As with any great story, there must be a villain. Not just any villain, but one that is equally evil as the hero is good. (think Agent Smith to Neo in the 1st Matrix, Darth Vader to Luke, the Borg to the Federation, etc etc). I am posting this in an effort to bring a lasting quality that has been missing in Halo.
Let’s face it: the antagonists from every Halo have been muddled. Was the flood or the covenant the enemy in all 3? The stories in each were not that memorable, and don’t get me started on how horrible Halo 2 was. Seriously.
343i, for this next trilogy, I emplore you bring the enemy up to the level of Master Chief. Make them the ying to his yang. Maybe have a kind of super soldier but evil and one of them is hell bent on killing/ending humanity.
The villain must be super evil or no amount of texturing, hyping, armory, or game play will matter much. It will be forgettable as the first 3 Halo. They had great game play and that’s what made it memorable to a degree, but after 5 iterations and no real memorable story, it got lame quickly. I didn’t care about brutes fighting the elites in Halo 3. Reach had the best story but still fell short. You really didn’t care about Noble Team that much. Halo 1 was popular only for the fact that the game play was revolutionary for its time, but now it’s played out.
Seriously 343i, we want a compelling story. Please
Well the Precursors are the creators of life in the galaxy and have a habit of destroying any species they think is a failure of a creation. That’s pretty damn evil.
> Well the Precursors are the creators of life in the galaxy and have a habit of destroying any species they think is a failure of a creation. That’s pretty damn evil.
From what I’ve read, I would like to add that the Precursors are -Yoink!- ugly.
> Well the Precursors are the creators of life in the galaxy and have a habit of destroying any species they think is a failure of a creation. That’s pretty damn evil.
A habit of that? We’ve not one recorded instance of such behavior from them.
> > Well the Precursors are the creators of life in the galaxy and have a habit of destroying any species they think is a failure of a creation. That’s pretty damn evil.
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> From what I’ve read, I would like to add that the Precursors are -Yoink!- ugly.
One race of the Precursors is ugly, it’s been <mark>speculated</mark> that the Precursors are a conglomerate of races like the Covies were.
> > Well the Precursors are the creators of life in the galaxy and have a habit of destroying any species they think is a failure of a creation. That’s pretty damn evil.
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> From what I’ve read, I would like to add that the Precursors are -Yoink!- ugly.
If you’re talking about the fellow I think you’re talking about he’s actually a Gravemind.
> A habit of that? We’ve not one recorded instance of such behavior from them.
I believe it is mentioned in Primordium that they did do that. After all, the Forerunners were going to be wiped out before rebelling AND humanity is next and if they fail, so be it.
> > A habit of that? We’ve not one recorded instance of such behavior from them.
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> I believe it is mentioned in Primordium that they did do that. After all, the Forerunners were going to be wiped out before rebelling AND humanity is next and if they fail, so be it.
Or the Forerunner believed they were to be wiped out. We have not heard of such from the Precursors themselves.
> > Or the Forerunner believed they were to be wiped out. We have not heard of such from the Precursors themselves.
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> Pretty sure the Timeless One said so before the Didact vaporized him.
It said Humanity would be tested next. It never said anything about them having tried to exterminate the Forerunner in the first place after they failed their test.
-Yoink- sake, I write an enormous post analysing the fallacies of the OP and the strengths of the Halo stories, and I get a message saying it’s too long AND lose everything I typed, as it was replaced with a quote of the OP.
Flood were just invasive and territorial and were concerned about self preservation and sustenance. Flood are a lot like 343 Guilty Spark. Their function is pretty much dead or inactive. Now they do all they can to survive as they have no guidance (Graveminds are not the highest command. That would be Precursor, wouldn’t it?). When Gravemind was planning on invading Earth, was that to enact the Precursor’s test or was it just a desire to consume?
The new enemy should be much more aggressive. This should be reflected in their tactics. Fighting territorial enemies is getting kinda dull and boring. Freeroaming enemies would be much more interesting to fight.
> and don’t get me started on how horrible Halo 2 was.
You just lost all credibility.
As for the antagonist. No, it doesn’t have to be anything. The antagonist doesn’t even have to be a physical being. It could be a force, a rule or even something as insignificant as a word.
Antagonists aren’t always what they seem and chances are, it’ll be the same in Halo 4.
> > Or the Forerunner believed they were to be wiped out. We have not heard of such from the Precursors themselves.
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> Pretty sure the Timeless One said so before the Didact vaporized him.
I’m pretty sure it was something along the lines of “They were going to erase us, but instead, we erased them.” or something similar to that. I’ll go and have a look for it now.
Edit. Here it is:
“Long ago, when it became apparent that the Precursors were about to erase Forerunners, there was a war, and Forerunners erased them.”
> > > Or the Forerunner believed they were to be wiped out. We have not heard of such from the Precursors themselves.
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> > Pretty sure the Timeless One said so before the Didact vaporized him.
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> I’m pretty sure it was something along the lines of “They were going to erase us, but instead, we erased them.” or something similar to that. I’ll go and have a look for it now.
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> Edit. Here it is:
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> “Long ago, when it became apparent that the Precursors were about to erase Forerunners, there was a war, and Forerunners erased them.”
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> Page 194.
Yes, but often those speaking in books can be fallible and somewhat short of omniscient. Did the Precursors truly wish to “erase” the Forerunner or did the Forerunner come to that conclusion on their own?