With the recent announcement by 343 that official Halo 5 esports tournaments will be ending with Dreamhack in Atlanta next month, can we please get back the original Team Arena mode in ranked instead of the HCS version? Currently, there is no way to play any objective games according to Halo 5’s core vision–Spartan abilities, splinter grenades, automatics, etc. A few months ago, 343 removed the original Team Arena playlist from ranked and forced the HCS settings on us instead since there needed to be a place for aspiring pros to practice and the two playlists arguably couldn’t coexist (as 343 also pulled Team Arena’s social playlist replacement, called Core Play, because too many of us were playing that instead).
But now that HCS for Halo 5 is ending, I believe that fans of Halo 5’s original vision should now be able to play objective games again. Please bring back the original Team Arena, or, at the very least, make Core Play a permanent playlist. It’s unjust for 343 to take a nearly 3-year-old game and take away the only realistic way to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision–you know, the one we bought the game for.
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> With the recent announcement by 343 that official Halo 5 esports tournaments will be ending with Dreamhack in Atlanta next month, can we please get back the original Team Arena mode in ranked instead of the HCS version? Currently, there is no way to play any objective games according to Halo 5’s core vision–Spartan abilities, splinter grenades, automatics, etc. A few months ago, 343 removed the original Team Arena playlist from ranked and forced the HCS settings on us instead since there needed to be a place for aspiring pros to practice and the two playlists arguably couldn’t coexist (as 343 also pulled Team Arena’s social playlist replacement, called Core Play, because too many of us were playing that instead).
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> But now that HCS for Halo 5 is ending, I believe that fans of Halo 5’s original vision should now be able to play objective games again. Please bring back the original Team Arena, or, at the very least, make Core Play a permanent playlist. It’s unjust for 343 to take a nearly 3-year-old game and take away the only realistic way to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision–you know, the one we bought the game for.
Team Arena has always been meant to be the competitive rule set and playlist of H5
Edit: also 343 pulled core play because not enough players were playing It. If it had gotten a large population it would have been kept as a permanent social playlist.
I see the original Arena existing as a placeholder for what we have as the current Arena list. I understand your points are your preference but don’t see them as necessary given the current mechanics and rule set. It all comes down to preference.
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> > With the recent announcement by 343 that official Halo 5 esports tournaments will be ending with Dreamhack in Atlanta next month, can we please get back the original Team Arena mode in ranked instead of the HCS version? Currently, there is no way to play any objective games according to Halo 5’s core vision–Spartan abilities, splinter grenades, automatics, etc. A few months ago, 343 removed the original Team Arena playlist from ranked and forced the HCS settings on us instead since there needed to be a place for aspiring pros to practice and the two playlists arguably couldn’t coexist (as 343 also pulled Team Arena’s social playlist replacement, called Core Play, because too many of us were playing that instead).
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> > But now that HCS for Halo 5 is ending, I believe that fans of Halo 5’s original vision should now be able to play objective games again. Please bring back the original Team Arena, or, at the very least, make Core Play a permanent playlist. It’s unjust for 343 to take a nearly 3-year-old game and take away the only realistic way to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision–you know, the one we bought the game for.
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> Team Arena has always been meant to be the competitive rule set and playlist of H5
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> Edit: also 343 pulled core play because not enough players were playing It. If it had gotten a large population it would have been kept as a permanent social playlist.
Not really. Team Arena has only had the competitive rule set for the past few months in Halo 5’s otherwise 3-year existence. Regardless, in a few weeks is the last official HCS event for Halo 5, so the imposition of the competitive rule set on the entire population is no longer justified.
That’s not why 343 pulled Core Play. They pulled it because it was taking players away from Team Arena and Big Team Battle. It was doing fine, population-wise. It should be a permanent playlist as long as Team Arena is still under the niche competitive settings. There should always be a place to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision.
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> > > With the recent announcement by 343 that official Halo 5 esports tournaments will be ending with Dreamhack in Atlanta next month, can we please get back the original Team Arena mode in ranked instead of the HCS version? Currently, there is no way to play any objective games according to Halo 5’s core vision–Spartan abilities, splinter grenades, automatics, etc. A few months ago, 343 removed the original Team Arena playlist from ranked and forced the HCS settings on us instead since there needed to be a place for aspiring pros to practice and the two playlists arguably couldn’t coexist (as 343 also pulled Team Arena’s social playlist replacement, called Core Play, because too many of us were playing that instead).
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> > > But now that HCS for Halo 5 is ending, I believe that fans of Halo 5’s original vision should now be able to play objective games again. Please bring back the original Team Arena, or, at the very least, make Core Play a permanent playlist. It’s unjust for 343 to take a nearly 3-year-old game and take away the only realistic way to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision–you know, the one we bought the game for.
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> > Team Arena has always been meant to be the competitive rule set and playlist of H5
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> > Edit: also 343 pulled core play because not enough players were playing It. If it had gotten a large population it would have been kept as a permanent social playlist.
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> Not really. Team Arena has only had the competitive rule set for the past few months in Halo 5’s otherwise 3-year existence. Regardless, in a few weeks is the last official HCS event for Halo 5, so the imposition of the competitive rule set on the entire population is no longer justified.
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> That’s not why 343 pulled Core Play. They pulled it because it was taking players away from Team Arena and Big Team Battle. It was doing fine, population-wise. It should be a permanent playlist as long as Team Arena is still under the niche competitive settings. There should always be a place to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision.
The team arena setting you played and want back were literally the old HWC gametype and setting so yes Team Arena has always been the competitive ruleset.
Also you are straight wrong about the population. Look back at the matchmaking feedback posts and Josh states the relative populations of each playlist. Core play is included and you can see that it didn’t do well in terms of population.
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> > > > With the recent announcement by 343 that official Halo 5 esports tournaments will be ending with Dreamhack in Atlanta next month, can we please get back the original Team Arena mode in ranked instead of the HCS version? Currently, there is no way to play any objective games according to Halo 5’s core vision–Spartan abilities, splinter grenades, automatics, etc. A few months ago, 343 removed the original Team Arena playlist from ranked and forced the HCS settings on us instead since there needed to be a place for aspiring pros to practice and the two playlists arguably couldn’t coexist (as 343 also pulled Team Arena’s social playlist replacement, called Core Play, because too many of us were playing that instead).
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> > > > But now that HCS for Halo 5 is ending, I believe that fans of Halo 5’s original vision should now be able to play objective games again. Please bring back the original Team Arena, or, at the very least, make Core Play a permanent playlist. It’s unjust for 343 to take a nearly 3-year-old game and take away the only realistic way to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision–you know, the one we bought the game for.
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> > > Team Arena has always been meant to be the competitive rule set and playlist of H5
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> > > Edit: also 343 pulled core play because not enough players were playing It. If it had gotten a large population it would have been kept as a permanent social playlist.
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> > Not really. Team Arena has only had the competitive rule set for the past few months in Halo 5’s otherwise 3-year existence. Regardless, in a few weeks is the last official HCS event for Halo 5, so the imposition of the competitive rule set on the entire population is no longer justified.
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> > That’s not why 343 pulled Core Play. They pulled it because it was taking players away from Team Arena and Big Team Battle. It was doing fine, population-wise. It should be a permanent playlist as long as Team Arena is still under the niche competitive settings. There should always be a place to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision.
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> The team arena setting you played and want back were literally the old HWC gametype and setting so yes Team Arena has always been the competitive ruleset.
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> Also you are straight wrong about the population. Look back at the matchmaking feedback posts and Josh states the relative populations of each playlist. Core play is included and you can see that it didn’t do well in terms of population.
Acting like the change from old Team Arena–which had the same general settings as every other playlist and was representative of the original Halo 5 vision–to the HCS ones (which, for over a year was a separate playlist for a reason: because 343 knew it was drastically different and taking away the only way to play objective games under Halo 5’s original vision was anti-consumeristic) this past July isn’t a drastic change (no splinters, no Ground Pound, no Spartan Charge, no automatics, different radar, etc., all of which have always been in Team Arena until this past July) is ridiculous.
Ordinal rankings of playlist counts are meaningless. Core Play was doing fine and they only reason they pulled it was because people were playing it instead of the new HCS Team Arena.
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> I see the original Arena existing as a placeholder for what we have as the current Arena list. I understand your points are your preference but don’t see them as necessary given the current mechanics and rule set. It all comes down to preference.
If it all comes down to preference, then give players the option. The current rule set will no longer be relevant after Dreamhack Atlanta. That’s the last official HCS event for Halo 5. So they should roll back Team Arena to the original Halo 5 vision, in line with the other playlists. Taking away the only place to play objective Halo 5 (the HCS Team Arena settings is not Halo 5), three years after the game released, is anti-consumeristic, in my opinion.
Either way I hope they open up the maps etc again I’m so over playing the same few game types and so much slayer over and over again I just want some obj with a bunch of different maps hopefully after Atlanta this becomes a reality
I doubt they’ll revert back to baseline H5 settings and I really hope they don’t. Players should have access to MM which provides the same settings tournaments provide.
If people want to Ground Pound, Spartan Charge, spray ARs, and constantly be on the motion tracker, there’s always Slayer.
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> I doubt they’ll revert back to baseline H5 settings and I really hope they don’t. Players should have access to MM which provides the same settings tournaments provide.
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> If people want to Ground Pound, Spartan Charge, spray ARs, and constantly be on the motion tracker, there’s always Slayer.
Official HCS tournaments for Halo 5 are ending after next weekend.
That doesn’t enable them to play any objective game types. That’s the issue. If they won’t revert Team Arena to what it used to be, then they absolutely need to make Core Play a permanent play list. It’s unfair to consumers who purchased Halo 5 to play objective game types to take that away from them. HCS settings are so drastically different that it’s no longer Halo 5.
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> With the recent announcement by 343 that official Halo 5 esports tournaments will be ending with Dreamhack in Atlanta next month, can we please get back the original Team Arena mode in ranked instead of the HCS version? Currently, there is no way to play any objective games according to Halo 5’s core vision–Spartan abilities, splinter grenades, automatics, etc. A few months ago, 343 removed the original Team Arena playlist from ranked and forced the HCS settings on us instead since there needed to be a place for aspiring pros to practice and the two playlists arguably couldn’t coexist (as 343 also pulled Team Arena’s social playlist replacement, called Core Play, because too many of us were playing that instead).
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> But now that HCS for Halo 5 is ending, I believe that fans of Halo 5’s original vision should now be able to play objective games again. Please bring back the original Team Arena, or, at the very least, make Core Play a permanent playlist. It’s unjust for 343 to take a nearly 3-year-old game and take away the only realistic way to play objective game types according to the game’s original vision–you know, the one we bought the game for.