Halo 4 on the new Xbox

I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the launch of the Xbox one has resolved any of the issues with lag on Halo 4. I do apologise if I have posted this in the wrong section or if it is a repeat post. I know there was frame rate lag in 4 on the Xbox 360 did the Xbox One resolve this problem. Did it resolve anything else or cause any more concerns. I know there were to be dedicated servers but was that launched for Halo 4 or just waiting till the next halo game. I do not play Halo 4 because of the frame rate lag because I really only played was on the same screen so I have been playing reach. Just let me know what you are seeing with the Xbox One and Halo 4 better, worse, same.

Xbox 360 games (including Halo 4) are not compatible with the Xbox One.

Link: Game backward compatibility between Xbox consoles

Really so in other words when I do buy an Xbox one I have to buy games that go along with the console. Is it just me or does this not SUCK!!!

> Really so in other words when I do buy an Xbox one I have to buy games that go along with the console. Is it just me or does this not SUCK!!!

to me it sucks, now if you want to keep playing the games you have and the new games, you have to have both a 360 and the new xbone. though to be fair I thought I had read somewhere where they had addressed that and made it so that you could load your old games on to the new xbox.

as for the lag on H4 dedicated servors would go a long way on getting rid of a lot of it

> > Really so in other words when I do buy an Xbox one I have to buy games that go along with the console. Is it just me or does this not SUCK!!!
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> to me it sucks, now if you want to keep playing the games you have and the new games, you have to have both a 360 and the new xbone. <mark>though to be fair I thought I had read somewhere where they had addressed that and made it so that you could load your old games on to the new xbox.</mark>
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> as for the lag on H4 dedicated servors would go a long way on getting rid of a lot of it

To the best of my knowledge, the only thing they’ve discussed is the possibility of providing a cloud-based streaming game service to offer older titles.

Link: Microsoft demonstrates Halo 4 streaming from the cloud to Windows and Windows Phones

> Really so in other words when I do buy an Xbox one I have to buy games that go along with the console. Is it just me or does this not SUCK!!!

That’s the way it’s always been, dude. The current generation is the first (and only) generation to support mass backwards compatibility. Sounds like PC gaming might be more for you.

I would not say PC gaming is for me I just don’t understand why they would not make it so halo 4 would work on the new console. I am still getting one at some point, I was not fully read up on the new console and all the features or missing content, I was thinking with this new release that my friend and I could go back and play 4 without the frame rate lag Unfortunately (for 343i) we will still play Reach until it is resolved.

What do mean I can’t play NES games on my Super Nintendo?!?!?

Replied to the wrong thread haha

> I would not say PC gaming is for me I just don’t understand why they would not make it so halo 4 would work on the new console. I am still getting one at some point, I was not fully read up on the new console and all the features or missing content, I was thinking with this new release that my friend and I could go back and play 4 without the frame rate lag Unfortunately (for 343i) we will still play Reach until it is resolved.

Because there is no point in wasting valuable resources of the Xbox One to play old tech. You obviously already own a 360 like the vast majority of us. I played Halo 2 on my 360 for a while but that was it. If i had to continue playing in on my original Xbox It wouldn’t have bothered me. I still have my Atari for gods sake.

> I would not say PC gaming is for me I just don’t understand why they would not make it so halo 4 would work on the new console.

Because that doesn’t make sense from a mass-production standpoint. Do you want the One to cost $600+? How about stay $500 but have the tech dumbed down?

> Really so in other words when I do buy an Xbox one I have to buy games that go along with the console. Is it just me or does this not SUCK!!!

It’s not just you as plenty of people feel this way, but to be honest, I never understood this mentality. What’s the point of buying a new console just to play old games? Presumably, you already have the old console anyway. Why not just use that?

Yes, I understand that with backwards compatibility, it’s a little more convenient to play games, you can free up a spot in your entertainment center, and possibly get a small amount from GameStop for selling your old console, but really, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Compared to the effort (and possibly compromises) it takes to make a backwards compatibility work, even for just a portion of the old game library, it’s not worth it. I’d much rather have a new console that was designed from the ground up for whatever goals the platform maker wants to achieve, without being held back by the ball & chain of backwards compatibility.

I suppose I must admit my bias here though. Currently, my entertainment center has all of these consoles hooked up and playable:

NES, SNES, N64, GameCube (with GBA Player), Xbox, PS2, Wii, Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii U.

I also have a PS4 and Xbox One for which I have to physically swap the HDMI connection with my 360 if I want to use them, but that’s just because I haven’t yet figured out how I want to permanently rearrange my set up yet.

> > Really so in other words when I do buy an Xbox one I have to buy games that go along with the console. Is it just me or does this not SUCK!!!
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> That’s the way it’s always been, dude. The current generation is the first (and only) generation to support mass backwards compatibility. Sounds like PC gaming might be more for you.

The fact that both Sony and MS both failed to add something as basic as backwards compatibility to the next gen when we KNOW it’s possible because we have it right now on the current gen is simply inexcusable.

> The fact that both Sony and MS both failed to add something as basic as backwards compatibility to the next gen when we KNOW it’s possible because we have it right now on the current gen is simply inexcusable.

Backwards compatibility is non-trivial.*

*That’s really all that needs to be said, but for the sake of argument, I will expand. First of all, backwards compatibility IS trivial if the new platform is the same as the old platform, but simply “scaled up” (same exact platform, but hardware is faster, has more memory, etc). However, if this is your approach to developing new platform, then you are shackling yourself to whatever design decisions were made on the old platform. Game consoles are not usually made this way.

“we have it right now on the current gen” Yeah and it was non-trivial. This took time, effort, and money for both MS and Sony to implement, and it still didn’t work 100%. Not all Xbox games work on the 360 (in fact many don’t), and some only partially work and suffer from glitches. If you will remember, backwards compatibility didn’t even work at first on the 360. It was enabled with later updates.

There are all kinds of technical reasons why backwards compatibility is not simple. No one is claiming it’s impossible. It’s definitely not. However, you don’t get it for free.

So if you are Sony or MS, you have to ask, what is the cost to enable an acceptable level of backwards compatibility? What is the benefit if we have it? What is the opportunity cost (if we put engineers to work on backwards compatibility, what other cool stuff could they have been working on instead)?

I don’t think Xbox One will effect Halo because, let’s be honest, the lineup isn’t that good until Titanfall and that’s just one game. It’ll take a year or so for Xbox One to get some good games.

> The fact that both Sony and MS both failed to add something as basic as backwards compatibility to the next gen when we KNOW it’s possible because we have it right now on the current gen is simply inexcusable.

Just because something seems small or basic doesn’t mean it is, and just because it’s possible doesn’t mean it’s easy. Every single Xbox game had to have its own update (“emulation profile”) in order to be compatible. That process was probably very trivial, especially considering the number of games that were made compatible.

i seriously don’t care and actually can’t understand why others do.
i mean, xboxone will have halo 5 and to be honest, it can’t get much worse
than halo 4. besides this, with titanfall and destiny the xboxone will have
two another very interesting mp-shooters.