Halo 5: Guardians = False Advertising + Faults?

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Now, I have no hate towards the game, infact I love it, one of the greatest Halo games to date(Halo 2 by its side.), however the game had a lot of false advertisements and some faults, and in all honesty, there was no hunting our hero, or finding truth, which sadly made HtT seem pointless…
Here’s my list on faults in the game…

  • Master Chief was never confirmed a traitor, nor AWOL as seen in the Chief and Locke live action trailers… - The Guardians were never activated by Chief, even though the commercials, trailers and even the E3 story gameplay trailer made it seem that he did… - The lack of Blue Team was saddening and what 343 said was false. We only had 3 missions for Blue Team, and Osiris got 12… It was never balanced like 343 said it was going to be. - When I saw the brand new Co-Op, I actually thought it would have an online Co-Op, which I thought wrong… It would have made more sense for the removal of Split-Screen. - The Master Chief dead? A pointless thing to do, and it made no sense to the actual story whatsoever… - The REQ system was a HUGE mistake… The level up and receive either armour or a visor in the Beta was much better. They could of had the REQ system work like Halo: Reach and Halo 4’s credit system. Reach a certain level, have the proper amount of credits, buy your armour. “Were it so easy”. . . - From what I have heard, since I am still collecting the skulls and intel, you don’t even recieve ANYTHING for getting everything? Not even by completing Legendary difficulty? - The lack of Thel 'Vadam was also disappointing, especially when he basically wasn’t really important to the story either…Well that’s my thoughts and opinion on H5. Let me know on what you think of the game and let me know if I missed anything.
    I might be doing the same thing for the Fall of Reach animated series, let me know if I should post that too!
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Well I have to disagree on three points.

  1. Blue team was AWOL after refusing to head back to Infinity so they can go to Cortana. The Chief and Locke Trailers was more Symbolic to their opinions more than canonical.

  2. The trailers/E3 Demo only said he was onboard the Guardian. Never that he awoke it. So that isnt really a problem. While it was implied. It was never said directly leaving it open to opinion. Plus marketing kinda went more towards him running towards a Guardian waking up. Meaning 343i stopped implying he did after E3.

  3. Master Chief being dead was to preserve his legacy. Him going AWOL would cause problems. Season 1 of hunt the truth was to prove the problems of him going against the UNSC

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I have to say I agree with most of these, though I’m sure somewhere in the campaign they mentioned Chief being AWOL (not sure though). I really dislike FoR animated series, it felt incomplete and lots of things were changed, plus chief is made to seem like a cold blooded killer. Not to mention the event stated in the title is never shown.

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> Well I have to disagree on three points.
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> 1. Blue team was AWOL after refusing to head back to Infinity so they can go to Cortana. The Chief and Locke Trailers was more Symbolic to their opinions more than canonical.
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> 2. The trailers/E3 Demo only said he was onboard the Guardian. Never that he awoke it. So that isnt really a problem. While it was implied. It was never said directly leaving it open to opinion. Plus marketing kinda went more towards him running towards a Guardian waking up. Meaning 343i stopped implying he did after E3.
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> 5. Master Chief being dead was to preserve his legacy. Him going AWOL would cause problems. Season 1 of hunt the truth was to prove the problems of him going against the UNSC

  1. I’m sure in one of the trailers (might have been the one after a hero falls) they say that he has to be stopped from activating the Guardians and killing civilians
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> Well I have to disagree on three points.
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> 1. Blue team was AWOL after refusing to head back to Infinity so they can go to Cortana. The Chief and Locke Trailers was more Symbolic to their opinions more than canonical.
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> 2. The trailers/E3 Demo only said he was onboard the Guardian. Never that he awoke it. So that isnt really a problem. While it was implied. It was never said directly leaving it open to opinion. Plus marketing kinda went more towards him running towards a Guardian waking up. Meaning 343i stopped implying he did after E3.
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> 5. Master Chief being dead was to preserve his legacy. Him going AWOL would cause problems. Season 1 of hunt the truth was to prove the problems of him going against the UNSC

  1. I have to disagree, the Chief and Locke trailers were in no way symbolic to this, 343 were seriously making us believe they had went properly AWOL.
  2. One of the commercials said he was killing civillians and if I recall, was awakening the Guardians.
  3. While that makes sense, Hunt the Truth still felt rather pointless after the game was released.
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It was called Hunt the Truth. Sorry the truth wasn’t what you expected when you found it.

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> It was called Hunt the Truth. Sorry the truth wasn’t what you expected when you found it.

What do you mean by that? Season 1 was about hunting the truth on the Spartan II program (Or according to the animated FoR for some reason, “Orion II”), and exposing ONI’s lies. Season 2? I need to finish the last episode on that.

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> Well I have to disagree on three points.
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> 1. Blue team was AWOL after refusing to head back to Infinity so they can go to Cortana. The Chief and Locke Trailers was more Symbolic to their opinions more than canonical.

But even that isn’t true. Locke never considered the chief a betrayer or a somebody he needed to save humanity from, and John’s aren’t relevant to his opinion of Locke in the actual game.

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> > Well I have to disagree on three points.
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> > 1. Blue team was AWOL after refusing to head back to Infinity so they can go to Cortana. The Chief and Locke Trailers was more Symbolic to their opinions more than canonical.
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> > 2. The trailers/E3 Demo only said he was onboard the Guardian. Never that he awoke it. So that isnt really a problem. While it was implied. It was never said directly leaving it open to opinion. Plus marketing kinda went more towards him running towards a Guardian waking up. Meaning 343i stopped implying he did after E3.
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> > 5. Master Chief being dead was to preserve his legacy. Him going AWOL would cause problems. Season 1 of hunt the truth was to prove the problems of him going against the UNSC
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> 1. I have to disagree, the Chief and Locke trailers were in no way symbolic to this, 343 were seriously making us believe they had went properly AWOL.
> 2. One of the commercials said he was killing civillians and if I recall, was awakening the Guardians.
> 5. While that makes sense, Hunt the Truth still felt rather pointless after the game was released.

Blue Team disappeared after ignoring orders. That’s literally the definition of AWOL.

Chief ignored orders and went directly to the site of a Guardian activating. For all the UNSC knows at this point, he could have been involved in activating it, which caused massive destruction on the colony and destroyed several others as more Guardians rose. Chief disappeared with the Guardians, so he has some kind of connection. The death toll, at the moment, was being attributed to him as they tried to figure out what was happening.

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> > > Well I have to disagree on three points.
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> > > 1. Blue team was AWOL after refusing to head back to Infinity so they can go to Cortana. The Chief and Locke Trailers was more Symbolic to their opinions more than canonical.
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> > > 2. The trailers/E3 Demo only said he was onboard the Guardian. Never that he awoke it. So that isnt really a problem. While it was implied. It was never said directly leaving it open to opinion. Plus marketing kinda went more towards him running towards a Guardian waking up. Meaning 343i stopped implying he did after E3.
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> > > 5. Master Chief being dead was to preserve his legacy. Him going AWOL would cause problems. Season 1 of hunt the truth was to prove the problems of him going against the UNSC
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> > 1. I have to disagree, the Chief and Locke trailers were in no way symbolic to this, 343 were seriously making us believe they had went properly AWOL.
> > 2. One of the commercials said he was killing civillians and if I recall, was awakening the Guardians.
> > 5. While that makes sense, Hunt the Truth still felt rather pointless after the game was released.
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> Blue Team disappeared after ignoring orders. That’s literally the definition of AWOL.
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> Chief ignored orders and went directly to the site of a Guardian activating. For all the UNSC knows at this point, he could have been involved in activating it, which caused massive destruction on the colony and destroyed several others as more Guardians rose. Chief disappeared with the Guardians, so he has some kind of connection. The death toll, at the moment, was being attributed to him as they tried to figure out what was happening.

Infinity knew about the Guardians 3 weeks before the game started. Halsey told them about this.
BT was AWOL on paper but the Infinity knew exactly where they were going.

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Because Halo 3’s Believe trailer totally had a scene where Master Chief in-game was held by the neck and ready to sacrifice himself.

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> Because Halo 3’s Believe trailer totally had a scene where Master Chief in-game was held by the neck and ready to sacrifice himself.

??? He didnt sacrifice himself in that trailer.
He was passed out being shown as a trophy but then he wakes up. Then probably stickied the Brute and jumped off.

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> Infinity knew about the Guardians 3 weeks before the game started. Halsey told them about this.
> BT was AWOL on paper but the Infinity knew exactly where they were going.

Source?

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> > Because Halo 3’s Believe trailer totally had a scene where Master Chief in-game was held by the neck and ready to sacrifice himself.
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> ??? He didnt sacrifice himself in that trailer.
> He was passed out being shown as a trophy but then he wakes up. Then probably stickied the Brute and jumped off.

Jumped off what? Honestly, what are you even saying?

@OP- That’s not what “false advertisement” is. The things you say aren’t making any sense either.

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> Now, I have no hate towards the game, infact I love it, one of the greatest Halo games to date(Halo 2 by its side.), however the game had a lot of false advertisements and some faults, and in all honesty, there was no hunting our hero, or finding truth, which sadly made HtT seem pointless…
> Here’s my list on faults in the game…
>
> - Master Chief was never confirmed a traitor, nor AWOL as seen in the Chief and Locke live action trailers…
> - The Guardians were never activated by Chief, even though the commercials, trailers and even the E3 story gameplay trailer made it seem that he did…
> - The lack of Blue Team was saddening and what 343 said was false. We only had 3 missions for Blue Team, and Osiris got 12… It was never balanced like 343 said it was going to be.
> - When I saw the brand new Co-Op, I actually thought it would have an online Co-Op, which I thought wrong… It would have made more sense for the removal of Split-Screen.
> - The Master Chief dead? A pointless thing to do, and it made no sense to the actual story whatsoever…
> - The REQ system was a HUGE mistake… The level up and receive either armour or a visor in the Beta was much better. They could of had the REQ system work like Halo: Reach and Halo 4’s credit system. Reach a certain level, have the proper amount of credits, buy your armour. “Were it so easy”. . .
> - From what I have heard, since I am still collecting the skulls and intel, you don’t even recieve ANYTHING for getting everything? Not even by completing Legendary difficulty?
> - The lack of Thel 'Vadam was also disappointing, especially when he basically wasn’t really important to the story either…
> Well that’s my thoughts and opinion on H5. Let me know on what you think of the game and let me know if I missed anything.
> I might be doing the same thing for the Fall of Reach animated series, let me know if I should post that too!

I love idea number 4, but recently I’ve been hearing that chances are that it’s just a way to get people to buy micro transactions. Which chances are I will be doing my self. My aim is for the locus helmet. But I really do love that idea.

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> Because Halo 3’s Believe trailer totally had a scene where Master Chief in-game was held by the neck and ready to sacrifice himself.

Now you’re just being silly, that’s not false adverstisement.

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> > Infinity knew about the Guardians 3 weeks before the game started. Halsey told them about this.
> > BT was AWOL on paper but the Infinity knew exactly where they were going.
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> > > Because Halo 3’s Believe trailer totally had a scene where Master Chief in-game was held by the neck and ready to sacrifice himself.
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> > ??? He didnt sacrifice himself in that trailer.
> > He was passed out being shown as a trophy but then he wakes up. Then probably stickied the Brute and jumped off.
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> Jumped off what? Honestly, what are you even saying?
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> @OP- That’s not what “false advertisement” is. The things you say aren’t making any sense either.

The source was literally in the beginning of the campaign, and if I recall, also in some Escalation comics but don’t quote me on that.

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> > Now, I have no hate towards the game, infact I love it, one of the greatest Halo games to date(Halo 2 by its side.), however the game had a lot of false advertisements and some faults, and in all honesty, there was no hunting our hero, or finding truth, which sadly made HtT seem pointless…
> > Here’s my list on faults in the game…
> >
> > - Master Chief was never confirmed a traitor, nor AWOL as seen in the Chief and Locke live action trailers…
> > - The Guardians were never activated by Chief, even though the commercials, trailers and even the E3 story gameplay trailer made it seem that he did…
> > - The lack of Blue Team was saddening and what 343 said was false. We only had 3 missions for Blue Team, and Osiris got 12… It was never balanced like 343 said it was going to be.
> > - When I saw the brand new Co-Op, I actually thought it would have an online Co-Op, which I thought wrong… It would have made more sense for the removal of Split-Screen.
> > - The Master Chief dead? A pointless thing to do, and it made no sense to the actual story whatsoever…
> > - The REQ system was a HUGE mistake… The level up and receive either armour or a visor in the Beta was much better. They could of had the REQ system work like Halo: Reach and Halo 4’s credit system. Reach a certain level, have the proper amount of credits, buy your armour. “Were it so easy”. . .
> > - From what I have heard, since I am still collecting the skulls and intel, you don’t even recieve ANYTHING for getting everything? Not even by completing Legendary difficulty?
> > - The lack of Thel 'Vadam was also disappointing, especially when he basically wasn’t really important to the story either…
> > Well that’s my thoughts and opinion on H5. Let me know on what you think of the game and let me know if I missed anything.
> > I might be doing the same thing for the Fall of Reach animated series, let me know if I should post that too!
>
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> I love idea number 4, but recently I’ve been hearing that chances are that it’s just a way to get people to buy micro transactions. Which chances are I will be doing my self. My aim is for the locus helmet. But I really do love that idea.

It is, sadly. But either way, getting REQ points or buying them, no skill. Just a “Oh you got lucky!”… Props to 343 though, we’re getting if I recall, 30-40 free maps and armour. Once Mark IV and V come out, I might buy some REQ’s, though.

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Many Halo’s have had advertising that never affected the game halo 2 has several. I love Bee’s never has any impact on halo 2. The advertising for Halo 2 consisted as John deffending earth. Your on earth for two missions. Halo 3 had believe which was all propaganda which you could chalk some of Guardians ads to. Halo 3 had IRIS which basically consisted of the terminals and thats it.

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> Many Halo’s have had advertising that never affected the game halo 2 has several. I love Bee’s never has any impact on halo 2. The advertising for Halo 2 consisted as John deffending earth. Your on earth for two missions. Halo 3 had believe which was all propaganda which you could chalk some of Guardians ads to. Halo 3 had IRIS which basically consisted of the terminals and thats it.

I love Bee’s didn’t affect the story of Halo unlike the Guardians advertising. The rest, is logical and have points, though.

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> > Many Halo’s have had advertising that never affected the game halo 2 has several. I love Bee’s never has any impact on halo 2. The advertising for Halo 2 consisted as John deffending earth. Your on earth for two missions. Halo 3 had believe which was all propaganda which you could chalk some of Guardians ads to. Halo 3 had IRIS which basically consisted of the terminals and thats it.
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> I love Bee’s didn’t affect the story of Halo unlike the Guardians advertising. The rest, is logical and have points, though.

For I Love Bees. Its still canon though. And you could view it as a prequel to Halo 2. Plus AI rampancy was majorly first brought up in that(it was mentioned but not in such great detail as ILB’s). Something a lot of Halo media tend to use now. So I would say I Love bees does have a part in the bigger Halo story.

And regardless. Halo 5’s marketing and it being false. Technically nope. Technically yes in the case of the Locke trailers.

The first few marketing stuff related to it are more symbolic till Hunt the Truth pops by.

Technically Marketing. The Halo 2A prologue and Epilogue is mainly just announcing that the Chief is AWOL with other stuff that relate to the Sanghelios missions.

Hunt the Truth Season 1 shows what could happen if the Master Chief went AWOL in the Eyes of the public. With hints of the Guardians throughout.

The “Bullet”, “All Hail”, and “The Cost” Trailers are more symbolic. They were never gonna happen in Halo 5. Regardless the trailers add to the bullet trailer with why is Master Chief AWOL and what were his motives.(as we did actually know he was AWOL we just didnt know why)
They were also to build up Hunt the Truth Season 1 more(seeing as they were linked on the Hunt the truth Blog also). As it was all about finding the truth on John-117 and him being placed as a Traitor during the actual season then to have his name cleared. So I believe these trailers are safe.

Hunt the Signal despite being a competition actually has the most that effect Halo 5’s story directly. With Locke asking a few AI’s to research Mjolnir Armor for weaknesses(leading to the creation of the Armor locking thing in Halo 5). And also to go into Halsey’s archive. Leading to the earliest note of the Guardians awaking.

The E3 demo showed Osiris going after a Guardian in Sunion with Master Chief on Board. Its obvious that this is close to the final build. Bar the thing that Chief was on the Guardian.
Also to remember this was a early build after all so we do have to remember that also if we discuss this.

Season 2 has more closer links to Halo 5. (for obvious reasons as the Guardians are awaking, but is still separate as noting actually effects the story of Halo 5.)

The final two trailers are fully canon.
A Hero falls is two things.

  1. Is the obvious Master Chief is declared dead to the Public. To keep his legacy alive.
  2. Blue team running to the Teleport area in Meridian Station, while the Guardian prepares to awake.(I assume Osiris is getting to or is fighting the Warden as this point as there is quakes)

The Hunt Begins is pretty much Osiris getting to Meridian before the Meridian set of missions start properly.
The line “and he’s setting these things loose.” makes sense, Vale seems genuinely surprised when she heard Cortana’s name in Halo 5. And I don’t remember seeing Osiris getting told Cortana was involved. Meaning that even Osiris didn’t get told everything, they were just told capture these assets. We just assumed they knew as we heard it in the Cut-scene previously.
Plus Cortana was a big moment ruining that would ruin a lot of the game if revealed. So it was hiding that in a way that still wasnt a problem canonically. Though I can see why people view it as false despite it having a sound reason for it. Is ruining the story worth it?

So yea everything is canonically sound marketing wise.

The Marketing was more about Chief being AWOL more than him being evil. And well Hunt the Truth in general has little effect on Halo 5.

Its more the Locke/Osiris point of view trailers that I can see the false thoughts coming from. Despite good reasons for them.