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> > Halo was the go-to top console shooter until COD4 came along and struck a chord with the casual gamers in a way Halo never could, now you’ve got COD on a yearly basis, Battlefield and now Destiny Battlefront and Titanfall amongst others. With the skill gap in Halo being so high with the TTK being so high I don’t know how Halo can strike that balance to draw in and keep the casual crowd without losing what truly makes it Halo, from an arena standpoint anyway.
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> -OTP halo is well known for changing its formula after each game and because of that the fan base changes (old people leave, new people join) so keeping the casual crowd significantly changes perspective on who thinks who is casual after 2 halo games, and here we are playing the 10th halo game.
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> > Warzone is probably on the right path but I think they need to go full PVE keep it pretty much as it is now in that you assault bases on a big battle field defeating the but with a boss in each one and spawning at different points in the map working your way up in difficulty to a big final boss showdown at their homebase. The Req system needs tweaking to make it feel more rewarding, offering far more customisation of the weapons and armour than is now.
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> -OTP warzone is a FPS MOBA where the main method of winning is not to destroy the enemy base. I would not classify it as a step towards PVE anything seeing how warzone is set up closer to Multi-Team KOTH + bots. As for the REQ system; I honestly believe that the system is designed for faster REQ level ups (like at E3 and games con) therefore; with the leveling up slowed down we (as a community) see certain items to be priced too high for energy for the expectations when claiming said REQ item. Best examples of this are the energy knifed load outs, DMR, carbine, scorpion.
> -LP “more customizations of the weapons and armor” can and be fixed by the free DLC. If you are referring to more skins and armor sets.
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> > They have nailed Arena for the most part, again, few tweaks here and there, more maps more modes etc. Core gameplay wise with the new mechanics and gunplay the game is great, I’ll be interested to see what 343 do and see what the game is in a years time.
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> -FP I will not try to persuade you otherwise if you have chosen to no longer believe “casuals” will play the game again.
> -LP The arena has been the focus since day one of the beta and has been improved through tested and feedback, long story short the arena is great because they put the most amount of work into making it great.
> -FT H5G will not be complete until its last (known) DLC launches in July 16 2016 and therefore is not a full game until then. Aside from that, (imo) H5G is one fine damn fun game to play since HCE and H5G is not even finished in content.
I’m with you on the saturation.
Halos changed its formula sure but never changed it so drastically that any half decent gamer can pick up the controller and get 15+ kills straight off the bat. I played blops3 tonight Im not even level 30 or many hours played and I had games where I had 3+ K/D with 20+ kills, never went negative, I wouldn’t even class myself a good FPS player.
At minute warzone is too competitive I agree I don’t see players taking their first stab at halo getting anymore joy in that mode as it stands than they would in arena. It needs tweeking, more AI, req increasing anyway so everyone gets a chance to use their cards and have a chance at a comeback, although the team leading will still level their req quicker.
PVE might not be warzone but its a mistake on 343’s part with the loot system they have in place to not have purely PVE mode, look at the success of Destinys with its raids, Gears Horde mode, people but COD just for zombies, PVE modes are insanity popular, add the req system to it it’s a massive opportunity missed on their part.
With regards customisation I’m not just talking skins (great for Arena) I mean proper customisation, armour pieces, mods, gun attachments, sure we have the different variants on the cards and loads of armour sets but I don’t think they went deep enough into it.
You don’t need to convince me I’ve seen the numbers, Halo is big but it isn’t as big as it was, not by a long way, for various reasons.
Like I said I’m interested to see what that final game will be like, as it is they’ve got a solid game at its core, the potential is there.