Big Team Battle was the mode that made halo what it was, the epic 8v8 OBJECTIVE BASED team work and communication to get the objective is what made it so much FUN. In that regard halo at the core and as STANDARD should come with big team battle. But now all that is gone…
Why?
I know of at least 10 people that I play online with that thought halo 4 was -Yoink- because the classics were gone i.e. 1 Way Capture the Flag (Offense and defense) and bomb (Neutral or Multi). All of them then regarded it as -Yoink- and traded it in.
But you replaced it with " Big team Infinity Slayer "… which in my opinion, is crap, with little maps on offer and ONLY slayer… Who wants to play that, really?
I reckon you should sort this immediately because tens if not hundreds of people will simply get rid of this because the Call of duty-ised way of thinking…
> Big Team Battle was the mode that made halo what it was, the epic 8v8 OBJECTIVE BASED team work and communication to get the objective is what made it so much FUN. In that regard halo at the core and as STANDARD should come with big team battle. But now all that is gone…
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> Why?
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> I know of at least 10 people that I play online with that thought halo 4 was Yoink! because the classics were gone i.e. 1 Way Capture the Flag (Offense and defense) and bomb (Neutral or Multi). All of them then regarded it as Yoink! and traded it in.
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> But you replaced it with " Big team Infinity Slayer "… which in my opinion, is crap, with little maps on offer and ONLY slayer… Who wants to play that, really?
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> I reckon you should sort this immediately because tens if not hundreds of people will simply get rid of this because the Call of duty-ised way of thinking…
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> PLEASE FIX THIS.
Besides this, how about BTB without vehicles? Maybe the Mongoose or Warthog but no Banshees or Ghosts or Mantis’. I feel like the entire point of BTB right now is to get into the power vehicles the fastest or use the Ghost to boost to the opposing team’s side and nick theirs. The entire game then becomes a Mantis fight and if your team mates are pissy that you managed to get in one before them, they intentionally damage and destroy your vehicles. A mess, a complete mess.
T_T i miss BTB Assault on Zanzibar, frantic battles to get in and control the building.
I do hope they add a BTB Objective Playlist, and perhaps keep it completely separate from the Slayer Variant. BTB Slayer was always disappointing when people would overwhelmingly vote for it in previous games. Even in Reach, with Invasion Slayer.
…makes me thinking people have terrible taste in just about everything, so whatever they dont pick, that must be the best.
BTB Slayer has always been Garbage, BTB Objective has always been fun.
People hate fun.
I am one of the people who feel Halo4 has stepped backwards instead of forwards.
No BTB Objective based Games = Epic Fail 343!
What is needed is clear.
BTB Multi Bomb
BTB Multi Flag
BTB One Flag
As a bare minimum.
My entire clan who met through Halo2 Clan matchmaking and who have played together ever since are taking this game back over a lack of BTB playlists. Little shortsighted but if there’s one thing game developers should have learnt by now is that you learn from past mistakes to avoid making the same ones over again. This is something 343 clearly haven’t done…yet.
These are some arrogant views here. 8v8 BTB is great in slayer and objective form. Why is there 8v8 Big Team Infinity Slayer? Because of the fact that hardly anyone every played BTB Objective properly in Reach. It became a horrible, horrible game type because of the ridiculous amount of spawn killing. Holding the flag and just spawn killing on a game without a good spawn system is no indication of skill, but how you apparently enjoy belittling other players and not actually playing the game. These people wanted BTB Slayer with a 15 minute time limit instead of a kill limit so they could stat pad. Rarely did people play for the objective. Once again, boosters and cheaters are the reasons we can’t have nice things.
However, there are many who actually enjoy BTB Objective, and playing it properly, but it still needs to be separate from BTB Slayer. I’m not sure how this would be implemented but they shouldn’t be combined.
To those saying no vehicles: Big Team IS vehicles. It’s about team work/power weapons/vehicles. You don’t like vehicles? Play the other playlists without them - only TWO playlists in Halo 4 have only vehicle maps (BTB and Dominion). You don’t like those? Then you’re playing the wrong game.
> there are many who actually enjoy BTB Objective, and playing it properly, but it still needs to be separate from BTB Slayer. I’m not sure how this would be implemented but they shouldn’t be combined.
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> To those saying no vehicles: Big Team IS vehicles. It’s about team work/power weapons/vehicles. You don’t like vehicles? Play the other playlists without them - only TWO playlists in Halo 4 have only vehicle maps (BTB and Dominion). You don’t like those? Then you’re playing the wrong game.
There does really need to be a more expansive big team playlist - One bomb, neutral bomb, one flag, ctf classic all need to be added to the Slayer playlist or to have their own.
We had a flag carrier who jumped as an enemy wraith tried to boost and splatter him righ in front of our home base. He ended up being propelled straight upwards and managed to land through the hole in the roof right on the flag spot to win the game. The enemy team thought we had cheated!
I am devastated it is not in the game. That was by far my favourite gametype.
IMO it’s what makes Halo for me. Having huge battles with many vehicles in play.
BTB has always been one of my favorite playlist, but it just frustrates me so much in Halo 4 that I stopped playing it. Everyone uses the DMR, and sits back. I don’t enjoy being forced to use a certain gun and playstyle to be competitive.
Objective games mode would help tremendously. Sure some people will still sit back with the DMR, but chances are they will lose the game since they only care about k/d in the first place.
Until this happens I’m not going to touch BTB again. Just my imo.
I do think Big team Infinity slayer is alright and I play it on occasion but to ignore Big team Battle i think is a MASSIVE mistake.
From games i’ve played in, in previous halo games, people have always went for the objective ( Be it joining on your own or with a team) because it was just to fun to do so and to get the flag or plant the bomb with so many people in the game was highly satisfying and getting kills in process was always good!
Just play capture the flag that has 16 players doesn’t it! I don’t know about assault blam! you 343i for messing with halo. We need custom games good again and we need what this guy said and what about assault and vip! Big team infinity slayer just took a huge blam! all over big team battle hopefully they will add big team battle.
343I need to add BIG TEAM BATTLE BACK WITH PRE LOADOUTS WITH AR GAMEMODE VARIANTS WITH NON RANDOM WEAPON SPAWNS AND DMR GAMEMODE VARIANTS. E.G ctf ar’s, dmr slayer etc.
Calm down, guys. First of all, 343i isn’t stupid; They’re doing a better job than Bungie with newer ideas. They’re MONITORING the playlists.
To explain it better, they are checking to see who play’s what and then keeping that, while having certain things which rotate weekly. Big Team Infinity Slayer, for example, may be traded for an Objective based BTB some time very close, and then, depending on the people who play it, will be great.
Personally, I’d have separated them - Big Team Battle, and under that, Big Team Slayer, consisting of both classic and infinity, and then Big Team Objective.
But it’s ok. 343 have done everything to please the community, and are now already taking in results to see who likes what, so as to cater.
I can’t see a reason why they wouldn’t add BTB. I didn’t play objective based big teams much, but sometimes I would just to mix things up a little. It is a shame they didn’t have it in from the start. But then, they are going to be rotating the playlists on a regular basis. I know they’re bringing in Team SWAT next week.
