhand, without having to battle for that option directly. This effectively promotes everyone to just rush the other team with anything, because it becomes too complicated to gain or keep control over anything.

Returning to the basics would make me happier than anything else related to gaming.

There are so many things that can be added to a game, outside of selectable options which create randomness, to improve it.

Every player should start out identically, and all advantages should be present for players to earn by playing BETTER than their opponents.

I purchased Halo: CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST, Halo: Reach, and Halo 4 the days they were released.
Sadly, Halo 5 will be the first Halo in which I investigate into before I purchase.

I played about 10,000 matches in Halo 1-3 and Reach (even though Reach had game-breaking mechanics), and I just couldn’t bare to play Halo 4 anymore than a couple of weeks. The game is awful and resembles nothing about what makes a Halo game great.

Remove all the random, selectable garbage, and bring Halo back into the competitive world, please.

No armour abilities, no gun pre-selection, no specializations, no packages. Get rid of this nonsense, PLEASE.

I really hope halo returns to its competitive roots

Nah, the path halo is on now is much preferred. By greatly increasing strategy and replay value with loadouts and personal ordnance, there is no reason 343 should regress. Instead they need to keep innovating halo further and make it better and better as I’m sure they will. I have offered numerous suggestions that hopefully were noted. But fear not classic fans, there will always be the game of legendary here and there and trust me I support that.

> <mark>Nah, the path halo is on now is much preferred.</mark> By greatly increasing strategy and replay value with loadouts and personal ordnance, there is no reason 343 should regress. Instead they need to keep innovating halo further and make it better and better as I’m sure they will. I have offered numerous suggestions that hopefully were noted. But fear not classic fans, there will always be the game of legendary here and there and trust me I support that.

From you?

> > <mark>Nah, the path halo is on now is much preferred.</mark> By greatly increasing strategy and replay value with loadouts and personal ordnance, there is no reason 343 should regress. Instead they need to keep innovating halo further and make it better and better as I’m sure they will. I have offered numerous suggestions that hopefully were noted. But fear not classic fans, there will always be the game of legendary here and there and trust me I support that.
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Lambo there you are I havent seen you on halo in awhile what gives.

This is certainly an interesting concept, which might actually work.

> Nah, the path halo is on now is much preferred. By greatly increasing strategy and replay value with loadouts and personal ordnance, there is no reason 343 should regress. Instead they need to keep innovating halo further and make it better and better as I’m sure they will. I have offered numerous suggestions that hopefully were noted. But fear not classic fans, there will always be the game of legendary here and there and trust me I support that.

How many times have you posted these exact same things already…

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So, do you suffer from memory loss?

Since, you have written those same things so many times that i dont even have to read your comments to know what they contain.

And no, im not here to start anything.
I just asked a question.

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I’m free to say what I want without you badgering me about it, and I don’t need to explain myself. How about that? I wanted to give this OP my 2 cents as I haven’t seen him before.

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> I’m free to say what I want without you badgering me about it, and I don’t need to explain myself. How about that? I wanted to give this OP my 2 cents.

No need to get so angry. I was just asking you how many times have you posted the exact same things you posted in your original post in this thread.

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> No need to get so angry. I was just asking you how many times have you posted the exact same things you posted in your original post in this thread.

Not angry at all. While we are here why do you always give me a hard time? Whenever I post something you are normally one of the first ones there, ready as ever to be critical.

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> > No need to get so angry. I was just asking you how many times have you posted the exact same things you posted in your original post in this thread.
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> Not angry at all. While we are here why do you always give me a hard time? Whenever I post something you are normally one of the first ones there, ready as ever to be critical.

Because this place is a forum, and i still have very, very mixed thoughts about you and your opinions.

And, besides, im not the only one here who is ‘‘giving you a hard time’’. I’m not even trying to do such a thing.

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See, it always starts like this. Sammy makes a post, and someone comments about his past posts and/or people not liking what he posted. It’s nonproductive.

Sammy has as much a right as anyone to post his opinions/ideas/suggestions. We are free to comment on the merits of his post, but there is no need to post your comments about him, what he posts, why he posts, whether he posts, how many times he posts, etc.

This thread is about Halo 5 returning to Halo’s roots. Let’s not turn this into a thread about Sammy. If you want to argue with him, please, please, do it somewhere else.

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> See, it always starts like this. Sammy makes a post, and someone comments about his past posts and/or people not liking what he posted. It’s nonproductive.
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> Sammy has as much a right as anyone to post his opinions/ideas/suggestions. We are free to comment on the merits of his post, but there is no need to post your comments about him, what he posts, why he posts, whether he posts, how many times he posts, etc.
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> This thread is about Halo 5 returning to Halo’s roots. Let’s not turn this into a thread about Sammy. If you want to argue with him, please, please, do it somewhere else.

That’s why i said i dont want to start anything here.
I was just asking a question.

Sure, i can go ahead and hide Sammy’s posts so i dont ask stupid and obvious questions in the future.

I go to sleep every night praying to God that halo returns to its roots… I’m sorry sammy but I could not disagree with you more. I love halo. I have been playing halo for 13 years. I can’t tell you how many countless hours I spent playing H1-H3, and i’m soooooo scared that H5 will be the same loadout, AA, sprint, ect. filled junk that we’ve been given in the last few years. PLEASE 343… FOR OUR SAKE. FOR OUR CHILDREN’S SAKE. FOR THE SAKE OF ALL HUMANITY…

go back to what worked.

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> Nah, the path halo is on now is much preferred. By greatly increasing strategy and replay value with loadouts and personal ordnance, there is no reason 343 should regress. Instead they need to keep innovating halo further and make it better and better as I’m sure they will. I have offered numerous suggestions that hopefully were noted. But fear not classic fans, there will always be the game of legendary here and there and trust me I support that.

Can you explain me how the new Halo path is preferred? Because the last time I saw, Halo 4 population dropped cosiderably faster than Halo 3 or even Reach, a game that was heavily criticized by hardcore Halo fans (including me). I’m still trying to figure out how Halo 4 is “a success” to you, when clearly people have infinites complains about it (and 343i in particular).

Now on topic: Halo 5 MUSTreturn to its roots of course. 343i has done so more things to the universe in two years than Bungie in their 10 years. They commited a huge mistake, now it’s time to reverse their own image by apologizing to fans and making a proper Arena-based Halo game.

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