I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the "Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).
343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan.
> the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
Better make him lower his gun and get winded every fifteen seconds while Doom Guy is flying across the map at 30mph laughing at him.
> 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
Because the game absolutely needed perks, and they make such a huge difference in how enjoyable and revolutionary the game is.
It’s pretty obvious some decisions were made solely to appeal to a wider demographic
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> I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the "Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).
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> 343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
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> 343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
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> It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan.
I agree with you, man. In my opinion, Halo gets better by every new release.
What are you smoking bro? Have you played any other halo games? It is nowhere near as good as any of the Bungie installment’s in the franchise.
Smh I hope you aren’t serious.
PS I don’t want to be a jack -Yoink- but, really halo 4? Really?
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> I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the "Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).
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> 343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
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> 343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
>
> It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan.
"I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the “Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).” __ The time has surfaced where mere complaining about 343i has grown old, tedious. People won’t lay off, friend, but if they don’t, it proves that they are really still butthurt over a game that was released three years ago. 343i have learnt from Halo 4, as is evident with Halo 5. Creating obsolete arguments doesn’t do anything for one, but those arguments will still be made to reopen old wounds for the sake of seeing blood. And some people may disagree that the inclusion of sprint doesn’t heal Halo. I say that Halo was never damaged by sprint to begin with.
"343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”." __ I have to disagree some. Halo 4 was definitely trying to bring in new fans. However, I don’t necessarily think that is the case with Halo 5. We’ve yet to see the full extent of Halo 5’s multiplayer, but so far it appears that it’s appealing to old fans before new ones. We’ll have to wait for more news before making conclusive decisions on where this game is going.
"343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER." __ I didn’t really feel like a super soldier until Halo 4. Halo 5’s beta improved on this. Whether 343i are copying mechanics or not, Halo 5 is advancing the franchise. I do wish that they would innovate some more, but then we haven’t seen the full lengths of Halo 5’s multiplayer, and I hope we’ll be blown away.
"It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan." __ Halo 5’s official cover art really gets the hype going, especially if you are a fan of the extended lore. Clears throat Blue Team are going to be co-op characters!
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> What are you smoking bro? Have you played any other halo games? It is nowhere near as good as any of the Bungie installment’s in the franchise.
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> Smh I hope you aren’t serious.
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> PS I don’t want to be a jack -Yoink- but, really halo 4? Really?
Chill your fire, mate. You’re confusing opinions with fact. Some people prefer Halo 4 over the other entries, including me to some–but that doesn’t mean that the previous entries weren’t better. In terms of scale, I personally believe that Halo 2 and 3 respectively kicked past expectations. In terms of music, I think Halo 2 succeeded the strongest. And the multiplayer? So far, the original series did better, but Halo 5’s multiplayer is a magnet for me.
But I love Halo 4 more than the original games when it comes to its story. The reliance on the extended lore was a bad move, but the characters and dialogue are what made it special for me. However, Halo 2’s plot still surprises me today, and until something beats it, Halo 2 will remain my favorite Halo.
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> > 2533275017684955;4:
> > What are you smoking bro? Have you played any other halo games? It is nowhere near as good as any of the Bungie installment’s in the franchise.
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> > Smh I hope you aren’t serious.
> >
> > PS I don’t want to be a jack -Yoink- but, really halo 4? Really?
>
>
> Chill your fire, mate. You’re confusing opinions with fact. Some people prefer Halo 4 over the other entries, including me to some–but that doesn’t mean that the previous entries weren’t better. In terms of scale, I personally believe that Halo 2 and 3 respectively kicked past expectations. In terms of music, I think Halo 2 succeeded the strongest. And the multiplayer? So far, the original series did better, but Halo 5’s multiplayer is a magnet for me.
>
> But I love Halo 4 more than the original games when it comes to its story. The reliance on the extended lore was a bad move, but the characters and dialogue are what made it special for me. However, Halo 2’s plot still surprises me today, and until something beats it, Halo 2 will remain my favorite Halo.
I believe that using the extended lore was bad move towards people who haven’t read any of it. For us that have read it it was a dream come true
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> I believe that using the extended lore was bad move towards people who haven’t read any of it. For us that have read it it was a dream come true
Agreed. At the time, I hadn’t read any of the Forerunner Sage. But I had read Glasslands before Halo 4 was released. I couldn’t get a copy of the Thursday War, so I was surprised when I saw him in one of the Terminals. “Oh, it’s Jul 'Mdama,” I thought. “But, hang on, how did he escape Trevelyan? I should really pick up Thursday War . . .”
Then there was the Didact; at the time, I had no idea who he was. I was like, “Oh, cool, it’s a Forerunner! I think he’s a character from those Forerunner books . . .Damn, what’s he doing to the Chief?! He can control gravity?! Awesome! Oh, he’s so gonna team up with the Covenant!”
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> What are you smoking bro? Have you played any other halo games? It is nowhere near as good as any of the Bungie installment’s in the franchise.
>
> Smh I hope you aren’t serious.
>
> PS I don’t want to be a jack -Yoink- but, really halo 4? Really?
When Halo 4 launched. I was not crazy about it.
But it when I started going through the Laso
playlists with MCC; 4 was by far the most fun to complete.
That’s just this dudes opinion though.
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> > I believe that using the extended lore was bad move towards people who haven’t read any of it. For us that have read it it was a dream come true
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> Agreed. At the time, I hadn’t read any of the Forerunner Sage. But I had read Glasslands before Halo 4 was released. I couldn’t get a copy of the Thursday War, so I was surprised when I saw him in one of the Terminals. “Oh, it’s Jul 'Mdama,” I thought. “But, hang on, how did he escape Trevelyan? I should really pick up Thursday War . . .”
>
> Then there was the Didact; at the time, I had no idea who he was. I was like, “Oh, cool, it’s a Forerunner! I think he’s a character from those Forerunner books . . .Damn, what’s he doing to the Chief?! He can control gravity?! Awesome! Oh, he’s so gonna team up with the Covenant!”
The point about “using extended lore… And for those who have not kept up on it…” Is an awesome observation bro! That’s precisely what category I fell into when Halo 4 dropped. Once I began playing, I was like “what the heck is going on… Since when did grunts become little trained assassins and stop screaming “you killed yap yap”…”
but once I read the Forerunner Saga… Boy oh boy was I hooked!
Nice work and I couldn’t agree with you more.
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> > What are you smoking bro? Have you played any other halo games? It is nowhere near as good as any of the Bungie installment’s in the franchise.
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> > Smh I hope you aren’t serious.
> >
> > PS I don’t want to be a jack -Yoink- but, really halo 4? Really?
>
>
> Chill your fire, mate. You’re confusing opinions with fact. Some people prefer Halo 4 over the other entries, including me to some–but that doesn’t mean that the previous entries weren’t better. In terms of scale, I personally believe that Halo 2 and 3 respectively kicked past expectations. In terms of music, I think Halo 2 succeeded the strongest. And the multiplayer? So far, the original series did better, but Halo 5’s multiplayer is a magnet for me.
>
> But I love Halo 4 more than the original games when it comes to its story. The reliance on the extended lore was a bad move, but the characters and dialogue are what made it special for me. However, Halo 2’s plot still surprises me today, and until something beats it, Halo 2 will remain my favorite Halo.
You guys with the observations on 343i relying on extended lore… Great stuff, it’s so true!
I hate the covenant. After playing Halo CE I went out and picked up “the fall of reach” followed by the flood and first strike. And after reading the 3 novels… I couldn’t wait to bash & smash all things Covenant related.
So when Halo 2 came out and all of a sudden we started assuming the role of the Arby… Man… I became so irate that I almost broke my Xbox. 
Ilove every HALO the same.
End of story.
HALO IS JUST EVOLVING!!!
AND 343 IS DOING AN AWESOME JOB!!!
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> > > 2533275017684955;4:
> > > What are you smoking bro? Have you played any other halo games? It is nowhere near as good as any of the Bungie installment’s in the franchise.
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> > > Smh I hope you aren’t serious.
> > >
> > > PS I don’t want to be a jack -Yoink- but, really halo 4? Really?
> >
> >
> > Chill your fire, mate. You’re confusing opinions with fact. Some people prefer Halo 4 over the other entries, including me to some–but that doesn’t mean that the previous entries weren’t better. In terms of scale, I personally believe that Halo 2 and 3 respectively kicked past expectations. In terms of music, I think Halo 2 succeeded the strongest. And the multiplayer? So far, the original series did better, but Halo 5’s multiplayer is a magnet for me.
> >
> > But I love Halo 4 more than the original games when it comes to its story. The reliance on the extended lore was a bad move, but the characters and dialogue are what made it special for me. However, Halo 2’s plot still surprises me today, and until something beats it, Halo 2 will remain my favorite Halo.
>
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> You guys with the observations on 343i relying on extended lore… Great stuff, it’s so true!
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> I hate the covenant. After playing Halo CE I went out and picked up “the fall of reach” followed by the flood and first strike. And after reading the 3 novels… I couldn’t wait to bash & smash all things Covenant related.
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> So when Halo 2 came out and all of a sudden we started assuming the role of the Arby… Man… I became so irate that I almost broke my Xbox.
"You guys with the observations on 343i relying on extended lore… Great stuff, it’s so true!" __ To fully experience a story is to comprehend it. I love Halo 4’s plot, but my initial experience of it was damaged; what I could not understand I tried to understand, and that led to me focusing on redundant theories and splitting apart facts to view the innards of an empty shell. I know my experience with Halo 5 will not be damaged; 343i have mentioned that Halo 5 will be “its own story”, and I’ve been keeping up-to-date with the extended lore.
"I hate the covenant. After playing Halo CE I went out and picked up “the fall of reach” followed by the flood and first strike. And after reading the 3 novels… I couldn’t wait to bash & smash all things Covenant related." __ I never got around to reading the novels until after Glasslands; when I heard about Glasslands and its setting, I had to jump in. After reading my first Halo book (and one of my first books, altogether), I started to get interested in exploring the extended lore. I never hated the Covenant, though, but that’s probably because I was mainly stuck to the games until the later entries. However, I did pity the Sangheili and hate Mercy, Truth and Regret after reading Contact Harvest.
"So when Halo 2 came out and all of a sudden we started assuming the role of the Arby… Man… I became so irate that I almost broke my Xbox. ;)" __ When I first played Halo 2 at seven or so years old, I skipped the cutscenes with the Arbiter–the Chief was everything for me, and whenever Thel 'Vadamee was on-screen, I was like “Uh, who the hell is this guy? Where’s the Chief? I’ll just skip this .”
Then they put me in the Arbiter’s shoes. Being a dumb seven-year-old, I thought I was the Chief in disguise . . . I killed all of my Elite allies then began watching the cutscenes, discovering that I was playing as an Elite.
When I play Halo 4 on MCC the 60fps confuse me and I think I’m playing Halo 5. I have pulled left trigger many times in attempts to aim down sights but end up throwing a grenade instead. It’s only with Halo 4 though. Still it’s a good game, could it be better? Probably. But that’s with every game.
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> > the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
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> Better make him lower his gun and get winded every fifteen seconds while Doom Guy is flying across the map at 30mph laughing at him.
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> > 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
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> Because the game absolutely needed perks, and they make such a huge difference in how enjoyable and revolutionary the game is.
>
> It’s pretty obvious some decisions were made solely to appeal to a wider demographic
YES
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> I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the "Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).
>
> 343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
>
> 343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
>
> It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan.
Bro I see where ur coming from but I think ur preception is cloudy… If he was supposed to have Spartan abilities they would’ve done it… They didn’t… Let’s just pretend for a sec that they didn’t have the idea of it even until Reach or 4 then that means that that is not Halos mech… If they created it for it then sure but they didn’t other games created it first making it their mech
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> I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the "Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).
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> 343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
>
> 343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
>
> It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan.
Finally, someone who doesn’t blindly hate Halo 4.
Yeah, it was different, but I’m glad it was. I’d rather play something new, fresh, and designed to be fun than the worn and slow-paced game’s I’ve been playing. As much as I enjoyed playing Halo 3, I don’t want a reskin of it with new weapons.
I’ve seen people complain about Halo 4 having elements novel to the franchise, and that’s fine. What bothers me is that they won’t even acknowledge it as a good game in general. To me, it seems that they think that it can’t be a good game without being a good Halo game, it’s just black and white.
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> > I would greatly appreciate it if the Spartan community would lay off the "Let’s bash 343i for all things Halo 4 & what may be with Halo 5).
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> > 343i is not copying COD. 343i is not “catering to certain demographic to obtain greater revenue”.
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> > 343i is evolving this franchise. The Spartan Abilities are something which should’ve been playable in every Halo game to date. Less we forget, the MC is a genetically modified SUPER SOLIDER.
> >
> > It’s an awesome time to be a Halo fan.
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> Bro I see where ur coming from but I think ur preception is cloudy… If he was supposed to have Spartan abilities they would’ve done it… They didn’t… Let’s just pretend for a sec that they didn’t have the idea of it even until Reach or 4 then that means that that is not Halos mech… If they created it for it then sure but they didn’t other games created it first making it their mech
I believe technology was the limiting factor with respect to incorporating any “Spartan Abilities” with Halo CE, 2 & 3. (Or at least incorporating them in such a way that looked good and just became a natural extension of the player).
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> I believe technology was the limiting factor with respect to incorporating any “Spartan Abilities” with Halo CE, 2 & 3. (Or at least incorporating them in such a way that looked good and just became a natural extension of the player).
What does technology have to do with anything?
You don’t need super special hardware to make a game where your character can wall run, climb, prone, block punches, etc. Several games had these things at the same time on the same hardware as the Halo games.
They weren’t excluded from the game because of a lack of technology. They were excluded simply because they make no sense being in such a game to begin with, and the statement that “Oh Halo should’ve had these things in every game” just makes me nauseous.
> What bothers me is that they won’t even acknowledge it as a good game in general. To me, it seems that they think that it can’t be a good game without being a good Halo game, it’s just black and white.
Because -Yoink- this mentality of “Oh if it’s modern and made by an AAA studio with high-quality graphics it’s automatically a good game”.
A game can be both a terrible Halo game AND a terrible game in general. There’s nothing that says it has to be considered a good game.
Not saying Halo 4 was a terrible game by itself, but seriously, people are allowed to hold that opinion if they choose.
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> > What bothers me is that they won’t even acknowledge it as a good game in general. To me, it seems that they think that it can’t be a good game without being a good Halo game, it’s just black and white.
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> Because -Yoink- this mentality of “Oh if it’s modern and made by an AAA studio with high-quality graphics it’s automatically a good game”.
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> A game can be both a terrible Halo game AND a terrible game in general. There’s nothing that says it has to be considered a good game.
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> Not saying Halo 4 was a terrible game by itself, but seriously, people are allowed to hold that opinion if they choose.
I know this. What bothers me is that almost every time Halo 4 is talked about on these forums is that people talk about it as if they believe every single person on the planet hates Halo 4. To me, it’s the equivalent of saying “If you like Halo 4, your opinion’s are irrelevant.”
Furthermore, many of the arguments against Halo 4 are based on comparisons of it to previous Halo games.
I remember watching IGN videos on H2A maps leading up to the release of the MCC, and if I remember it right they mentioned that Bungie originally intended to have sprint and, to some extent, loadouts for Halo 2. I can’t help but wonder what the Halo community would be like today if they actually did this.