Armor coatings
Grapple hooks
Even more advanced movement systems
Leaving playable elites out yet again
Etc…
It’s looking like Infinite might just be another reclaimer halo instead of the reboot to its roots that 343i advertised it as. Guess we will see. Dont pre order, get it on gamepass.
You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
Even if you get it on game pass that still boosts population numbers.
Best thing to do if you’re inclined to a civil protest of the game is don’t play it at all. Don’t download it, don’t pre order it, just keep it out of your life. That’s the best way to show our dissatisfaction.
But I won’t stop you, if you want to play this game that’s your decision. Just know both sides and make your choice.
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> You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
Providing feedback and noticing/announcing a negative trend of the devs is overreacting? Overreacting would be something like “OMG 343 IS TRASH!! THEY HATE HALO!! HUR DER!”
Also, since 1 game “ruined” the game for a majority of people means that we should just let negative trends continue without bringing it up? How does that make sense? Thatd be like getting served moldy food and having to accept it the first time but since you now have had moldy food once then it’s ok and you shouldnt say something when it happens another 3 times afterwards.
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> Even if you get it on game pass that still boosts population numbers.
>
> Best thing to do if you’re inclined to a civil protest of the game is don’t play it at all. Don’t download it, don’t pre order it, just keep it out of your life. That’s the best way to show our dissatisfaction.
>
> But I won’t stop you, if you want to play this game that’s your decision. Just know both sides and make your choice.
Yes the population numbers will still be there but 343 won’t receive the $60, or whatever their cut is, of the game sale.
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> You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
10 years of hoping only to get nothing isn’t overreacting. We’ve been largely ignored because we weren’t the majority.
And as for Reach ruining things, yes you are correct. Reach changed many things, but compared to what Halo 4, 5, and now Infinite have changed Reach looks pretty retro as far as most are concerned.
As I said before, must we always ignore the minority opinion for the sake of a unanimous majority? I’m sure something in your life is worth defending even though few people enjoy it as much as you. Doesn’t it cross you when someone doesn’t see the value in your minority opinion and shrugs you away as unimportant?
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> Even more advanced movement systems
Don’t make stuff up if you want to be taken seriously.
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> > You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
>
> Providing feedback and noticing/announcing a negative trend of the devs is overreacting? Overreacting would be something like “OMG 343 IS TRASH!! THEY HATE HALO!! HUR DER!”
>
> Also, since 1 game “ruined” the game for a majority of people means that we should just let negative trends continue without bringing it up? How does that make sense? Thatd be like getting served moldy food and having to accept it the first time but since you now have had moldy food once then it’s ok and you shouldnt say something when it happens another 3 times afterwards.
I get it, but if that feedback doesn’t align with a critical thing like competitive fairness in their view it doesn’t add value to the game. Your example isn’t even close to the comparison in this case. Having a playable elite doesn’t ruin the experience for the majority of players.
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> > You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
>
> 10 years of hoping only to get nothing isn’t overreacting. We’ve been largely ignored because we weren’t the majority.
>
> And as for Reach ruining things, yes you are correct. Reach changed many things, but compared to what Halo 4, 5, and now Infinite have changed Reach looks pretty retro as far as most are concerned.
>
> As I said before, must we always ignore the minority opinion for the sake of a unanimous majority? I’m sure something in your life is worth defending even though few people enjoy it as much as you. Doesn’t it cross you when someone doesn’t see the value in your minority opinion and shrugs you away as unimportant?
I am stating this for launch as well. Having this for launch shouldn’t be a priority. Adding it for customs after makes sense, but they are trying to bring back the franchise first.
The reasons for not having them for me makes logical sense.
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> > > 2533274792737987;2:
> > > You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
> >
> > 10 years of hoping only to get nothing isn’t overreacting. We’ve been largely ignored because we weren’t the majority.
> >
> > And as for Reach ruining things, yes you are correct. Reach changed many things, but compared to what Halo 4, 5, and now Infinite have changed Reach looks pretty retro as far as most are concerned.
> >
> > As I said before, must we always ignore the minority opinion for the sake of a unanimous majority? I’m sure something in your life is worth defending even though few people enjoy it as much as you. Doesn’t it cross you when someone doesn’t see the value in your minority opinion and shrugs you away as unimportant?
>
> I am stating this for launch as well. Having this for launch shouldn’t be a priority. Adding it for customs after makes sense, but they are trying to bring back the franchise first.
>
> The reasons for not having them for me makes logical sense.
> - Cosmetics would have to be divisive which requires more overhead on designs and skins. - Multiplayer would have to have overhead to remove them from competitive play which adds more fuel to the fire. - The studio is just focusing on Master Chief again who is a…Spartan. - The main story is about how Spartans save humanity. - It is highly possible the Covenant do not play as big as a role in this game as Halo 3 and Reach. - The minority plays them for the two games they were in
My solution to these problems: don’t make a system that largely ignores the possibility of playable Elites to begin with. It’s too late for this now, but they had plenty of years to design something more inclusive.
Even if it were just like Reach where customs Forge, and maybe campaign were the only place they were usuable, why couldn’t that be done? That’s already better then nothing. Granted I’m sure complaints would still funnel in that they are not putting appropriate respect to the feature, but it’s still a start.
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> > > > 2533274792737987;2:
> > > > You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
> > >
> > > 10 years of hoping only to get nothing isn’t overreacting. We’ve been largely ignored because we weren’t the majority.
> > >
> > > And as for Reach ruining things, yes you are correct. Reach changed many things, but compared to what Halo 4, 5, and now Infinite have changed Reach looks pretty retro as far as most are concerned.
> > >
> > > As I said before, must we always ignore the minority opinion for the sake of a unanimous majority? I’m sure something in your life is worth defending even though few people enjoy it as much as you. Doesn’t it cross you when someone doesn’t see the value in your minority opinion and shrugs you away as unimportant?
> >
> > I am stating this for launch as well. Having this for launch shouldn’t be a priority. Adding it for customs after makes sense, but they are trying to bring back the franchise first.
> >
> > The reasons for not having them for me makes logical sense.
> > - Cosmetics would have to be divisive which requires more overhead on designs and skins. - Multiplayer would have to have overhead to remove them from competitive play which adds more fuel to the fire. - The studio is just focusing on Master Chief again who is a…Spartan. - The main story is about how Spartans save humanity. - It is highly possible the Covenant do not play as big as a role in this game as Halo 3 and Reach. - The minority plays them for the two games they were in
>
> My solution to these problems: don’t make a system that largely ignores the possibility of playable Elites to begin with. It’s too late for this now, but they had plenty of years to design something more inclusive.
>
> Even if it were just like Reach where customs Forge, and maybe campaign were the only place they were usuable, why couldn’t that be done? That’s already better then nothing. Granted I’m sure complaints would still funnel in that they are not putting appropriate respect to the feature, but it’s still a start.
343i didn’t make Halo 3 or Reach. They have their own design philosophy and they didn’t completely rule it out. If the outrage was large enough they will listen, but it isn’t because not that many people play as Elites. Adding Elites would ruin their model for the cosmetic items and that makes perfect sense.
This “I won’t play this game unless it has Elites” is ridiculous. It seems like clout chasing because they will still play the game, and only a very very few amount of people won’t because of this.
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> > Even if you get it on game pass that still boosts population numbers.
> >
> > Best thing to do if you’re inclined to a civil protest of the game is don’t play it at all. Don’t download it, don’t pre order it, just keep it out of your life. That’s the best way to show our dissatisfaction.
> >
> > But I won’t stop you, if you want to play this game that’s your decision. Just know both sides and make your choice.
>
> Yes the population numbers will still be there but 343 won’t receive the $60, or whatever their cut is, of the game sale.
You’re right, they won’t get the $60 from the game sale, but they’ll get their share of the gamepass revenue. Whether you pre order or play on gamepass you’re paying. I love how players think gamepass games are free, stop paying for gamepass and see what you’re left to play.
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> > > > > 2533274792737987;2:
> > > > > You all are overreacting so hard. This is nothing compared to what Halo 2/3 players had to deal with when Halo Reach multiplayer ruined the game for the majority of us.
> > > >
> > > > 10 years of hoping only to get nothing isn’t overreacting. We’ve been largely ignored because we weren’t the majority.
> > > >
> > > > And as for Reach ruining things, yes you are correct. Reach changed many things, but compared to what Halo 4, 5, and now Infinite have changed Reach looks pretty retro as far as most are concerned.
> > > >
> > > > As I said before, must we always ignore the minority opinion for the sake of a unanimous majority? I’m sure something in your life is worth defending even though few people enjoy it as much as you. Doesn’t it cross you when someone doesn’t see the value in your minority opinion and shrugs you away as unimportant?
> > >
> > > I am stating this for launch as well. Having this for launch shouldn’t be a priority. Adding it for customs after makes sense, but they are trying to bring back the franchise first.
> > >
> > > The reasons for not having them for me makes logical sense.
> > > - Cosmetics would have to be divisive which requires more overhead on designs and skins. - Multiplayer would have to have overhead to remove them from competitive play which adds more fuel to the fire. - The studio is just focusing on Master Chief again who is a…Spartan. - The main story is about how Spartans save humanity. - It is highly possible the Covenant do not play as big as a role in this game as Halo 3 and Reach. - The minority plays them for the two games they were in
> >
> > My solution to these problems: don’t make a system that largely ignores the possibility of playable Elites to begin with. It’s too late for this now, but they had plenty of years to design something more inclusive.
> >
> > Even if it were just like Reach where customs Forge, and maybe campaign were the only place they were usuable, why couldn’t that be done? That’s already better then nothing. Granted I’m sure complaints would still funnel in that they are not putting appropriate respect to the feature, but it’s still a start.
>
> 343i didn’t make Halo 3 or Reach. They have their own design philosophy and they didn’t completely rule it out. If the outrage was large enough they will listen, but it isn’t because not that many people play as Elites. Adding Elites would ruin their model for the cosmetic items and that makes perfect sense.
>
> This “I won’t play this game unless it has Elites” is ridiculous. It seems like clout chasing because they will still play the game, and only a very very few amount of people won’t because of this.
While I personally don’t care about playing dinos, This “adding elites would ruin their model for cosmetics” is a joke.
It is literally giving them more ways to monetize skins if they had elites in the game lmfao.
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> Armor coatings
> Grapple hooks
uhhh, neither of these were in H5
> Even more advanced movement systems
what are the additional systems cause ive seen less
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> Armor coatings
> Grapple hooks
> Even more advanced movement systems
> Leaving playable elites out yet again
> Etc…
>
> It’s looking like Infinite might just be another reclaimer halo instead of the reboot to its roots that 343i advertised it as. Guess we will see. Dont pre order, get it on gamepass.
Lets take a look at the distinction between the two games and what we know so far. I’m assuming this topic is regarding the multiplayer as the issues you’ve highlighted fall in the multiplayer.
Halo Infinite (Multiplayer):
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> > Armor coatings
> > Grapple hooks
> > Even more advanced movement systems
> > Leaving playable elites out yet again
> > Etc…
> >
> > It’s looking like Infinite might just be another reclaimer halo instead of the reboot to its roots that 343i advertised it as. Guess we will see. Dont pre order, get it on gamepass.
>
> Lets take a look at the distinction between the two games and what we know so far. I’m assuming this topic is regarding the multiplayer as the issues you’ve highlighted fall in the multiplayer.
>
> Halo Infinite (Multiplayer):
> - Grapplehook is a pick up in multiplayer, while thrust is a base mechanic, (At the very least it helps facilitate the sandbox) - I’m a bit confused on where you got more advanced movements from, sprint has been slowed down compared to H5, thrusters, stabilizers, spartan charge, and ground pound have all been removed. - Seeing playable elites being left out in the entirety of 343’s franchises at launch of the game is disappointing but if it eases your concerns 343 stated that “Never say Never” - Generally I feel pretty meh about armor coatings but according to Community Manager John “Unyshek” armor coatings will be allowed to be earned through gameplay or special rewards. - The artstyle in Halo Infinite is substantially different compared to H5
By “even more advanced movement” I meant that they are here again. Not that we have more than Halo 5. My mistake on that clarity issue, we do have less than 5 but really we just traded the thruster system for a grapple hook.
I dont really mind armor coatings, my issue is they saw the feedback and ignored it. The only info they gave us was they are earnable after thousands stated it’s a terrible system and wanted 343 to give something to ease the distaste. It’s the same with playable elites. It’s the most requested feature since 343 took over, maybe tied with sprint removal but I like sprint. But all they gave us was “eh maybe” which is probably a no, if I’m being honest.
You know i feel the early trailers from probably marketing team give us too much hype and then when we get the real game it is different like we imagined it.
For H5 trailers we thought there was gonna be Chief vs Locke deadly fight,we got nothing like this.
Then Infinite trailer looked like we got hostile wildlife,more realistic graphics,again the demo looked H5 gameplay.Now confirmed no hostile wildlife while there are Rhynos,Blind Wolves on Zeta Halo.
Then for years wanted playable Elites,not listening to community.Also i now have zero expectations of Flood being in game.
So i agree Halo 5:2 teen rating game.
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> .Also i now have zero expectations of Flood being in game.
> So i agree Halo 5:2 teen rating game.
Oh I definitly doubt Flood will be in the game. They pretty much were the main reason why Halos 1-3 were rated M. Unless they dumb down the flood significantly, then I dont see how they can be added with a T rating with Gore.
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> - Multiplayer would have to have overhead to remove them from competitive play which adds more fuel to the fire. - The studio is just focusing on Master Chief again who is a…Spartan. - The main story is about how Spartans save humanity. - It is highly possible the Covenant do not play as big as a role in this game as Halo 3 and Reach. - The minority plays them for the two games they were in - Why would Elites be sparring again Spartans?
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I’ve seen some inaccurate forums before but this kind of takes the cake. To each their own though.