Please 343 make team doubles a permanent playlist in Halo 5. It is very disappointing how it went from a featured playlist to just appearing on a weekly basis. I like what you guys are doing with the game, main concern is just the playlist choices.
Well as long as you stay vocal when Halo 5 comes out, this shouldn’t be a problem. After The Master Chief Collection added in the ranking system, I’m sure 343 is looking to help promote competitive gameplay again. So they’ve heard the feedback and will probably through in a Doubles if the community wants it!
I’d like to get these playlists:
slayer -> 4v4 slayer
big team battle -> 8v8 slayer
team objective -> 4v4 objective
big team objective -> 8v8 objective
snipers -> 4v4 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
big team snipers -> 8v8 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
swat -> 4v4 swat
flood -> 9 humans v 3 floods (shotguns and pistols)
action sack -> 4v4/8v8
race -> 8 players
multi-team -> 4 teams (3 players each team)
something like “competitive” -> 4v4 [no spartan abilities -> for those who doesn’t like them ( basic Halo core gameplay like Halo 2-3 )]
rumble pit -> ffa 8 players
grifball -> 4v4
firefight -> 5 players (I’d love to get firefight back!)
spartan ops -> 5 Players
team doubles -> 2v2
I think that’s all, tell me if I forgot something 
PS
-no all-snipers in btb, no objectives in non-objectives playlists
-it would be awesome to keep these playlists forever 
-there might be some mistakes with my english, I’m italian
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> I’d like to get these playlists:
>
> slayer -> 4v4 slayer
>
> big team battle -> 8v8 slayer
>
> team objective -> 4v4 objective
>
> big team objective -> 8v8 objective
>
> snipers -> 4v4 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
>
> big team snipers -> 8v8 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
>
> swat -> 4v4 swat
>
> flood -> 9 humans v 3 floods (shotguns and pistols)
>
> action sack -> 4v4/8v8
>
> race -> 8 players
>
> multi-team -> 4 teams (3 players each team)
>
> something like “competitive” -> 4v4 [no spartan abilities -> for those who doesn’t like them ( basic Halo core gameplay like Halo 2-3 )]
>
> rumble pit -> ffa 8 players
>
> grifball -> 4v4
>
> firefight -> 5 players (I’d love to get firefight back!)
>
> spartan ops -> 5 Players
>
> team doubles -> 2v2
>
> I think that’s all, tell me if I forgot something 
>
> PS
>
> -no all-snipers in btb, no objectives in non-objectives playlists
>
> -it would be awesome to keep these playlists forever 
>
> -there might be some mistakes with my english, I’m italian
Pretty much this list i agree with spot on.
> 2533274892367695;3:
> I’d like to get these playlists:
>
> slayer -> 4v4 slayer
>
> big team battle -> 8v8 slayer
>
> team objective -> 4v4 objective
>
> big team objective -> 8v8 objective
>
> snipers -> 4v4 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
>
> big team snipers -> 8v8 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
>
> swat -> 4v4 swat
>
> flood -> 9 humans v 3 floods (shotguns and pistols)
>
> action sack -> 4v4/8v8
>
> race -> 8 players
>
> multi-team -> 4 teams (3 players each team)
>
> something like “competitive” -> 4v4 [no spartan abilities -> for those who doesn’t like them ( basic Halo core gameplay like Halo 2-3 )]
>
> rumble pit -> ffa 8 players
>
> grifball -> 4v4
>
> firefight -> 5 players (I’d love to get firefight back!)
>
> spartan ops -> 5 Players
>
> team doubles -> 2v2
>
> I think that’s all, tell me if I forgot something 
>
> PS
>
> -no all-snipers in btb, no objectives in non-objectives playlists
>
> -it would be awesome to keep these playlists forever 
>
> -there might be some mistakes with my english, I’m italian
So what you are saying is you want 17+ playlists to divide the online population so vast that finding a game will take long lengths of time…
4 staple playlists & additional 2 more the rotate weekly basis, keep the population majority together & fresh with weekly rotates… If you wanna kill a favourite playlist of yours the best way is to have too many choices.
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> > 2533274892367695;3:
> > I’d like to get these playlists:
> >
> > slayer → 4v4 slayer
> >
> > big team battle → 8v8 slayer
> >
> > team objective → 4v4 objective
> >
> > big team objective → 8v8 objective
> >
> > snipers → 4v4 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
> >
> > big team snipers → 8v8 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
> >
> > swat → 4v4 swat
> >
> > flood → 9 humans v 3 floods (shotguns and pistols)
> >
> > action sack → 4v4/8v8
> >
> > race → 8 players
> >
> > multi-team → 4 teams (3 players each team)
> >
> > something like “competitive” → 4v4 [no spartan abilities → for those who doesn’t like them ( basic Halo core gameplay like Halo 2-3 )]
> >
> > rumble pit → ffa 8 players
> >
> > grifball → 4v4
> >
> > firefight → 5 players (I’d love to get firefight back!)
> >
> > spartan ops → 5 Players
> >
> > team doubles → 2v2
> >
> > I think that’s all, tell me if I forgot something 
> >
> > PS
> >
> > -no all-snipers in btb, no objectives in non-objectives playlists
> >
> > -it would be awesome to keep these playlists forever 
> >
> > -there might be some mistakes with my english, I’m italian
>
>
>
> So what you are saying is you want 17+ playlists to divide the online population so vast that finding a game will take long lengths of time…
> 4 staple playlists & additional 2 more the rotate weekly basis, keep the population majority together & fresh with weekly rotates… If you wanna kill a favourite playlist of yours the best way is to have too many choices.
well, Halo reach has more than 17 playlists. And I find annoying that when I’m on big team battle playlist I could accidentaly join big team snipers ^_^"
> 2533274798774028;5:
> > 2533274892367695;3:
> > I’d like to get these playlists:
> >
> > slayer → 4v4 slayer
> >
> > big team battle → 8v8 slayer
> >
> > team objective → 4v4 objective
> >
> > big team objective → 8v8 objective
> >
> > snipers → 4v4 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
> >
> > big team snipers → 8v8 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
> >
> > swat → 4v4 swat
> >
> > flood → 9 humans v 3 floods (shotguns and pistols)
> >
> > action sack → 4v4/8v8
> >
> > race → 8 players
> >
> > multi-team → 4 teams (3 players each team)
> >
> > something like “competitive” → 4v4 [no spartan abilities → for those who doesn’t like them ( basic Halo core gameplay like Halo 2-3 )]
> >
> > rumble pit → ffa 8 players
> >
> > grifball → 4v4
> >
> > firefight → 5 players (I’d love to get firefight back!)
> >
> > spartan ops → 5 Players
> >
> > team doubles → 2v2
> >
> > I think that’s all, tell me if I forgot something 
> >
> > PS
> >
> > -no all-snipers in btb, no objectives in non-objectives playlists
> >
> > -it would be awesome to keep these playlists forever 
> >
> > -there might be some mistakes with my english, I’m italian
>
>
> So what you are saying is you want 17+ playlists to divide the online population so vast that finding a game will take long lengths of time…
> 4 staple playlists & additional 2 more the rotate weekly basis, keep the population majority together & fresh with weekly rotates… If you wanna kill a favourite playlist of yours the best way is to have too many choices.
Not really this amount of playlist is definitely feasible you just need a high population if we have a population of Halo 4 then this would fail but if we have the population of Halo 2 & 3 in there heyday then this can work easy.
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> > 2533274798774028;5:
> > > 2533274892367695;3:
> > > I’d like to get these playlists:
> > >
> > > slayer → 4v4 slayer
> > >
> > > big team battle → 8v8 slayer
> > >
> > > team objective → 4v4 objective
> > >
> > > big team objective → 8v8 objective
> > >
> > > snipers → 4v4 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
> > >
> > > big team snipers → 8v8 snipers (no pistol, no granades)
> > >
> > > swat → 4v4 swat
> > >
> > > flood → 9 humans v 3 floods (shotguns and pistols)
> > >
> > > action sack → 4v4/8v8
> > >
> > > race → 8 players
> > >
> > > multi-team → 4 teams (3 players each team)
> > >
> > > something like “competitive” → 4v4 [no spartan abilities → for those who doesn’t like them ( basic Halo core gameplay like Halo 2-3 )]
> > >
> > > rumble pit → ffa 8 players
> > >
> > > grifball → 4v4
> > >
> > > firefight → 5 players (I’d love to get firefight back!)
> > >
> > > spartan ops → 5 Players
> > >
> > > team doubles → 2v2
> > >
> > > I think that’s all, tell me if I forgot something 
> > >
> > > PS
> > >
> > > -no all-snipers in btb, no objectives in non-objectives playlists
> > >
> > > -it would be awesome to keep these playlists forever 
> > >
> > > -there might be some mistakes with my english, I’m italian
> >
> >
> >
> > So what you are saying is you want 17+ playlists to divide the online population so vast that finding a game will take long lengths of time…
> > 4 staple playlists & additional 2 more the rotate weekly basis, keep the population majority together & fresh with weekly rotates… If you wanna kill a favourite playlist of yours the best way is to have too many choices.
>
>
> Not really this amount of playlist is definitely feasible you just need a high population if we have a population of Halo 4 then this would fail but if we have the population of Halo 2 & 3 in there heyday then this can work easy.
then lets hope we have Halo 2&3 population XD
Main:
Rumble Pit
Team Slayer
Capture the Flag
Objective
BTB
(More playlists based on game types.
Special:
Flood/Infection
Grifball
Race
Ideal setup:
Arena/Ranked:
Classic/MLG (4v4 Slayer + Objective)
Team SWAT (4v4 Slayer + Objective)
Team Snipers (4v4 Slayer)
Social:
Action Sack ( 4v4 random community gametypes that rotate every week or month)
Big Team Battle (8v8 Slayer + Objective and also 2v2v2v2 Slayer + Objective)
Grifball
Living Dead (Infection, Safe Haven, Flood, etc.)
Rumble Pit (FFA Slayer + Objective)
Team Battle (4v4 Slayer + Objective)
Premium Battle (Can be added in later; 6v6 Slayer + Objective for all DLC maps)
This would be a pretty good balance.
Team Objective should be merged with Team Slayer to become Team Battle as Objective has historically been an underpopulated playlist. I feel like Race should be a permanent feature of Action Sack rather than its own playlist. Multi-Team should be changed to 4 teams of 2 and merged into Big Team Battle since it also underperforms.
So 9 playlists at launch which turns to 10 once the DLC starts rolling in. That’s less playlists than MCC, Reach, and Halo 3. I guess you could also throw in Firefight and Co-op campaign but those don’t really split up the population and their inclusion wouldn’t really affect the player count of the rest.
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> Ideal setup:
>
> Arena/Ranked:
>
> Classic/MLG (4v4 Slayer + Objective)
> Team SWAT (4v4 Slayer + Objective)
> Team Snipers (4v4 Slayer)
>
> Social:
>
> Action Sack ( 4v4 random community gametypes that rotate every week or month)
> Big Team Battle (8v8 Slayer + Objective and also 2v2v2v2 Slayer + Objective)
> Grifball
> Living Dead (Infection, Safe Haven, Flood, etc.)
> Rumble Pit (FFA Slayer + Objective)
> Team Battle (4v4 Slayer + Objective)
> Premium Battle (Can be added in later; 6v6 Slayer + Objective for all DLC maps)
>
> This would be a pretty good balance.
>
> Team Objective should be merged with Team Slayer to become Team Battle as Objective has historically been an underpopulated playlist. I feel like Race should be a permanent feature of Action Sack rather than its own playlist. Multi-Team should be changed to 4 teams of 2 and merged into Big Team Battle since it also underperforms.
>
> So 9 playlists at launch which turns to 10 once the DLC starts rolling in. That’s less playlists than MCC, Reach, and Halo 3. I guess you could also throw in Firefight and Co-op campaign but those don’t really split up the population and their inclusion wouldn’t really affect the player count of the rest.
No the two should definitely not be merged there are some of us who prefer objective over slayer if you merge the two playlist and people get to vote which they would prefer to play then the likely hood of ever being able to play an objective game type is very low.
You don’t need a playlist for every iteration, while feasible on launch with many player yes but a few months down the track absolutely not. many specialised game types can be on a rotating roster. More then 10-12 playlists & it’s gonna be a problem.
Multi team could be incorporated in to FFA or Team slayer as a vote option. You play a few games of FFA then it comes up to vote on making 2 man teams for a game. Same with team slayer just a team slayer variant.