Halo 5: Guardians? Think I'll pass.

With the less-than satisfactory launch of Halo: the Master Chief Collection, I am very skeptical about Halo 5: Guardians. If 343i failed to port four existing sixth and seventh gen games to an eighth gen console well, what is to stop them from screwing up the launch of Halo 5: Guardians? I do not know about you, but I will need more than a virtual pinky promise to believe 343i. Even looking back at Halo 4, 343i proved their incompetence by launching a game with so many exploits that it was virtually unplayable. In all honesty, I think I would be better off buying almost any other game than Halo 5: Guardians. Yes, I both played and enjoyed the beta. However, I did have some massive issues on the gameplay side of things. Not only that, but a smooth, fully functioning beta is not enough to prove functionality at launch. So I am sorry 343i, but unless it is proven to me that you have a fully working game AT LAUNCH, I will be spending my money elsewhere.

You could always just rent the game and see if you like it. It’s what I’m doing.

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> You could always just rent the game and see if you like it. It’s what I’m doing.

From where, though? Do places even do that anymore?

One was 4 old games built for their time being dragged into a new console. Over 15 years worth of code held together by tape.

One me is being made for this game generation and has been built solely for the One.

There is the difference between these two games.

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> One was 4 old games built for their time being dragged into a new console. Over 15 years worth of code held together by tape.
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> One me is being made for this game generation and has been built solely for the One.
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> There is the difference between these two games.

Again, Halo 4.

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> > You could always just rent the game and see if you like it. It’s what I’m doing.
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> From where, though? Do places even do that anymore?

GameFly, Redbox, Gamerang, I’m sure other places.

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> With the less-than satisfactory launch of Halo: the Master Chief Collection, I am very skeptical about Halo 5: Guardians. If 343i failed to port four existing sixth and seventh gen games to an eighth gen console well, what is to stop them from screwing up the launch of Halo 5: Guardians? I do not know about you, but I will need more than a virtual pinky promise to believe 343i. Even looking back at Halo 4, 343i proved their incompetence by launching a game with so many exploits that it was virtually unplayable. In all honesty, I think I would be better off buying almost any other game than Halo 5: Guardians. Yes, I both played and enjoyed the beta. However, I did have some massive issues on the gameplay side of things. Not only that, but a smooth, fully functioning beta is not enough to prove functionality at launch. So I am sorry 343i, but unless it is proven to me that you have a fully working game AT LAUNCH, I will be spending my money elsewhere.

As I have been saying since MCC launched and what Frankie confirmed the other day, it was a “too many cooks” situation. And any programmer can tell you that when you have 5 studios, and 5 engines (all with varying coding styles/ languages that could be severely outdated) you cannot expect success when code contradicts and the human part of the issue.

But its your choice. Many people are split because 343 has released 1 working game and 1 broken one, it could go either way. I choose to pick up H5G because I enjoyed the beta.

Your loss.

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> > > You could always just rent the game and see if you like it. It’s what I’m doing.
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> > From where, though? Do places even do that anymore?
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> GameFly, Redbox, Gamerang, I’m sure other places.

I’ve honestly never heard of any of those. Are those online stores? I have no way of paying online.

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> > One was 4 old games built for their time being dragged into a new console. Over 15 years worth of code held together by tape.
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> > One me is being made for this game generation and has been built solely for the One.
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> > There is the difference between these two games.
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> Again, Halo 4.

Your argument goes out the window when you bring Halo 4 up in a technical argument. Halo 4 worked at launch, it played well, found matches quickly, and was a business success. Just because it doesn’t meet pre existing standards doesn’t mean it failed. I will admit that much if the gameplay consisted of gimmicks, but it played and worked.

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> > With the less-than satisfactory launch of Halo: the Master Chief Collection, I am very skeptical about Halo 5: Guardians. If 343i failed to port four existing sixth and seventh gen games to an eighth gen console well, what is to stop them from screwing up the launch of Halo 5: Guardians? I do not know about you, but I will need more than a virtual pinky promise to believe 343i. Even looking back at Halo 4, 343i proved their incompetence by launching a game with so many exploits that it was virtually unplayable. In all honesty, I think I would be better off buying almost any other game than Halo 5: Guardians. Yes, I both played and enjoyed the beta. However, I did have some massive issues on the gameplay side of things. Not only that, but a smooth, fully functioning beta is not enough to prove functionality at launch. So I am sorry 343i, but unless it is proven to me that you have a fully working game AT LAUNCH, I will be spending my money elsewhere.
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> As I have been saying since MCC launched and what Frankie confirmed the other day, it was a “too many cooks” situation. And any programmer can tell you that when you have 5 studios, and 5 engines (all with varying coding styles/ languages that could be severely outdated) you cannot expect success when code contradicts and the human part of the issue.
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> But its your choice. Many people are split because 343 has released 1 working game and 1 broken one, it could go either way. I choose to pick up H5G because I enjoyed the beta.
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> Your loss.

When their one fully working game at launch was a mobile game while their two high-budget console games were broken, what do you expect me to think about them as a developer?

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> > > One was 4 old games built for their time being dragged into a new console. Over 15 years worth of code held together by tape.
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> > > One me is being made for this game generation and has been built solely for the One.
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> > > There is the difference between these two games.
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> > Again, Halo 4.
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> Your argument goes out the window when you bring Halo 4 up in a technical argument. Halo 4 worked at launch, it played well, found matches quickly, and was a business success. Just because it doesn’t meet pre existing standards doesn’t mean it failed. I will admit that much if the gameplay consisted of gimmicks, but it played and worked.

When you could clip through walls and camp there, it’s far from “worked at launch”.

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> > > > You could always just rent the game and see if you like it. It’s what I’m doing.
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> > > From where, though? Do places even do that anymore?
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> > GameFly, Redbox, Gamerang, I’m sure other places.
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> I’ve honestly never heard of any of those. Are those online stores? I have no way of paying online.

Game Fly is online. Red box is both online and a vending business, Gamerang is online. Not to mention some places still rent out games. Blockbuster went out of business, but some retailers bought store rights to keep a few open (we have 2 blockbusters still open in a 15 mile radius in Fairbanks/ North Pole AK).

If you feel insecure with 343i, don’t buy it. Wait for the reviews.

I’ll be preordering, though. 343i has pointed to the MCC’s failure and said that Halo 5 will be nothing like it, and I believe them. They can’t afford for Halo 5 to be any less than a masterpiece if they want to fix the wrongs they made with Halo 4 and the MCC and ascend this franchise back to the throne.

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> > > > One was 4 old games built for their time being dragged into a new console. Over 15 years worth of code held together by tape.
> > > >
> > > > One me is being made for this game generation and has been built solely for the One.
> > > >
> > > > There is the difference between these two games.
> > >
> > >
> > > Again, Halo 4.
> >
> >
> > Your argument goes out the window when you bring Halo 4 up in a technical argument. Halo 4 worked at launch, it played well, found matches quickly, and was a business success. Just because it doesn’t meet pre existing standards doesn’t mean it failed. I will admit that much if the gameplay consisted of gimmicks, but it played and worked.
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> When you could clip through walls and camp there, it’s far from “worked at launch”.

The complex glitch? I could say the same about Halo 2, 3, and Reach with your logic.

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> If you feel insecure with 343i, don’t buy it. Wait for the reviews.
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> I’ll be preordering, though. 343i has pointed to the MCC’s failure and said that Halo 5 will be nothing like it, and I believe them. They can’t afford for Halo 5 to be any less than a masterpiece if they want to fix the wrongs they made with Halo 4 and the MCC and ascend this franchise back to the throne.

I agree, I dont normally preorder, but the beta impressed me.

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> > > With the less-than satisfactory launch of Halo: the Master Chief Collection, I am very skeptical about Halo 5: Guardians. If 343i failed to port four existing sixth and seventh gen games to an eighth gen console well, what is to stop them from screwing up the launch of Halo 5: Guardians? I do not know about you, but I will need more than a virtual pinky promise to believe 343i. Even looking back at Halo 4, 343i proved their incompetence by launching a game with so many exploits that it was virtually unplayable. In all honesty, I think I would be better off buying almost any other game than Halo 5: Guardians. Yes, I both played and enjoyed the beta. However, I did have some massive issues on the gameplay side of things. Not only that, but a smooth, fully functioning beta is not enough to prove functionality at launch. So I am sorry 343i, but unless it is proven to me that you have a fully working game AT LAUNCH, I will be spending my money elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > As I have been saying since MCC launched and what Frankie confirmed the other day, it was a “too many cooks” situation. And any programmer can tell you that when you have 5 studios, and 5 engines (all with varying coding styles/ languages that could be severely outdated) you cannot expect success when code contradicts and the human part of the issue.
> >
> > But its your choice. Many people are split because 343 has released 1 working game and 1 broken one, it could go either way. I choose to pick up H5G because I enjoyed the beta.
> >
> > Your loss.
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> When their one fully working game at launch was a mobile game while their two high-budget console games were broken, what do you expect me to think about them as a developer?

I’m not expecting you to think anything. I’m simply saying from a technical standpoint, Halo 4 worked at launch, and MCC was too good to be true (Hell take Economics, its one of the biggest rules in consumerism, if its too good to be true, then it is).

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> > With the less-than satisfactory launch of Halo: the Master Chief Collection, I am very skeptical about Halo 5: Guardians. If 343i failed to port four existing sixth and seventh gen games to an eighth gen console well, what is to stop them from screwing up the launch of Halo 5: Guardians? I do not know about you, but I will need more than a virtual pinky promise to believe 343i. Even looking back at Halo 4, 343i proved their incompetence by launching a game with so many exploits that it was virtually unplayable. In all honesty, I think I would be better off buying almost any other game than Halo 5: Guardians. Yes, I both played and enjoyed the beta. However, I did have some massive issues on the gameplay side of things. Not only that, but a smooth, fully functioning beta is not enough to prove functionality at launch. So I am sorry 343i, but unless it is proven to me that you have a fully working game AT LAUNCH, I will be spending my money elsewhere.
>
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> As I have been saying since MCC launched and what Frankie confirmed the other day, it was a “too many cooks” situation. And any programmer can tell you that when you have 5 studios, and 5 engines (all with varying coding styles/ languages that could be severely outdated) you cannot expect success when code contradicts and the human part of the issue.
>
> But its your choice. Many people are split because 343 has released 1 working game and 1 broken one, it could go either way. I choose to pick up H5G because I enjoyed the beta.
>
> Your loss.

As a programmer, I’m glad someone understands. I’m grabbing Halo 5 because I had a great time in the beta. I also personally believe that if we had an alpha, or a beta before MCC’s launch, 343 could have curbed alot of the issues.

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> > > With the less-than satisfactory launch of Halo: the Master Chief Collection, I am very skeptical about Halo 5: Guardians. If 343i failed to port four existing sixth and seventh gen games to an eighth gen console well, what is to stop them from screwing up the launch of Halo 5: Guardians? I do not know about you, but I will need more than a virtual pinky promise to believe 343i. Even looking back at Halo 4, 343i proved their incompetence by launching a game with so many exploits that it was virtually unplayable. In all honesty, I think I would be better off buying almost any other game than Halo 5: Guardians. Yes, I both played and enjoyed the beta. However, I did have some massive issues on the gameplay side of things. Not only that, but a smooth, fully functioning beta is not enough to prove functionality at launch. So I am sorry 343i, but unless it is proven to me that you have a fully working game AT LAUNCH, I will be spending my money elsewhere.
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> >
> > As I have been saying since MCC launched and what Frankie confirmed the other day, it was a “too many cooks” situation. And any programmer can tell you that when you have 5 studios, and 5 engines (all with varying coding styles/ languages that could be severely outdated) you cannot expect success when code contradicts and the human part of the issue.
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> > But its your choice. Many people are split because 343 has released 1 working game and 1 broken one, it could go either way. I choose to pick up H5G because I enjoyed the beta.
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> > Your loss.
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> As a programmer, I’m glad someone understands. I’m grabbing Halo 5 because I had a great time in the beta. I also personally believe that if we had an alpha, or a beta before MCC’s launch, 343 could have curbed alot of the issues.

Absolutely

Is too much harder to remake-port Halo The Master Chief Collection than develope one only game.

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> > You could always just rent the game and see if you like it. It’s what I’m doing.
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> From where, though? Do places even do that anymore?

ever heard of red box?