This is meant as a thread for 343 to look at and consider but I’d also love to hear what the rest of you think on these suggestions. I’d also like to hear any of your feedback/suggestions on this subject as well!
I also have other topics on the rest of the enemies but altogether it was too big so I’ve separated them into their own topics to keep in line with the letter limit.
First off, I really like the improvements 343 has made to the enemies in Halo 5. I’m going to mention Halo Reach a lot in these various threads but this is because this is when most of the Covenant was at their prime gameplay wise. Granted, this game only had Covenant enemies and no Flood or Forerunner/Prometheans so it makes sense this would be the case.
I know the team is plagued by time/game restraints but if most of these features could be added upon each other over time then that would be amazing! (because I gotta face that not all of these are gonna be added all at once in one game)
Elites
Overall this is a solid enemy and a good soldier alien that is not much unlike yourself. However, I have a couple gripes about their current condition that at the moment make them feel like just your average space soldier.
One of the biggest problems I currently have with the elites is how much their sword wielders are complete cowards as of Halo 4 and following into Halo 5. They need a complete re-work to bring them to the scariness level that the Halo Reach sword wielders were. Whenever I saw an energy-sword wielding Elite in Halo Reach I got the emotion of (Oh ‘yoink’ run!!!). Sadly I have to say that the current energy-sword wielders don’t instill that same fear that its predecessors did. Also, they could probably use some invisibility at times. Whether or not this turns the sword invisible would be totally up to you guys of course. Maybe their could be some sort of in-between? Where it will appear vaguely for a couple moments then disappear again.
This leads me into my next point. It feels as if invisible Elites have all but disappeared in Halo 5. Unless 343 has completely revamped their tech and those Elites just can’t be seen anymore… You know what, that would explain some of my unexplainable deaths during campaign! All jokes aside, this is something that made the Elites a unique and fun enemy to fight. Without the Elite’s former glory of energy swords and cloaking they now feel like a shadow of their former selves and I can’t simply stand by and not say anything about it.
Maybe even allow some Elites to pull out a sword or turn invisible when losing their shield! Or both!?
Another thing I’d like to see Elites sometimes utilize is combat rolls and evasive maneuvers in ground battles. This is something I’d like to either see in any higher ranking elite than a blue one or on higher difficulties like Heroic/Legendary. I believe if needed, energy sword elites should even use these tactics as they need effective ways to close the gap.
I also believe some Elites should be willing enough to use Human vehicles. They obviously have the ability. Just look at Halo 3 when they were your allies!
I think you have a lot of good ideas here. I feel like there should be feared again. The invisibility for this game is awesome, you can barely see the enemy unless you focus while they moved. What might make it fair is them having this only if the energy sword ones. while having the enemy wield a great array of weapons. Since the lore is there, you can even have them carry some of the UNSC weapons now too, opening them to the whole array that we have to offer.
<mark>Just a friendly note that this is NOT the thread to talk about Elites being playable in game. There’s a whole separate thread for that and if this gets derailed, we’ll have to lock it.</mark>
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> Reach’s sword elites weren’t scary or intimidating. You could jump right over them and beat them down, making them quite easy to kill.
Even so, the Energy Sword elites should be at least at the level of the Halo Reach ones. On top of that, they should make it so the Elite has a way of dealing with pesky jumping cyborg bunnies!
Honestly 343 just needs to make 2 elite models.
One for enemy elites, they keep the look they have.
And then one for SoS. They have the classic look but a new “refreshed” classic armor.
As far as behavior 343 got the idea. Id much rather they take on more player like actions since they are the best pve enemy for new players to learn how to fight from.
Why are they like 11 feet tall now? In Halo 3, MC and the Arbiter stood at about the same height. Now, you put Spartans next to the Arbiter and other Elites, and they Elites TOWER above them. I know the Spartans are a little taller/bigger than normal humans, but I thought they were about the same size at the Elites. 343, stop giving us disjointed weirdness. Keep it consistent.
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> Why are they like 11 feet tall now? In Halo 3, MC and the Arbiter stood at about the same height. Now, you put Spartans next to the Arbiter and other Elites, and they Elites TOWER above them. I know the Spartans are a little taller/bigger than normal humans, but I thought they were about the same size at the Elites. 343, stop giving us disjointed weirdness. Keep it consistent.
You know they were always that height? Bungie had the dumb idea of making them go through the dryer and then give them back problems just so they were the same height as Spartans. Look at Halo Wars cutscenes and Halo Reach. Elites have been towering over Spartans for quite a while.
Oh and just a friendly reminder; 343 are 117 times more consistent than Bungie. cough Reach cough