Halo 4, The bottom line...

Everyone who is not happy with Halo 4 please help me get this out there! The community needs to know and 343 really needs to know what the community thinks of what they have done to Halo.

As a huge Halo fan am sad to say I’m somewhat disappointed with Halo 4. Many things about this game cheese me off. The campaign was great, no complaints there. But i cant say the same for multiplayer, forge and custom games… what happened?

The Forging maps are to small with items that are not exactly good for making maps for custom games. and 90% of the items were recycled from reach. And what i completely don’t understand is why 343 took out the fine adjustment? which is where you push down on the analog stick and you can slowly and just slightly adjust an item. Adding magnets was a pretty cool idea, but id rather work with the fine adjustment more the the magnets. And finally there needs to be a map sort of like Forge World, big with lots of different terrain. not 3 little maps that are not even that good to Forge on, or even make the good old game types we all used to love and enjoy.

Now moving on to Custom Games, I am crazy about Custom Games. I’m kinda embarrassed of the fact i had well over 2000 custom games on Halo 3. haha and same goes for Reach. But what i have noticed is that the Custom Games in Halo 4 lacks too much. If you have noticed “Race” is gone, as well as VIP and some others as well. But what is really the stab in the heart is that Flood, is the new Infection. And because of this, say good bye to all those game types we used to play and love. Because most of the Custom Games game types ran off Infection. And now we are stuck with a seriously boring Custom Games… I feel terrible for anyone who makes Halo Michinimas… Since putting your weapon down is still only off line and that if you walk in any direction or crouch, your weapon is drawn again. Put back up.

And last but not least, Matchmaking. I’m just gonna start with Flood. First of all the forced colours is the dumbest thing that could of ever been introduced. Not to mention how over powered the Flood are. The thruster pack is really dumb, and the flood need to be a one shot kill if hit in the head by a pistol shot, like in Reach. Other game types like slayer have just been ruined with the ordinance drops. Now if a team is doing good they are just given more power weapons to destroy even more. What ever happened to running around and finding your power weapon? The worst thing about Matchmaking is the terrible maps and the map layout. now it is easy to just run away if your hurt. When ever I weaken someone they just run to the nearest crate to hind behind. and since all the maps are jammed packed with stuff everywhere, it is easy for your pray to just run and hide. I guess I am just utterly disappointed with what 343 has done to my favorite game…

If you have something to add please do, but don’t comment saying your happy with what 343 has done because this post it for those who are not happy with Halo 4.

Can agree with most everything except flood. The flood aren’t overpowered at all, they are an actual threat for once.

I agree with everything but for some reason I still really like playing multiplayer haha. Something’s off, but I don’t know what.

Regarding Custom Games, where did the option to hide the gamertag go?

I wanted to make a Predator gametype with this hidden…

> Everyone who is not happy with Halo 4 please help me get this out there!

Or you . . . could just get out of here.

Halo 4 is the best Halo online ever.

This game is amazing and 343i did a fantastic job with Halo 4.

If you and the others who are not happy with this game, you are free to leave and play something else. No one is holding a DMR to your head to play this game.

> > Everyone who is not happy with Halo 4 please help me get this out there!
>
> Or you . . . could just get out of here.
>
> Halo 4 is the best Halo online ever.
>
> This game is amazing and 343i did a fantastic job with Halo 4.
>
> If you and the others who are not happy with this game, you are free to leave and play something else. No one is holding a DMR to your head to play this game.

Nah, I disagree 100%. It’s not worth the $ I paid for it and it’s not the game that was advertised. You’ve never played a Halo game before and had you played any other Halo game, you wouldn’t be saying what you are saying.

> If you and the others who are not happy with this game, you are free to leave and play something else. No one is holding a DMR to your head to play this game.

I’m not going to give up that easily.

Besides, Halo is the only game I know…

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> Nah, I disagree 100%. It’s not worth the $ I paid for it and it’s not the game that was advertised. You’ve never played a Halo game before and had you played any other Halo game, you wouldn’t be saying what you are saying.

Nahhh, I disagree 100%.

I bought the first Xbox on launch day and bought Halo 1 at launch, Halo 2 limited edition on launch day, Halo 3 on launch day, Reach Legendary and Reach console on launch day, Halo 4 limited edition and Halo 4 console on launch day. I was also a beta tester for Xbox Live over 10 years ago and never lapsed in my Live membership.

So it is quite safe to say, I played a Halo game and quite certain I play Xbox Live.

And I stand by Halo 4 being the best Halo online, period. 343i did a fantastic job with this game. It is the game they advertised and worth every penny.

So, let me ask you good sir . . . what are your credentials? If they are better then mine do share. I would love to hear them. And as a gesture of good faith I can list your copy of Halo 4 on eBay to sell it for you. You no longer have to play the game if you do not want to. The Halo community would be better served without the negativity brought here for this amazing game of Halo 4.

Yea campaign is good but multiplayer I can honestly say that it didn’t give me ther same good feeling as reach. I want to say that either the DMR is over powered or the other weapons need to be as good as the DMR. Grenades I found to be weak and the needle gun to me does not perform as well as on the first and previous HALO’s. Also I don’t know about anyone else but to me when it comes to you performing and assassination it seems to be to much of a cat and mouse thing going on just to catch up to an enemy to kill them on reach it was not like that at all. Also they could add some better maps. I find myself always wanting to play haven map a lot more than others. I cannot comment on the DLC maps because I have yet to purchase those. But yea those are the issues I have. Not dogging the multiplayer but it could really be better.

I think Halo 4 needs a big update in regards to everything! that or 343 needs to pass the franchise on to someone else. This was the first game they made and a new era for Halo. I thought it would be the best yet. but i was wrong. For the fellow defending Halo 4 here you need to play a few Halos prier to this one. If you think this one is the best you must have no idea what it is that makes Halo, Halo. To all you guys agreeing with me here in these comments, is there anyway of making this post noticeable for the community to see, or even better, 343. 343 needs to know what they have done to they game we know and love before its too late. If they do not learn of this all they will be doing is destroying the game that Bungie made famous.

I agree. 343 has ruined Halo. I miss Halo 2 and 3.

Thanks 343, you ruined my favourite franchise.

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> Yea campaign is good but multiplayer I can honestly say that it didn’t give me ther same good feeling as reach. I want to say that either the DMR is over powered or the other weapons need to be as good as the DMR. Grenades I found to be weak and the needle gun to me does not perform as well as on the first and previous HALO’s. Also I don’t know about anyone else but to me when it comes to you performing and assassination it seems to be to much of a cat and mouse thing going on just to catch up to an enemy to kill them on reach it was not like that at all. Also they could add some better maps. I find myself always wanting to play haven map a lot more than others. I cannot comment on the DLC maps because I have yet to purchase those. But yea those are the issues I have. Not dogging the multiplayer but it could really be better.

reach was bad. get off the forums reach noob

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> > Everyone who is not happy with Halo 4 please help me get this out there!
>
> Or you . . . could just get out of here.
>
> Halo 4 is the best Halo online ever.
>
> This game is amazing and 343i did a fantastic job with Halo 4.
>
> If you and the others who are not happy with this game, you are free to leave and play something else. No one is holding a DMR to your head to play this game.

Please kill yourself for the safety of humanity

> And I stand by Halo 4 being the best Halo online, period. 343i did a fantastic job with this game. It is the game they advertised and worth every penny.

I don’t know how you could possibly say this when Halo 3 had way more gametype customization, easily accessible file share, and community content hosted in matchmaking, along with the biggest weapon and vehicle count in the entire series.

Halo 4 is lacking or missing most of these. You are obviously just being over-defensive of Halo 4.

Even if you think its a very good game, there is no way it matches up to Halo 3 in terms of gameplay and experience.

> > Everyone who is not happy with Halo 4 please help me get this out there!
>
> Or you . . . could just get out of here.
>
> Halo 4 is the best Halo online ever.
>
> This game is amazing and 343i did a fantastic job with Halo 4.
>
> If you and the others who are not happy with this game, you are free to leave and play something else. No one is holding a DMR to your head to play this game.

You must be smoking crack to think that halo 4 is the best halo. Halo 4 multiplayer has to be one of the worst online fps games I’ve ever played. I only played it for a couple of days and then quit because it was so boring. Halo 1 and 2 will always be the best halo games ever.

I’m happy with what 343 has done

XD

I would like to give this a chance, I really would since I like Halo but 343 need to get their -Yoink- together and fix:

  1. Lag → Holy -Yoink- the lag. Almost every other match I see people teleporting around the map and shots not registering

  2. Maps → Make the maps fit for the game type (a la Reach). I don’t want to play a SWAT game where I see someone every 10 minutes, that’s not SWAT.

  3. Respawn → Simple. I should NOT be respawing 2 meters away from the guy who just killed me AND in his sight again. Either this or give a 2/3 second immunity like BF3 of Gears 3 does.

  4. Playlist → Keep the -Yoinking!- playlists in!! Stop rotating them around. I would like to play Team Snipers but guess what? It’s -Yoinking!- gone! And also, bring back some of the different, fun playlists such as grifball and headhunter.

  5. Matchmaking → This one’s simple, I should not be on a team with noobs (ranks lower than 20) when the opposite team has higher ranked people (40+)

There’s a lot more, but these are the main ones for me.

> 5) Matchmaking → This one’s simple, I should not be on a team with noobs (ranks lower than 20) when the opposite team has higher ranked people (40+)

It is not based on pure level for team placement. They factor in a lot of things.

Example, I am level 79 with a K/D of 1.25. You may not have me on your team. Instead you may get a level 23 with a K/D of 2.45.

Obvious the level 23 is much better then me in terms of K/D ratio. Then again if he/she only played 200 games to my 600 games they may factor in the K/D over a span of games for a weighted average. Not sure about that.

There is a lot of math going on in the background for matchmaking.

> You must be smoking crack to think that halo 4 is the best halo. Halo 4 multiplayer has to be one of the worst online fps games I’ve ever played. I only played it for a couple of days and then quit

I always like to go look at the stats of people that hate on the game. I usually see a common theme of a K/D ratio that just speaks volumes of how they are getting owned bad. So they hate the game. Its the game’s fault they are bad. LOL Really?

But, ummmmm, you have no stats for the game. Says you did NOT even play the game.

The following will not apply to you since you did NOT play the game. Here are some reasons why I think people hate on the game.

– Power weapon camping and knowing what time an item respawns is no longer something to rely on. There is something called skill you have to have now. So all the years in playing Halo that power weapon camping got you easy kills. No more, kids. And the skilled players are benefiting now. Their kills AND assists earn them drops. Drops that come to them. So the skilled players are twice as dangerous AND rewarded.

– The campers no longer can find a glitch spot and camp it. Kill cams and instant respawns destroy that tactic. So now the player has to move and use that funny word called, skill, again. So they hate on Halo 4 their cheap tactic no longer is able to be used. Besides a truly skilled player should be able to take down AGAIN players that are running at them for revenge. I do it all the time. Instant respawns are a blessing for people that play smart.

– Sprint helps people escape from the campers, so campers hate on sprint. People that complain about sprint are the people that can’t seal the deal and finish the kill. So they hate on Halo 4. Even if the player is using sprint as an escape ALL the time. The next time he/she is running it may be to you with shields down and blam! Easy one shot or 2 shot kill. There is no reason to complain about sprint.

– DMRs overpowered? That complaint is stale. Every game has a overpowered gun. Plain and simple. No way around it. And why complain? You can use the SAME gun as your LOADOUT gun. You have the SAME advantage as everyone else. Are you running in full speed and getting owned by it? Probably. But it’s the game’s fault a person is bad? Really? Come on, man.

343i did an amazing job and making this game great and a joy to play. If you hate on Halo 4 cause you are a horrible player, it’s not the game’s fault.

If you do not like the game trade it in. Get some money back and buy a game you do like. No one is holding a DMR to your head saying: “You must play Halo 4 or ELSE!”

Nope. No one is doing that. Stop complaining. Stop hating. Stop crying about a great game. And honestly, stop coming to the forums. You are doing nothing but making the Halo community look bad with all the useless negativity. You folks that hate the game are in the minority. Majority love this game.

I’m actually the opposite side of the same coin. The multiplayer/matchmaking in Halo 4 is some of the best Halo has done yet, aside from a few minor issues that don’t really affect gameplay at all but rather things I think would improve the overall enjoyment experience, I have absolutely no problems with the multiplayer aspect.

No, my complaints are lie solely with the campaign and the story. Bungie did far better with all of their stories than 343i have so far :confused: I mean, they started out good, Halo Legends, Halo Evolutions, Cryptum, Primordium…but now? How do they go from amazing stuff and being as good as Bungie to this? Glasslands, Thursday War, Halo 4? All poor stories that either don’t mesh up with the previous lore very well or don’t mesh with it at all. The biggest problems with Halo 4 were it’s over-reliance on the books and FUD, that’s not how it should be, the game should stand on its own and not have to rely on anything else for it to make sense…and in addition everything needs to be explained. Like the Didact for instance, him being evil makes no sense at all with what we’ve seen of him before and it just feels like they’re going “We found the Didact, and oh wait, what? What’s that, he’s evil?”. That could have potentially been a good or interesting plot if they’d actually invested time in explaining it, but we didn’t get that, so it just feels completely out of left field and a lot of nonesense. And don’t even get me started on all of the stuff they’ve done wrong with Halsey and the Elites…