Hello everyone!
I know a lot of people are up in arms about bloom returning to some of the weapons in Halo 4 (at least the DMR and Magnum) and I wanted to try and get some healthy discussion going related to the Magnum’s usage of bloom.
I feel that keeping the magnum’s bloom feature is an excellent and well thought out idea. Since we are having the DMR, BR, and magnum in one sandbox, the magnum without bloom would just feel like a DMR/BR with less ammo capacity. This would render it worthless seeing as we can now start with those weapons.
The magnum in Reach (for me anyway) had been perfect.
In long range combat, it couldn’t dominate the map; it’s bloom made it useless to try to both take down shields AND headshot. You could still pull off the headshot, but you had to take the opposing players’ shields down first with another weapon. Since I was wielding a pistol, not a rifle, this made sense. I don’t want a CE god pistol.
In close range, the pistol IMO was one of the best weapons, ranking just below the sword and shotgun. You could allow the reticle to expand with a quick ROF since your enemy was close, and then finish off with a headshot. The small clip encouraged lining up that last headshot: you couldn’t just spam and hope for the best. Your ammo would soon be depleted.
Overall, it was a great sidearm. Perfect for close quarters, and still effective at long range, but only if the opponents shields were down first. The only way that can still be accomplished in H4 is to keep the pistol, bloom and all, from Reach. Or else you risk getting the super powerful CE pistol, or the worthless Halo 2 pistol. Both of which I do not wish upon Halo’s future.
Does anyone else love the Reach pistol? Anyone hate it? Don’t care? If so, why?
I really like the Reach Pistol, but I’ve never really got a lot of kills from it (except in Anniversary playlists). For me it just never punched through like the DMR.
I’m happy that the Pistol will return to H4 and I really don’t mind that it has bloom. My issue is that its a 6 shot kill and from the sounds of it is meant to be a close-mid range weapon like in Reach. Surely the 8 round magazine will have to be changed as in combat it would quite likely that a player wouldn’t land all of his shots on an enemy and therefore might not kill them off before having to reload, and if thats the case then why would I ever use it? The idea that a weapon can barely kill an enemy in one magazine is just crazy considering that we have weapons like Shotguns and Snipers and BRs/DMRs that can mow down a lot of people before reloading.
Even if its rate of fire is extremely fast this mag capacity is its major weakness, I just am a bit puzzled by such a small magazine. Surely that must be a temporary thing…
> Bloom is back? where did you hear this? i remember 343 clearly stating that Bloom would not return to H4, but recoil will.
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> 343 is full of a bunch of liers
343 allowed people to playtest the game, and a bloomed DMR and magnum has been said to exist from different play testers. There were a bunch of topics about it up a little bit ago, I believe Luis Wu was his name. Also Killa KC (sp?) from MLG.
> Bloom is back? where did you hear this? i remember 343 clearly stating that Bloom would not return to H4, but recoil will.
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> 343 is full of a bunch of liers
apparently some mlg guy says there is and if that is the case screw halo and all the potential that it had.
Yeah really liked the pistol in reach, but the clip size was just too damn small imo…an extra 2-3 bullets per clip would of made a world of difference, i usually dropped my pistol for the dmr simply because of the better clip size
Let’s not start the screw Halo thing. Everyone who has played hasn’t denounced the game yet, why should we? Bloom may have been a little off in Reach for some people, but some weapons (especially the magnum) benefited from it. Maybe not the DMR, but definitely the magnum. At least in my opinion. I have reasons stated in the OP.
I’d rather have Halo 2’s side-arm like pistol that was never meant to contend with the rifles, but as a weapon that you can finish people off with in the event your primary weapon runs out.
The Reach pistol with bloom is awful. The H4 pistol with bloom and an extra shot to kill will be even worse. Might as well just bring back the H2 pistol if 343 wants to nerf it that bad.
> The Reach pistol with bloom is awful. The H4 pistol with bloom and an extra shot to kill will be even worse. Might as well just bring back the H2 pistol if 343 wants to nerf it that bad.
I don’t think bloom necessarily means nerfing. In Reach it is very easy to score a close range kill with the pistol. Much more so than the AR.
And I’m regards to Halo 2, I don’t think Halo really has secondary weapons… I have always thought of each weapon as it’s own unique gun with a unique niche to fill.