Halo 5 is a bad game.

First, I’m pretty good at Halo 5, and all Halo’s, so please don’t respond by saying, “You must be bad, that’s why your upset.” It’s not true.

In Halo, I don’t like a sprint feature. It doesn’t feel like a Halo game, but honestly, I can live with it.

Then the “abilities.” There is NO good button configuration possible to comfortably utilize all the features (sprint, jet pack, thrust, ground pound and melee). I’d prefer 3 of those to be on the bumpers, which there is only 2 of, so it’s impossible to have a good layout. Adding too many abilities has made the game feel cumbersome, and definitely not like halo.

Now onto warzone and the Req. packs. What the hell is going on? Pandering to people, making them feel like winners by adding “prize” packs, that do absolutely nothing, is not fun or interesting and ruins an enjoyable Halo experience. In Halo 5, I’ve played a lot of games, and have no idea what the Req packs do, but they want me to spend a lot of time opening and scrolling through inventory, instead of playing and having fun. No thanks. It’s a bad idea, that’s very juvenile. Pandering.

The campaign was also forgettable (I beat it with my bro day 1, can’t remember one thing about it).

It seems like Halo has become too mainstream, and fell prey to pandering and copying what other games have done, to try to reach a larger audience, while sacrificing the quality and appeal of a solid HALO game. Not Call of Halo, or Halofield 1.

Back to playing MCC to get that enjoyable Halo feeling and fun, that seems to be long gone.

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> First, I’m pretty good at Halo 5, and all Halo’s, so please don’t respond by saying, “You must be bad, that’s why your upset.” It’s not true.

U WOT

That’s just your own opinion on the game. For most of us, we probably won’t give a damn and we’ll simply move on.

Halo 5 is tough for newbies. Better luck elsewhere.

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> That’s just your own opinion on the game. For most of us, we probably won’t give a damn and we’ll simply move on.

Just want to play my favorite game and have fun. I forced myself to play Halo 5 to try and like it, but can’t.

Halo MCC is fun but getting old. 343i needs to stop pandering and realize making a quality game is good enough to get sales.

A camel is a horse designed by a committee.

Halo 5 is a smelly Camel.

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> Halo 5 is tough for newbies. Better luck elsewhere.

I said at the beginning that people would respond with this. I’m not bad at Halo 5. Halo 5 feels easier than Halo 2 and 3. It’s a camel.

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> > Halo 5 is tough for newbies. Better luck elsewhere.
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> I said at the beginning that people would respond with this. I’m not bad at Halo 5. Halo 5 feels easier than Halo 2 and 3. It’s a camel.

Not accusing you of being a bad player. Simply stating that if you are new to the game, you will have a tougher time. Even in the social modes some players think its the WZ HWC. I was in a game and the lead scorer started to berate some of the low scorers, during the game, I told him to stop.

Move on to a game you enjoy more, it will be better for you and us.

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> Move on to a game you enjoy more, it will be better for you and us.

Wrong.

Any good business wants and NEEDS feedback.

I’ve been a big Halo fan for years. I play other games now too, and vote with my wallet of course.

If enough people voice their displeasure with the poor choices that 343i has made, perhaps they will make changes in the future and revive this once great game.

Thanks for the “go away” comment. Why even respond like that? Have a point at least.

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> > > 2533274875982754;4:
> > > Halo 5 is tough for newbies. Better luck elsewhere.
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> > I said at the beginning that people would respond with this. I’m not bad at Halo 5. Halo 5 feels easier than Halo 2 and 3. It’s a camel.
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> Not accusing you of being a bad player. Simply stating that if you are new to the game, you will have a tougher time. Even in the social modes some players think its the WZ HWC. I was in a game and the lead scorer started to berate some of the low scorers, during the game, I told him to stop.

I’m aware that being new is tough. I was new to Halo 1-3 at some point, but loved them.

Battlefield 1 was more daunting than most games, I was completely new to it but fell in love and enjoyed it a lot.

Want a microcosm of society and the downfall of Halo? The “Distraction” medal, which is basically a participation trophy.

It’s a meh game to me, still played it more than H4 but I’ve played once this month and haven’t touched it since. It gets old :), especially when I said many times the games lack of variety would be an issue, it happens when you cut stuff that was in past game.

ill spare repeating my paragraphs if issues with not only h5 but 343s vision as it’s been said before.

id also laugh at the "you just suck so you hate it"comments as I’m superior in the newer games than I was the older ones, the older ones were the harder ones yet I still loved them tenfold.

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> > 2533274893424151;8:
> > Move on to a game you enjoy more, it will be better for you and us.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Any good business wants and NEEDS feedback.
>
> I’ve been a big Halo fan for years. I play other games now too, and vote with my wallet of course.
>
> If enough people voice their displeasure with the poor choices that 343i has made, perhaps they will make changes in the future and revive this once great game.
>
> Thanks for the “go away” comment. Why even respond like that? Have a point at least.

None of this is feedback though.

It’s not outright bashing 343i like many other threads in the past, but this is not feedback. You are simply complaining without bringing up any sort of solutions. You may elaborate on a few of these, but you never present a solution. You complain about the controller layouts for the abilities but never present an idea for a new controller layout that caters to you and probably other people. You complain that all the new abilities don’t feel Halo yet never dive into why. You say Warzone and the REQ system is pandering yet never explain why. You also never even touch Warzone despite stating it. It’s all about the REQ system. And finally, you say the campaign is forgettable but… that’s it. No reason why. No opinion on the story or characters. No complaints about the gameplay or levels. You simply say it’s forgettable.

None of this is feedback. It’s simply you complaining in a more mature manner than the average 343i hater on here.

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> First, I’m pretty good at Halo 5, and all Halo’s, so please don’t respond by saying, “You must be bad, that’s why your upset.” It’s not true.
>
> In Halo, I don’t like a sprint feature. It doesn’t feel like a Halo game, but honestly, I can live with it.
>
> Then the “abilities.” There is NO good button configuration possible to comfortably utilize all the features (sprint, jet pack, thrust, ground pound and melee). I’d prefer 3 of those to be on the bumpers, which there is only 2 of, so it’s impossible to have a good layout. Adding too many abilities has made the game feel cumbersome, and definitely not like halo.
>
> Now onto warzone and the Req. packs. What the hell is going on? Pandering to people, making them feel like winners by adding “prize” packs, that do absolutely nothing, is not fun or interesting and ruins an enjoyable Halo experience. In Halo 5, I’ve played a lot of games, and have no idea what the Req packs do, but they want me to spend a lot of time opening and scrolling through inventory, instead of playing and having fun. No thanks. It’s a bad idea, that’s very juvenile. Pandering.
>
> The campaign was also forgettable (I beat it with my bro day 1, can’t remember one thing about it).
>
> It seems like Halo has become too mainstream, and fell prey to pandering and copying what other games have done, to try to reach a larger audience, while sacrificing the quality and appeal of a solid HALO game. Not Call of Halo, or Halofield 1.
>
> Back to playing MCC to get that enjoyable Halo feeling and fun, that seems to be long gone.

  • Glad you can live with it because it’s not going anywhere. - I’ve found Halo 4 to be a good controller layout. Thrusters are LB while Melee/Spartan Charge/Ground Pound are RB. Everything else is pretty much standard Halo. Grenade and shooting are LT and RT. Scope is holding down right analog. Crouch is B, Reload X, Switching weapons Y, Jump is A, etc. - How are these abilities ‘not Halo?’ Sure Spartan Charge is complete BS but we’ve had thrusters since Halo Reach and even longer in the lore and the rest of the abilities are just different forms you can use them. They feel natural both in terms of gameplay and progression from Halo 3. - I don’t think grinding packs and relying on RNG is ‘pandering’ - Okay? Thanks for elaborating on why you find it forgettable…

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> > 2533274893424151;8:
> > Move on to a game you enjoy more, it will be better for you and us.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Any good business wants and NEEDS feedback.
>
> I’ve been a big Halo fan for years. I play other games now too, and vote with my wallet of course.
>
> If enough people voice their displeasure with the poor choices that 343i has made, perhaps they will make changes in the future and revive this once great game.
>
> Thanks for the “go away” comment. Why even respond like that? Have a point at least.

People have voiced their displeasures with halo 5 and most of the changes have been made. The ones you voice however are the displeasures that people have been -Yoinking!- about for years and haven’t changed. A pebble in an ocean won’t start a tsunami. If halo 6 is the game to trash sprint I will eat my words. Until then you’re preaching to the choir.

Halo 5 is NOT a bad game… if anything, its largest issues lie outside of the gameplay… but it’s still not enough to say it’s a bad game at all.

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> It’s a meh game to me, still played it more than H4 but I’ve played once this month and haven’t touched it since. It gets old :), especially when I said many times the games lack of variety would be an issue, it happens when you cut stuff that was in past game.
>
> ill spare repeating my paragraphs if issues with not only h5 but 343s vision as it’s been said before.
>
> id also laugh at the "you just suck so you hate it"comments as I’m superior in the newer games than I was the older ones, the older ones were the harder ones yet I still loved them tenfold.

The game has a lot of variety. Maybe you should try out modes you usually don’t play or play custom games for a more unique experience.

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> > 2533274923562209;11:
> > It’s a meh game to me, still played it more than H4 but I’ve played once this month and haven’t touched it since. It gets old :), especially when I said many times the games lack of variety would be an issue, it happens when you cut stuff that was in past game.
> >
> > ill spare repeating my paragraphs if issues with not only h5 but 343s vision as it’s been said before.
> >
> > id also laugh at the "you just suck so you hate it"comments as I’m superior in the newer games than I was the older ones, the older ones were the harder ones yet I still loved them tenfold.
>
> The game has a lot of variety. Maybe you should try out modes you usually don’t play or play custom games for a more unique experience.

Tell me where oddball, ricochet, king of the hill, one flag ctf, head hunters, etc etc are all at? Some I could play in customs sure, but taking it away from matchmaking just makes it even more of a turn off lol. Telling me to play modes I don’t play won’t work, I’ve played it all. I’m not going to play one mode and “be that guy” that will then say the game has no variety, I’m basing it off after touching everything and comparing it to previous games. Sorry but h5 lacks variety in terms of actual game modes, it’s playlists mean nothing.

Have to say your opinion isn’t valid due to you saying you don’t know what req packs do and you can’t remember anything from the campaign. Sounds like you like to rush through games and expect to be good and understand everything right away. Perhaps if you take your time and learn how stuff works you may like it better. But MCC is fun as well. Halo games are vastly different from game to game so all of us will have ones we like and don’t like.

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> > 2533274954911187;15:
> > > 2533274923562209;11:
> > > It’s a meh game to me, still played it more than H4 but I’ve played once this month and haven’t touched it since. It gets old :), especially when I said many times the games lack of variety would be an issue, it happens when you cut stuff that was in past game.
> > >
> > > ill spare repeating my paragraphs if issues with not only h5 but 343s vision as it’s been said before.
> > >
> > > id also laugh at the "you just suck so you hate it"comments as I’m superior in the newer games than I was the older ones, the older ones were the harder ones yet I still loved them tenfold.
> >
> > The game has a lot of variety. Maybe you should try out modes you usually don’t play or play custom games for a more unique experience.
>
> Tell me where oddball, ricochet, king of the hill, one flag ctf, head hunters, etc etc are all at? Some I could play in customs sure, but taking it away from matchmaking just makes it even more of a turn off lol. Telling me to play modes I don’t play won’t work, I’ve played it all. I’m not going to play one mode and “be that guy” that will then say the game has no variety, I’m basing it off after touching everything and comparing it to previous games. Sorry but h5 lacks variety in terms of actual game modes, it’s playlists mean nothing.

KOTH is in Action Sack. I hate that it’s in there and not Skirmish or some Objective playlist, but it’s there.

The rest I agree with though. Would love to see all those gamemodes/types return to matchmaking but for some reason they haven’t. BTB and Skirmish could be so much better with One Flag, One Bomb, Oddball, KOTH, Headhunters, and more meanwhile Ricochet would be a great playlist to go alongside Grifball.

We have plenty of playlists that offer variety. Warzone, Infection, Firefight, Snipers, Doubles, SWAT, Breakout, Slayer, Action Sack. The problem is that many of those playlists are just variations of Slayer or Team Arena but no ranks and with JIP, and 8v8 in BTB’s case. There’s variety but, not the variety some people are looking for.

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> First, I’m pretty good at Halo 5, and all Halo’s, so please don’t respond by saying, “You must be bad, that’s why your upset.” It’s not true.

You say, " I’m pretty good at Halo 5," yet you don’t play ranked at all. You only play Social, so the only way to tell if you’re good is your K/D, which is negative.
Not a good way to start your argument.

I think the spartan abilities are perfect right now since they’ve wanted to keep them in since Reach. The sprinting and thruster pack felt natural and didn’t affect gameplay too much. I couldn’t stand the jet pack, armor lock, and active camo as an ability.

I agree on the Warzone part, I also can’t stand that customization revolves around Warzone. You can only earn like 5 armor pieces, while the other 200+ must be unlocked in a Gold Pack, which may or may not contain 2 armor pieces max while the rest is all lame Warzone reqs. That is absolutely not fun for someone who doesn’t like to play Warzone a lot.

The campaign was awful, I agree. Nothing memorable at all, with the exception of the Legendary Ending.

In conclusion, Halo 5 is not necessarily a, “Bad Game,” it has its flaws.
IMO 343 can’t multitask and get more than one thing right:
Halo 4 had a great campaign, and you had to earn your armor, but its multiplayer suffered.
Halo MCC was great all around, but the multiplayer was unplayable for a long period of time for most people, still unplayable for some.
Halo 5 has the worst campaign, but the multiplayer is the best since Halo 3.

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> First, I’m pretty good at Halo 5, and all Halo’s, so please don’t respond by saying, “You must be bad, that’s why your upset.” It’s not true.

You can’t honestly post something like this and think we’re not going to look at your stats. Good grief.

In my opinion, Halo has been on a downward trend since 3 and it’s shown no signs of improving. Leave your feedback for 343i and find a new game to play until they make changes. There’s nothing else you can do.