One thing proves that this game is not compettive, not skill based and not even any better than Call of duty and that it; the pistol.
It doesn’t matter what game it is in A PISTOL is and should be a suppot weapon. BUT that’s not the case. With good aim, and strafe the Pistol caan outshot, the assault rifle, the BR NAD even the DMR. This should not be accaptable and it baffles me how many people are okay with this. why pick up a br or dmr when the pistol is just as good??
The pistol is overpowered given the class of weapon it is. It’s a pistol, a support weapon. It should be an emergency weapon such as you cant reload fast enough so you switch to it. and by some logic on these forums we might as well give the shitgun BR range and damage.
My suggestion, which would not break it are as followed
A;decrease rate of fire by 8-13%
B; require pistol to take 1-2 shots to kill someone who is at full health and shields.
C: increase clip size and fire rate dramatically BUT nerf damage to compensate.
this would make the pistol what A pistol is for. not a mini DMR
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> One thing proves that this game is not compettive, not skill based and not even any better than Call of duty and that it; the pistol.
Stopped reading there because it became abundantly clear you have no idea what makes a game competitive.
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coming into this with no constructive feedback or opinion is a complete waste of time. your deflection though is intriguing. Did I hit a nerve calling the pistol out??
The pistol should take one more shot to kill. It could still put up a fight against precision weapons, but it wouldn’t be able to easily outgun said weapons and would make players be more likely to swap it for something better
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> bet you did. Op pistol is OP kid
Git gud is really the only thing worth saying to you.
If you don’t know how to use the pistol well in H5 you are a bad Halo player. Don’t try to change the fundamentals of Halo because you suck at them. Halo has ALWAYS been a mid ranged game with mid ranged utility starts. CE pistol, H2 BR, H3 BR, Reach DMR, H4 BR/DMR, H5 pistol. You are the problem, not the pistol.
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> The pistol should take one more shot to kill. It could still put up a fight against precision weapons, but it wouldn’t be able to easily outgun said weapons and would make players be more likely to swap it for something better
exacty this was my first proposal months ago and I got flamed so hard it was sad. but you know pople like their OP weapons
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> If you don’t know how to use the pistol well in H5 you are a bad Halo player. Don’t try to change the fundamentals of Halo because you suck at them. Halo has ALWAYS been a mid ranged game with mid ranged utility starts. CE pistol, H2 BR, H3 BR, Reach DMR, H4 BR/DMR, H5 pistol. You are the problem, not the pistol.
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and you sir are blind… do you know what a side arm is?? a pistol yes good job. a pistol is a support weapon. Not a min rifle. read a book
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> > If you don’t know how to use the pistol well in H5 you are a bad Halo player. Don’t try to change the fundamentals of Halo because you suck at them. Halo has ALWAYS been a mid ranged game with mid ranged utility starts. CE pistol, H2 BR, H3 BR, Reach DMR, H4 BR/DMR, H5 pistol. You are the problem, not the pistol.
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> and you sir are blind… do you know what a side arm is?? a pistol yes good job. a pistol is a support weapon. Not a min rifle. read a book
If the appearance of the gun is your only argument then you already lost. This isn’t COD where the pistols are all useless trash. Play Halo CE or go away.
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> and you sir are blind… do you know what a side arm is?? a pistol yes good job. a pistol is a support weapon. Not a min rifle. read a book
the realistic use of a weapon has nothing to do with the competitive nature of the game containing it.
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you people are still NOT answering the question. WHY have power weapons, why have a dmr why have a BR if the pistol is JUST AS STRONG?? and not once did I say I couldn’t hold my own against a pistol that you people putting words on here to make me look less credible… answer those questions and I’ll leave it alone ya but you wont because you can’t. you just love your OP pistol
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> If you get outgunned by a pistol using a br/dmr, you deserve to get killed. Git gud scrub
This x 1000
Yeah a pistol can outshoot a BR/DMR but the only way that happens is if the pistol user is more SKILLED than the BR/DMR user. You killed your argument in the first sentence.
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NO where. NO WHERE in my post said anything about not being able to dodge a pistol. you people twist every word even if it’s not thee to fit your agenda. So ya sorry I guess I’m not neo. you people are blind, and I cant wait to see the looks on your face when they do nerf the pistol in some wya
The pistol is one of the reasons why this game IS competitive and balanced. The BR and DMR are still better in the right hands, but the pistol can outgun them as well, just depends on the user. I wouldn’t mind some different slayer variants that past halos have used (BR/DMR starts rather than the pistol). Would still be competitive and just mix up the gameplay a little bit.
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> NO where. NO WHERE in my post said anything about not being able to dodge a pistol. you people twist every word even if it’s not thee to fit your agenda. So ya sorry I guess I’m not neo. you people are blind, and I cant wait to see the looks on your face when they do nerf the pistol in some wya
Well you are asking for nerfs that are not needed so it’s safe to assume you got your -Yoink- manhandled several times by skilled pistol users lel.
Are you a longtime Halo fan? Because it sure doesn’t sound like it. It honestly sounds like you’re a bottom tier “competitive” gamer who thought they could wreck the (thematically) more casual folks of Halo 5. Now, if you would hearken back to the days of Halo CE, the pistol was arguably the best weapon. The fact that the gun looks like a pistol makes no difference in the halo universe. It could be the size of a tank and still be your sidearm and still be the exact same power level. In your other highly unnecessary thread, you also said this,
“I agree, the pistol idoes not fit Halo’s game mechanics. this is a pistol sraight out og call of duty. anyone for this pistol should sell halo and play COD, where they belong”
Now. If we take that statement and apply it this comment:
> and you sir are blind… do you know what a side arm is?? a pistol yes good job. a pistol is a support weapon. Not a min rifle. read a book
Then you contradict yourself. Sidearms in call of duty do exactly what you say, they are support weapons that you switch to in desperate times. Normally I don’t nitpick posts but here are my issues:
For the love of god, spelling and grammar. How hard is it to type “pistol” instead of “pistiol” and other such words. If you have time to write on this site, you have time to proofread.
Your ignorant attitude and general dismissiveness of others. Have some respect and maybe others would respect you.
You sound like a whiny child. Word your post in an educated manner and people are statistically more likely to read and respond in a like manner. Instead, you took the “type as furiously and angrily as possible” route.
To actually answer your question, here are the cons of the Magnum (not pistol):
its range is lacking. Not that the bullet wont reach that far, it is just that it becomes harder to hit.
Its smart-link also is for close range.
It is a skill intensive weapon. With its slower fire rate, dependency on hitting your target (with the BR you can afford to not aim directly at your opponent) and slow reload/ammo capacity, the Magnum lasts precisely as long as it needs to.
Anyway, “Not skill based” followed by “With good aim, and strafe” makes me wonder what you think skill is, because according to you neither aiming nor strafing are part of a players skill… Just saying that if you say a weapon can do something IF someone has a certain set of skills, that is by definition skill based.
The BR has a lower TTK; If you are getting beaten by a guy using a pistol, he is playing better than you. As for the DMR, the DMR has a far greater effective range, meaning that it will have aim assist at a longer range.
Right now the competitive community is saying that it should be buffed, because it’s both the most skillful precision weapon and the weakest one, which makes no sense. I mean -Yoinks!- sake, are you even aware that the DMR is a straight upgrade in every way?
Meanwhile, here you are claiming that it should be further nerfed into uselessness because “its a sidearm”. That argument doesn’t even make sense. Aesthetics have nothing to do with competitive merit. What, would it suddenly be “balanced” if all they did was reskin it as a rifle? The stats are all that matter.
> Support Weapon
…is not a valid role in the context you’re using it in. Any other weapon is just as good at being a support weapon if not better, so what would even be the point of having the Pistol in the game?
BR is better than pistol, takes less hits to kill. DMR has longer range for autoaim/magnetism, making it better. Pistol can beat an AR with SKILL, not just “strafe and good aim”
Havent you already posted a post complaining about the pistol?
Also you apparently dont understand an arena shooter. ALL let me repeat ALL weapons should be able to out shoot eachother in either the right hands or right situation. You even said
> With good aim, and strafe the Pistol caan outshot, the assault rifle, the BR NAD even the DMR
first off your spelling is terrible, second the fact that it takes good aim and a well paced strafe contradicts your claim that the pistol takes no skill to use. The pistol is not ideal in all situation, long range will always be dominated by the DMR the pistol just cannot provide a clear enough line of sight, the DMR if all shot land will beat the pistol in medium range, the pistol is usless if a player misses just one shot with it which happens quite often. Pistol kills are only a result of good aim and other player incompetance in not landing their hits with superior weapons.
An arena shooter means all weapons are viable and all because your mad that an apparent sidearm can stand up against better weapons in the the right hands shows you have know idea what genre halo even really is.