Halo 4 Will Succeed With These Changes!

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I will start by praising this game. And I will say over and over, this game has potential. More so than reach did. In fact this is the second fav campaign behind halo 2 for me. <mark>It is a beautiful game with a great story.</mark>

Much so is the spartan ops which although is repetitive at times I enjoy it very much! I’ve played halo since the beginning and have months of game time hours played. But I am a overall competitive player. Although I enjoy the story mode I didn’t buy the game for a story. I bought it to test my skill against other players. And this match making has many issues that need addressing.

How much of 343 is working on current problems with halo 4?

Or are they working on new maps/halo 5? Where are the man hours going to?

My simple fix would have been to have a beta, but we are past that time obviously so lets go over some of the issues.

The issues below should have been fixed the first month and others:

BIG ISSUE: <mark>Halo 4 will not be in MLG this season because of many issues with the game. You can read about it on this link:</mark> http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/24/halo-out-and-cod-in-at-major-league-gaming-but-why/

Bottom line to sum it up, Maps are too random, weapons drops are random, the game is too chaotic in general to be considered a MLG game.

  1. <mark>Weapon balance</mark> (notably the 9 meter shot gun we call the ‘bolt shot’ would be a instant fix) Scatter shot and shotgun are around 7 meters. Fail much? Its a loadout weapon. It should be a ordinance drop.

  2. <mark>Join in progress.</mark> I did a poll on this earlier and many people voiced their concern about this before the poll was locked for being “nonconstructive” because a major issue people hate is nonconstructive.

Another Join In Progress issue is that teams often get split to fill the game. This leads to boosting or angry players.

My idea would be to have it to where you can turn join in progress to OFF.

<mark>Do you hate joining games in progress 50% of your games alone? Why is nothing being done?</mark>

  1. <mark>Team doubles is currently “team camp with raingun/stick det”</mark> But I guess that helps with the “skill gap”? How annoying.

  2. Radar Jammer Bug. It is widely known that <mark>using Camo when crouched and not moving produces no Jammer. This is being abused VERY badly since the release in NOVEMBER.</mark> Is this a joke or what?

  3. <mark>Head missing and Outer Armor Modding. No major action has been taken against these modders.</mark> Good thing the head of the team thinks that mentioning a firm stand of “sexist” comments (just like the TOS on xbox live) is worth mentioning but Modders are let free to roam the game.

  4. <mark>No in game rank.</mark> Reach was very unpopular for this exact reason. In my friend circle alone only a few out of my 100 friends liked reach better. In fact the only reason I liked reach was for the invasion game type. Other than that we played halo 3. Halo 4 should have noticed this mistake right off the bat but went in for the same crap.

I have no beef with the progression system, but <mark>The New Rank System Will Only Be Viewable On WayPoint.</mark> Why would I want to go to waypoint each couple games and see a rank that has no meaning in the actual game? Pointless.

  1. <mark>SR 130 Max rank.</mark> I do enjoy the progression system because it gives me something to shoot for because of the lack of a ranked system. But this progression system is far easier than Halo:Reach’s progression system.

I play off and on because with all the potential this game has its cons out weight its pros. But with that said I’ve reached 130 in a few months time of playing off and on.

  1. VIP, Juggernaut (and rocket race), Capture the flag (1 flag), Assault (and one bumb) <mark>All FAIL TO MAKE A RETURN</mark>. This is one of halo 4’s biggest disappointments. Invasion (one of the good things of reach imo) fails to make an appearance.

  2. Sorta going with issue 8, lots of game types in halo 3 and halo reach were based on variations of infection. <mark>You can not change your weapon on halo 4’s infection.</mark> It gets stale after a while.

  3. Can not disable sprint ability for custom games.

  4. <mark>Group Theater Fails to make a return (match making)</mark> as requested by the fans. <mark>Spartan ops and Spartan Ops has no theater.</mark> Major failure to listen to the community. Saying that theater was “too glitchy” is not a excuse. If Bungie could make a semi working back 5 years ago there should be no problem at all with a new vamped game, system and Team.

  5. Daily, Monthly, and Weekly challenges are VERY repetitive.

For example you made the same monthly two times in a row and the first time

<mark>“win 70 games” is 10k</mark>
<mark>Next month is…</mark>
<mark>“Win 30 games” is 30k</mark>

Is this a joke? I’m sorry but that is just lazy and also belittles the accomplishment of the earlier month.

  1. <mark>No x’s on map when team mate dies.</mark> How do I know where the die when nobody uses mics anymore? My radar is not big enough to show the whole map obviously. It takes a lot of team work out of the game.

  2. Marker above teammate’s head. <mark>When I teammate talks in halo3/reach there marker used to turn white.</mark> This helped ALOT when a player says “over here!” you knew where “OVER HERE” actually was without looking directly at their character. This is one issue I just cringe at when I get online.

  3. <mark>Can not talk to other team until game is over.</mark> This really takes the hype out of the game for a lot of players. Although the company is against ‘trash talk’ Competitive talk is a big part of what halo is to a large portion of the community.

I’m not to claim that this is the reason for it. But ever since halo 3 the decline of players using mics has grown. Halo 4 has very few players with mics. It is annoying to say the least. This with the X’s being taken away on the map make the game very hard to know whats happening to all teammates around the entire maps, most of them tending to be fairly large.

  1. <mark>Bring back Descoping and get rid of flinching.</mark>

Fixed issues:

<mark>Complex: wall glitch, how long did it take? weeks? over a month? Did the map take years to make? how hard could a patch to a small section of wall take? Honestly?</mark>

I’m sure this is more. Mention them and I will add to the lists.

Thanks for reading, I have an honest interest in this game being fixed. I dont think they will because most of their interest and man hours are on future content but we can always hope that halo 5 is not overlooked with these issues…

Edit: Halo 4 is at a record low of 30k people.

Its Sales are a little short of 4 million less than halo.

It also holds the lowest ranking for a halo game ever.

Just figured I’d add these few facts in.

There are okay games and there is great games. Halo 4 is neither of these.

Happy halo 3’ing guys : )

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Reserved, You can now post.

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If only 343 would read <mark>This!</mark> :frowning:

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this game needs to get rid of flinch, bring back descoping…

and have a competitive playlist like the one about to come out but with no sprint, and descoping like i said above, and this game would be a little better… still need the aim assist toned down

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> this game needs to get rid of flinch, bring back descoping…
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> and have a competitive playlist like the one about to come out but with no sprint, and descoping like i said above, and this game would be a little better… still need the aim assist toned down

Agreed! added! Thanks for your input

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I believe 100% that Halo 4 does have every potential to be the best game. I read the post and I agree with almost all of it. Good post.

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The op is excellent. Unfortunately 343 has gone the way of most of the US. Competition isn’t important. Halo 4 reminds me of not keeping score of little league games. You can’t trash talk, discuss K/D, or look at another player the wrong way. They built this game for little kids yet its M for mature. Its a sad sad thing that Halo will never be a good game again. I hear that MLG players may be looking into making a real arena game instead of this garbage excuse for a Halo game. I think we should all get our money back for false advertising. Having Halo in the title was a lie.

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> If only 343 would read <mark>This!</mark> :frowning:

Pass my thread around please. It addresses big issues and I want it to be heard, thanks! : )

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> Halo 4 will not be in MLG this season because of many issues with the game.

The link you provided was the perspective of a player, not an official comment. As far as I am aware – and if I’m wrong, please correct me, so that I don’t spread a ton of misinformation – MLG was dropped because an agreement couldn’t be reached between Microsoft, MLG, and -Yoink!- Gaming.

> 2. <mark>Join in progress.</mark> I did a poll on this earlier and many people voiced their concern about this before the poll was locked for being “nonconstructive” because a major issue people hate is nonconstructive.

In the future, if you have a question or concern about a moderation action, PM the moderator responsible for that action. There are a number of reasons why we do not permit posting about it on the public boards.

> Do you hate joining games in progress 50% of your games alone? Why is nothing being done?

IIRC the upcoming Team Throwdown playlist will launch with JiP disabled.

> 4. Radar Jammer Bug. It is widely known that using Camo when crouched and not moving produces no Jammer. This is being abused VERY badly since the release in NOVEMBER. Is this a joke or what?

343i may fix this in the upcoming TU. They do not describe exploitable bugs prior to the launch of a TU, as they don’t wish to make the exploits widespread.

> 5. Head missing and Outer Armor Modding. No major action has been taken against these modders.

343i has been banning these players in waves for some time now. If you spot one, feel free to PM their gamertag to bs angel or rukizzel.

> Good thing the head of the team thinks that mentioning a firm stand of “sexist” comments (just like the TOS on xbox live) is worth mentioning but Modders are let free to roam the game.

That is a misconception caused by multiple publications completely misreporting tangentially-relevant remarks made by 343i.

> 13. <mark>No x’s on map when team mate dies.</mark> How do I know where the die when nobody uses mics anymore? My radar is not big enough to show the whole map obviously. It takes a lot of team work out of the game.

This change was most likely made to accommodate instant respawn. "X"s would either disappear immediately in an instant respawn gametype, or litter the map and become worthless.

> Fixed issues:
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> <mark>Complex: wall glitch, how long did it take? weeks? over a month? Did the map take years to make? how hard could a patch to a small section of wall take? Honestly?</mark>
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> I’m sure this is more. Mention them and I will add to the lists.

Boltshot reload glitch
Loadout-related save bugs
“Super-nade” (and a related bug involving Wraith mortars)
Team Doubles Personal Ordnance

There are more. Halo Bulletins contain details on past Title Updates and Matchmaking changes.

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> > If only 343 would read <mark>This!</mark> :frowning:
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> Pass my thread around please. It addresses big issues and I want it to be heard, thanks! : )

Feel free to direct people to this thread from other sites, but be careful about trying to direct people from other threads on this site. It’s easy to cross the line into spam when doing that.

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343 has no incentive to fix any issue. They’ve made their money so complaining about a beta that you paid money for is pointless. If you have followed them at all they have said repeatedly that they get their information on game issues from outside sources, they don’t use anything from this forum to decide what to fix or what works and what doesn’t.

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I agree GorillaPipe. We can only hope though that they remember the fans, The statistics on their sales and ratings are very low.

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> > > If only 343 would read <mark>This!</mark> :frowning:
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> > Pass my thread around please. It addresses big issues and I want it to be heard, thanks! : )
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> Feel free to direct people to this thread from other sites, but be careful about trying to direct people from other threads on this site. It’s easy to cross the line into spam when doing that.

Its sort of spam to even say that? Thats almost like saying “hey heres my card! pass it around!” and the person says “well I dont want to harass people”

You spam by even saying that. Nobody would need help getting to this post because it has so much useful information in it they’d be drawn to it already.

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> > > > If only 343 would read <mark>This!</mark> :frowning:
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> > > Pass my thread around please. It addresses big issues and I want it to be heard, thanks! : )
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> > Feel free to direct people to this thread from other sites, but be careful about trying to direct people from other threads on this site. It’s easy to cross the line into spam when doing that.
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> Its sort of spam to even say that? Thats almost like saying “hey heres my card! pass it around!” and the person says “well I dont want to harass people”
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> You spam by even saying that. Nobody would need help getting to this post because it has so much useful information in it they’d be drawn to it already.

Maybe Kikiwolf could use some help finding it though… :slight_smile: Also updated the first post with some major information I thought would seem interesting and open up the topic a bit.

Enjoy!

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The MLG issue has to do with an MS contract with -Yoink!- Gaming not the game itself. As much randomness that Infinity Slayer has, COD has more AND MLG runs COD using Killstreaks. While H4 competitive settings are a bit toned down and play like Halo 4 should have at launch.

I dont want to bash 343 but its obvious they dont understand Halo fans. Its not that we hate Infinity Slayer its the lack of balance that makes it a bad experience. For example, PODs would be fine with OS, Damage Boost, Speed Boost as the ONLY options.

Instead of looking at modern military shooters for influence they should have turned to Counter Strike and Team Fortress 2 for guidance. Abilities can work if balanced with pros and cons. Not identifiers like Camo’s jamming, more like shooting deactivates and resets the ability.
I still play Halo 4 everyday, but the more I play it I feel 343 ignored key Halo standards. Maps, weapon balance, aggressive team based gameplay, NOT encouraging camping. Thankfully Team Throwdown is a step in the right direction.