Halo 5 is the final nail in the coffin

Low reviews by journalists and customers alike already, the campaign being very underwhelming and a total bait and switch from what you guys advertised before release, the multiplayer still looking like and feeling like and playing like a combination of CoD and Battlefield, REQ packs to nickel and dime the modern casual playerbase, and releasing a game with less content at launch.

I’m sorry but this game doesn’t scream being a natural progression from Halo 2/3 at all. The multiplayer gameplay shows it, the elementary writing and story shows it, and the removal and delay of so much other features that became staples in Halo 2 and 3 shows it. With the next CoD and Fallout just on the horizon I expect Halo 5 to turn out like Halo 4 all over again.

3 botched launches of Halo games. I think it’s time someone else takes the helm of Halo development because you guys aren’t listening to the classic Halo fans and you guys can’t seem to bring back the game to its roots when it was at its peak during Halo 3.

Here comes the hate! Get ready!

I agree with you actually. On everything you said. Most people with common sense would.

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Blind Fanboys hate incoming in 3… 2… 1…

eh, i’m liking it man!

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Oh go -Yoink- yourself.
The game doesn’t play anything like CoD or battlefield, you’re just spouting out crap other people are saying. The REQ packs are completely optional, doesn’t change the game at all, and can be purchased through in game currencies, and because of them DLC you’d usually pay another 30 bucks for is free.
The campaign was a setup to Halo 6, which is probably the finale, just like Halo 2 was to 3, or last years hunger games was to this year.
Halo is fine. It’s fun.

Pretty much, in fact the implosion is happening faster than I predicted. I wonder what the population actually is. Like out of the less than 2 million xbox one owners, minus the people who don’t have xbox live, how many bought and are playing it? I bet it will still outlast halo 4, but no way in hell is it gonna have a large population 8 months from now. CoD and fallout especially will eat up some of halo 5’s population.

Here’s hoping for a revival on MCC.

Don’t know about you but I love halo 5.
its my favourite halo game.

I like it. I liked 4. I liked Reach. I liked every other game. I will most likely like 6 as well. All they have to do is patch some bugs and add forge in once they get it fully polished and it will be my game of the year.

We will find out, I’m sure. Halo will never go back to how it used to be though. This game sold a lot. And got good reviews. 86 on Metacritic. That’s pretty high up there. Far from bad. Know what that means? They’ve got the good press, and they’ve got their money. Onto Halo 6.

I’m enjoying the game myself. If older fans don’t like it, I don’t know what to say. Move on I guess? Because as much as anyone would like Halo 5 to be Halo 3.5. It won’t happen.

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> The game doesn’t play anything like CoD or battlefield, you’re just spouting out crap other people are saying. The REQ packs are completely optional, doesn’t change the game at all, and can be purchased through in game currencies, and because of them DLC you’d usually pay another 30 bucks for is free.
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> The campaign was a setup to Halo 6, which is probably the finale, just like Halo 2 was to 3, or last years hunger games was to this year.
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> Halo is fine. It’s fun.

The fact req packs exist is an inherent change to the game. Warzone mode evolves around the Req system, it is designed to sell packs. mechanically it is more similar to CoD and BF than it ever will be to halo 2 and 3. If you can’t tell the difference between halo 2/3 and halo 5, you must be insane.

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> > The game doesn’t play anything like CoD or battlefield, you’re just spouting out crap other people are saying. The REQ packs are completely optional, doesn’t change the game at all, and can be purchased through in game currencies, and because of them DLC you’d usually pay another 30 bucks for is free.
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> > The campaign was a setup to Halo 6, which is probably the finale, just like Halo 2 was to 3, or last years hunger games was to this year.
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> The fact req packs exist is an inherent change to the game. mechanically it is more similar to CoD and BF than it ever will be to halo 2 and 3. If you can’t tell the difference between halo 2/3 and halo 5, you must be insane.

I can see a difference.
they evolved halo to a new but still very fun game.

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> > The game doesn’t play anything like CoD or battlefield, you’re just spouting out crap other people are saying. The REQ packs are completely optional, doesn’t change the game at all, and can be purchased through in game currencies, and because of them DLC you’d usually pay another 30 bucks for is free.
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> The fact req packs exist is an inherent change to the game. mechanically it is more similar to CoD and BF than it ever will be to halo 2 and 3. If you can’t tell the difference between halo 2/3 and halo 5, you must be insane.

How do req packs change the game?

Of course Halo 5 feels different. It’s more dynamic, faster, and competitive. It still doesn’t feel anything like battlefield or CoD, though. If it were just like halo 2, we’d still be -Yoinking!- playing halo 2. You can do that on master chief edition. It’s about the evolution of a franchise… and it was done pretty good. Sure there are complaints but it’s pretty minimal.

Sadly I believe that classic Halo is gone. 343 gave us the MCC to play classic and they’re firmly into their own interpretation of Halo with 4 and now 5.

I’m enjoying the hell out of Halo 5 so far, its the best multiplayer i’ve played in a little while. It is probably the best way they could have modernized Halo, would you rather we just got a carbon copy of Halo 2/3 again?

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> The game doesn’t play anything like CoD or battlefield, you’re just spouting out crap other people are saying. The REQ packs are completely optional, doesn’t change the game at all, and can be purchased through in game currencies, and because of them DLC you’d usually pay another 30 bucks for is free.
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> The campaign was a setup to Halo 6, which is probably the finale, just like Halo 2 was to 3, or last years hunger games was to this year.
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> Halo is fine. It’s fun.

Not being as strongly worded, Halo 5 did leave some untapped potential. It is certainly a set-up for Halo 6 which I hope figures out how to fill said potential, but as for the franchise…
Mass Effect survived worse, Halo can endured this firestorm.

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What an ignorant statement. Believe it or not, people do enjoy this game because they can accept things for what it is. I highly enjoyed the campaign (though I will say the first half could have been better and the campaign could/should have been lengthened). Don’t care about the MP personally. The people that don’t like the story I feel just don’t “get it”. The music and gameplay in campaign is probably the best of the entire series as is the voice acting. The biggest down fall of Halo 5 story is probably just the fact that they had “too many cooks in the kitchen” by having so many characters. They just wasted Jul M’dama as a character. Halsey didn’t get enough face time nor did John and Blue team. But that didn’t change the fact that the story, or at the very least its direction, was very good.

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> I’m enjoying the hell out of Halo 5 so far, its the best multiplayer i’ve played in a little while. It is probably the best way they could have modernized Halo, would you rather we just got a carbon copy of Halo 2/3 again?

Yes. I would have preferred that over what we got. Ideally, I’d like to see them use H2/H3 as a starting point and make subtle improvements. But if the choice is between a rehash of H2/H3 and what we got with H5, I’d choose H2/H3 any day.

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> they evolved halo to a new but still very fun game.

You call this evolution? This is what I call mediocrity, not evolution. They basically took a Title Update Halo 4, yet kept armor abilities and called it Halo 5: Guardians. I don’t see anything that respects the evolution of the classic Halo games. It’s not fun at all. If this is what I wanted from a game I’d go play CoD or Battlefield.

Agree with it all, OP. Well said.

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> Yes. I would have preferred that over what we got. Ideally, I’d like to see them use H2/H3 as a starting point and make subtle improvements. But if the choice is between a rehash of H2/H3 and what we got with H5, I’d choose H2/H3 any day.

Although knowing the devs they’d probably botch that up too. Look at what happened to TMCC. And with the classics, Bungie perfected the amount of change and the quality of it. From CE to Halo 2 it wasn’t much, and from Halo 2 to Halo 3 it wasn’t much either yet the games only got better and better in every aspect of the multiplayer. Classic Halo didn’t need any of this CoD-like evolution.