HALO 5 is evolving in the wrong direction

This is a lot of text but stay with me.

I remember the day HALO 3 did release. It was magical. So much new and innovative stuff for the franchise was introduced then. It was a huge leap in multiplayer form HALO 2 but it did still feel like a HALO game. The way that maps where designed. The way weapons were placed. The graphics were not the best from a technical view but from a esthetical view they were amazing. I miss the way multiplayer use to be in HALO. When all was about map control. It was so much better when power ups and equipments was placed on the map instead of something integrated in the armor from spawn. I really liked the fights that could break out about bubble shields or power drains.
In my opinion HALO started to be going a bit downhill from HALO Reach when Bungie started to look at the successes of the COD series. From that point HALO stop being a game that other games would copy. I remember how awesome it was when theater mode in campaign and multiplayer were introduced (Which seams to be gone now forever in campaign and made so you cant watch a game together with your friends and only with your self). Soon other games (the COD series) started to implement theater mode in there games becaus it was working so awesome in HALO 3. File share was also somthing other games started to ripp of HALO 3. (And then firefight from HALO 3:ODST)

But something happened to the HALO series after HALO 3. HALO started copying/going in the same direction as COD (wich a lot of other games started to do too). In HALO Reach we had the introduction of loadouts and equipments (perks). We had the new xp system wich was based on xp from kills and the way you killed someone (like in COD). Instead of having 1 xp per game and good teamplay you would now rank up (without skills) just by grinding the game and earn point from killsteals (like COD) so you could buy your armor instead of earning it from achievements and skills.
And what happens next? Well HALO 4 of course. And it is here HALO started to really look like COD and going downhill unfortunately. You could customize your weapons (with cammo). You would unlock weapons camo and armor camo by kills/headshots and other ways of killing people (we had a bit of this is Reached already but it was only xp based then). You get killstreaks and you could chose what kind of weapon and ability you wanted to start a game with. The maps did have a cheap feeling (not as cheap as HALO Reach were they more or less took MP maps straight outta campaign). No firefight (downgrade from HALO 3: ODST). Instead we got something called Spartan Ops (rip of from Spec Ops from COD) and it was cheaply and bad made. You would just play some campaign levels again and again and again and with a bad story (the cinematics parts were good but the character were not. Except for Lasky and Dr Halsey) No theater mode from campaign (downgrade from HALO 3 and Reach) No weapons on the map (downgrade from all previous halos).Replacing SGT Johnson (Who had some balls) with Commander Plamer (Who thinks she got balls).
And then we have the new soundtrack for HALO 4 which had some good parts but mostly did not sound like HALO but more like some dance floor dubstep wannabe cool hits music.
HALO is no longer a game other games look up to and copies from. Halo is now the game that look up to other games (we will see how it will be with HALO 5).
In my opinion the best HALO would be HALO 3 with sprint added and some new weapon, new vehicles, new maps, new armors and new graphics. Thats it.

I hope you make did it through this long text. Now I want to hear your comments about it.

Sgt. Johnson died in Halo 3… Bungie killed him But I agree that Halo 3 was best Halo so far in MP.

Halo 5 ripped off of both CoD: Advanced Warfare and Destiny. I now refer to it as Call of Destiny 5: Guardians. The models and story may be Halo, but gameplay is what makes Halo unique. I do not consider it Halo any longer.

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> Sgt. Johnson died in Halo 3… Bungie killed him
> But I agree that Halo 3 was best Halo so far in MP.

I know that Bungie did kill him and that was a really sad moment. But they did kill him in a really good way (not that killing awesome characters is a good thing but I thing you will understand what I mean.) But the thing I did not like about Palmer is that 343 have said that she is Johnsons replayser (they did not say it straight out but between the lines) and she is just a really bad character. She is trying so hard to be a man (and a strong independent women) that she is insulting other women.

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> I know that Bungie did kill him and that was a really sad moment. But they did kill him in a really good way (not that killing awesome characters is a good thing but I thing you will understand what I mean.) But the thing I did not like about Palmer is that 343 have said that she is Johnsons replayser (they did not say it straight out but between the lines) and she is just a really bad character. She is trying so hard to be a man (and a strong independent women) that she is insulting other women.

that is correct it is still an amazing ending as much as i wanted johnson it was the best send off. but also halo 5 is a work in progress as it has been said smart scope operates as halo has always done, hip fire is still as good as aiming down the sight (it would ruin the experience if that was not true). I would like to add that i can understand the CoD part (a little bit) but I can’t see how it ripped off destiny. I think that halo is coming back and i want to be there i have done since the end of halo 2 and then when i could, and the last year of halo 3. (as i say it is only my opinion though)

I’ve got to be the only Halo fan with a strong bias to the original trilogy, who actually likes what he is seeing. Seriously, H2 and H3 were amazing. Reach and H4 were an embarrassment. An outright insult to the license. H5? Looking pretty promising. The essence of Halo is what’s important to me. Not the abilities. I didn’t care one bit about the equipment in H3. It didn’t mess with the formula in any real way. Just like I don’t care about the ability to quickly dash a whole 3 feet in any direction. Just like I don’t care that I’m “ADS” now. The ADS, btw, is just a different animation for the exact same function. It doesn’t change the core gameplay one bit. Seriously some of you are impossible to please. Since Reach and 4 I’ve been basically begging for H2.5. Now that I’ve seen this, I no longer want a rehash. Gimme Halo 5.

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> Just like I don’t care that I’m “ADS” now. The ADS, btw, is just a different animation for the exact same function. It doesn’t change the core gameplay one bit. Seriously some of you are impossible to please. Since Reach and 4 I’ve been basically begging for H2.5. Now that I’ve seen this, I no longer want a rehash. Gimme Halo 5.

Interesting that your optimistic about this, given your thoughts about the last two games. I, like you, am not declaring the apocalypse. However, i cannot for the life of me, live with ADS. It just does not look good on a Halo game. I mean, fair enough for the weapons that have scopes…But the AR? Why on earth would you have a zoom function for the AR? Especially when it survived 14 years without one? And, if the zoom is purely a cosmetic change, why have the change in the first place? Its not changing the way the game plays, so it really isn’t necessary. The way the old zoom function worked was perfect…

Some of the SA’s are definitely going to be picked on for balance, i can already see this with the ground pound, but i’ll see how the beta goes.

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> Halo 5 ripped off of both CoD: Advanced Warfare and Destiny. I now refer to it as Call of Destiny 5: Guardians. The models and story may be Halo, but gameplay is what makes Halo unique. I do not consider it Halo any longer.

I can see the comparisons to AW with the movement system and all, but Destiny? Are you just listing random games?

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> > Halo 5 ripped off of both CoD: Advanced Warfare and Destiny. I now refer to it as Call of Destiny 5: Guardians. The models and story may be Halo, but gameplay is what makes Halo unique. I do not consider it Halo any longer.
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prolly cause shoulder charge.

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> > Just like I don’t care that I’m “ADS” now. The ADS, btw, is just a different animation for the exact same function. It doesn’t change the core gameplay one bit. Seriously some of you are impossible to please. Since Reach and 4 I’ve been basically begging for H2.5. Now that I’ve seen this, I no longer want a rehash. Gimme Halo 5.
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> Interesting that your optimistic about this, given your thoughts about the last two games. I, like you, am not declaring the apocalypse. However, i cannot for the life of me, live with ADS. It just does not look good on a Halo game. I mean, fair enough for the weapons that have scopes…But the AR? Why on earth would you have a zoom function for the AR? Especially when it survived 14 years without one? And, if the zoom is purely a cosmetic change, why have the change in the first place? Its not changing the way the game plays, so it really isn’t necessary. The way the old zoom function worked was perfect…
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Jfc just don’t use it then. You really don’t need to use it, there is no change in the accuracy of the bullets between Smart Scoping and firing from the hip. The only change is giving the player the choice to improve their shot. Also so many change in Halo have been purely cosmetic, welcome to yet another game that isn’t the previous game. The old zoom function was garbage and no one used it, this will at least get some use of the players who want to use it.
To complain about a cosmetic change which ‘wasn’t necessary’ is the smallest of small complaints. It doesn’t affect you at all, not one bit - you just won’t use it.

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> Halo 5 ripped off of both CoD: Advanced Warfare and Destiny. I now refer to it as Call of Destiny 5: Guardians. The models and story may be Halo, but gameplay is what makes Halo unique. I do not consider it Halo any longer.

Oh snap. You must’ve been there to play it at Halofest to make such accusations. Tell me, what it is like? What’s the classic controller scheme called? Can I see my spartans legs? Feel free to offer any info you may have.

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That’s a subclass-specific selectable perk in Destiny. No resemblance.

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> I’ve got to be the only Halo fan with a strong bias to the original trilogy, who actually likes what he is seeing. Seriously, H2 and H3 were amazing. Reach and H4 were an embarrassment. An outright insult to the license. H5? Looking pretty promising. The essence of Halo is what’s important to me. Not the abilities. I didn’t care one bit about the equipment in H3. It didn’t mess with the formula in any real way. Just like I don’t care about the ability to quickly dash a whole 3 feet in any direction. Just like I don’t care that I’m “ADS” now. The ADS, btw, is just a different animation for the exact same function. It doesn’t change the core gameplay one bit. Seriously some of you are impossible to please. Since Reach and 4 I’ve been basically begging for H2.5. Now that I’ve seen this, I no longer want a rehash. Gimme Halo 5.

This.

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> I’ve got to be the only Halo fan with a strong bias to the original trilogy, who actually likes what he is seeing. Seriously, H2 and H3 were amazing. Reach and H4 were an embarrassment. An outright insult to the license. H5? Looking pretty promising. The essence of Halo is what’s important to me. Not the abilities. I didn’t care one bit about the equipment in H3. It didn’t mess with the formula in any real way. Just like I don’t care about the ability to quickly dash a whole 3 feet in any direction. Just like I don’t care that I’m “ADS” now. The ADS, btw, is just a different animation for the exact same function. It doesn’t change the core gameplay one bit. Seriously some of you are impossible to please. Since Reach and 4 I’ve been basically begging for H2.5. Now that I’ve seen this, I no longer want a rehash. Gimme Halo 5.

AMEN BROTHER AMEN!!! Finally i found some smart and objective dude in the internet

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> Halo 5 ripped off of both CoD: Advanced Warfare and Destiny. I now refer to it as Call of Destiny 5: Guardians. The models and story may be Halo, but gameplay is what makes Halo unique. I do not consider it Halo any longer.

With that acusations it feels that you played competitively most of the haos. well tell me you rank. You got a 50 oh i dont know… me and my brother are very different. nowdays he still plays halo 3 to get another 50… just check my playtime in that game. and i like halo 4 a lot because it was diferent. 8the balancing issues were garbage, i know). and finally 343 gave us something balanced and promising. People these days are -Yoinks!-. What game do you play nowdays… -Yoinking!- cod or something. A true halo fan would know by the videos that it is well balanced. So chill out bro… people that claims that is cod knows nothing, just nothing.

I guess since every fps has a gun its all Doom.

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> Halo 5 ripped off of both CoD: Advanced Warfare and Destiny. I now refer to it as Call of Destiny 5: Guardians. The models and story may be Halo, but gameplay is what makes Halo unique. I do not consider it Halo any longer.

Halo’s gameplay was never unique in the first place. There’s plenty of games that have what Halo: C.E. has that came before it.

I don’t understand this notion some Halo fans have that Halo is this magical unique snowflake. It is not. It has taken and been inspired by aspects of other franchises. Bungie has gone on record that they were heavily influenced by the Alien franchise and Ridley Scott/ James Cameron. I remember when Avatar came out how Halo fans were throwing accusations at Cameron over stuff like designs of dropships and such when Halo took from those designs in the first place.

Also, comments like calling Halo 5: Guardians something like “Call of Destiny 5: Guardians” is juvenile and immature. It has no place value in any discussion and should be removed entirely.

So much innovative stuff was introduced in Halo 3? Like what? Equipment? Ripping off turrets? Haha, yeah right. Halo 3 was barely a step up from Halo 2. Jumping between the two I feel like I’m playing the same game.

Halo 3 was as much of an evolution of Halo 2 as any CoD sequel is an evolution of CoD.

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> Jfc just don’t use it then. You really don’t need to use it, there is no change in the accuracy of the bullets between Smart Scoping and firing from the hip. The only change is giving the player the choice to improve their shot.

So by that logic it must improve accuracy, lower recoil, or do what scopes have done in the past and increase the RRR, other wise how would it improve the shots of anyone…, and would mean mean its not just cosmetic.

Also if you watch game play of people using the AR you can clearly see that the reticle has bloom when fired from the hip and no bloom when using ADS, which shouldn’t be happening if it doesn’t improve accuracy should it.

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> Also, comments like calling Halo 5: Guardians something like “Call of Destiny 5: Guardians” is juvenile and immature. It has no place value in any discussion and should be removed entirely.

Amen to that.