I don’t want to seem like I’m putting too much pressure on the talent over at 343i, but I think there is a lot of truth to what I’m saying. Amidst a vast library of popular, third party titles that can be really hard to beat these days, Halo 4 needs to retake its throne and become the system seller it once was. Now, I’ll use the word “successful” carefully because there are varying definitions of success in today’s industry, but I’m taking a firm position that in order for this game to be a true success, it needs to be the number one game on Xbox… the kind of game that will make everyone forget about games like CoD and remember that this is Xbox, and regardless of what you are playing or prefer now instead, this game is why you have an Xbox in the first place and this is what you should be playing.
To me, that’s the sign of a great exclusive title and a gaming phenomenon like the series was from CE through Halo 3. Following the release, it needs to be topping the Live chart for months with all the other competitors where they should be: below.
Please don’t think for a second that I don’t think any other games are worthy of the highest order of success, but I think we can all agree we’d like Halo to keep it’s megaton identity.
Edit: So it isn’t misconstrued, I’d like to make it clear that I’m referring more to a large sense of community, and not the importance of sales numbers from a literal standpoint.
Hopefully the phrase “History Repeats Itself” applies itself here, and Halo does get back to the top.
Or you could just play the game and even influence some of your friends into playing it. Don’t worry about the sales of Halo 4, they’ll be good or greater than what we’ve seen before. Let the suits (or casualistas) at Microsoft Studios worry about it. All you have to do is enjoy your purchase.
> Or you could just play the game and even influence some of your friends into playing it. Don’t worry about the sales of Halo 4, they’ll be good or greater than what we’ve seen before. Let the suits at Microsoft Studios worry about it. All you have to do is enjoy your purchase.
You should be a higher rank in the forums.You are very wise.P.S. Im not being sarcastic
it would if 343i used my ideas 
> Or you could just play the game and even influence some of your friends into playing it. Don’t worry about the sales of Halo 4, they’ll be good or greater than what we’ve seen before. Let the suits (or casualistas) at Microsoft Studios worry about it. All you have to do is enjoy your purchase.
I see what you’re saying, but I honestly wasn’t thinking sales literally. I’m more interested in a huge online community that towers what we’ve seen before, and it’s completely possible. There are a lot more Xbox’s in circulation now than there were ten years ago. Of course sales numbers will mirror this, but that was not my intention with the comment. I merely am hoping that 343 is able to… remind all the Xbox gamers out there about what a story driven FPS can and should be, and provide a super compelling multiplayer component that can pull gamers back towards something different and special (away from all these military shooters, some of which are admittedly quite good though).
> it would if 343i used my ideas
No Cube it won’t (caugh* caugh* Everyone Hates Tornado Guns cccccccaaaauuugggggghhhhh*) Personally I and and atleast 45 others on the forum who are like me would leave halo 4 if we saw your ideas
> I see what you’re saying, but I honestly wasn’t thinking sales literally. I’m more interested in a huge online community that towers what we’ve seen before, and it’s completely possible. There are a lot more Xbox’s in circulation now than there were ten years ago. Of course sales numbers will mirror this, but that was not my intention with the comment.
A huge online gaming base for your title is based solely on whether or not its good to go from the start. If you have a glitchy and unplayable title, most will just move onto the better game that’s out there. You have to hit the ground at a full steroid-infused sprint in order to get an online community addicted. Call of Duty, despite the obvious downsides, does this perfectly.
If Halo 4 can achieve the same success as Infinity Ward and Treyarch have at their launch, then we’ll be seeing activity on par with their releases.
> > it would if 343i used my ideas
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> No Cube it won’t (caugh* caugh* Everyone Hates Tornado Guns cccccccaaaauuugggggghhhhh*) Personally I and and atleast 45 others on the forum who are like me would leave halo 4 if we saw your ideas
I FRICKIN LOVE this Sylan guy
> > I see what you’re saying, but I honestly wasn’t thinking sales literally. I’m more interested in a huge online community that towers what we’ve seen before, and it’s completely possible. There are a lot more Xbox’s in circulation now than there were ten years ago. Of course sales numbers will mirror this, but that was not my intention with the comment.
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> A huge online gaming base for your title is based solely on whether or not its good to go from the start. If you have a glitchy and unplayable title, most will just move onto the better game that’s out there. You have to hit the ground at a full steroid-infused sprint in order to get an online community addicted. Call of Duty, despite the obvious downsides, does this perfectly.
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> If Halo 4 can achieve the same success as Infinity Ward and Treyarch have at their launch, then we’ll be seeing activity on par with their releases.
Yes, I totally agree. Hopefully Halo 4 can differentiate itself from its competitors by first and foremost delivering a compelling, quality experience not marred by bugs or other deficiencies.
Even if Halo 4 is perfect it will never outsell COD is reclaim the charts, unless COD dies.
That is why all ranking arguments on Xbox Live against Reach are invalid.
Even Halo 3 is losing to COD4…
BurstingBox478, this is basically the point I’m trying to make. I still believe that Halo deserves that top spot, it’s just that people seem to have forgotten. I will hope for the best. My enjoyment of this game does not depend on anything other than it being a good title, regardless of adoption rate. But, if anyone remembers back in the Halo 3 days, how CoD4 basically copied every single thing the halo franchise was doing and took the lead based on that, it’s no wonder it’s a huge success. They even added sticky grenades and multi-kills in later games.
I mean, I loved both games, but I think console FPS games have been riding off an old/stolen/recycled formula for way too long. Halo was the franchise to innovate, and while it may not be as drastic, I hope this new game can achieve a similar effect.
> Even if Halo 4 is perfect it will never outsell COD is reclaim the charts, unless COD dies.
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> That is why all ranking arguments on Xbox Live against Reach are invalid.
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> Even Halo 3 is losing to COD4…
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was released just a short time after Halo 3 did and in my opinion, was the last properly great release Activision Blizzard has had with that franchise. Doesn’t surprise me at all to be honest.
> > > it would if 343i used my ideas
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> > No Cube it won’t (caugh* caugh* Everyone Hates Tornado Guns cccccccaaaauuugggggghhhhh*) Personally I and and atleast 45 others on the forum who are like me would leave halo 4 if we saw your ideas
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> I FRICKIN LOVE this Sylan guy
same he’s a nice guy
OT yeah we need to be 1
> > > > it would if 343i used my ideas
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> > > No Cube it won’t (caugh* caugh* Everyone Hates Tornado Guns cccccccaaaauuugggggghhhhh*) Personally I and and atleast 45 others on the forum who are like me would leave halo 4 if we saw your ideas
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> > I FRICKIN LOVE this Sylan guy
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> same he’s a nice guy
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> OT yeah we need to be 1
Thanks guys and I am surprised that Cube of all people would complament me after complaetely hating your ideas
I agree. If it weren’t for Halo CE and Halo 2, I don’t think that I would have bought an xbox in the first place. The kind of impact the first trilogy had on the gaming community and industry was immense!!! Some developers (mainly treyarch and infinity ward) really owe
a lot to bungie for helping the xbox sell so well and thus, making Call of duty being what it is today.
One thing that I hope is that they don’t try and add anything from other games just because they work well in that game. I hate it when games do that. Based on what I’ve heard from 343, they wouldn’t do anything like that though so I don’t think that’s something to worry about.
If it follows closely to the original trilogy, Halo 4 will exceed Halo Reach and continue to attract and maintain a large population, but I don’t think Halo 4 will keep at the top of the live charts, because of Call of Duty’s huge following. However, I have hope.
I’m sure a lot of people are excited about the continuation of the series and the return of Master Chief, even people that left Halo because of Reach are probably interesting in Halo 4. All 343 has to do is focus on making a great game and the rest will fall into place.
> Even if Halo 4 is perfect it will never outsell COD is reclaim the charts, unless COD dies.
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> That is why all ranking arguments on Xbox Live against Reach are invalid.
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> Even Halo 3 is losing to COD4…
Halo 4 could easily beat COD, xbox sales only obvioulsy, alot of casuals play COD because you can just hop on and start playing really fast, the gameplay is fast, and it takes very little skill, that is why so many casual gamers love it.
and the ranking and rewards system in COD are good because every little thing you do you get rewarded for, Now I really do not like COD but if they do one thing right it is how they reward their players, always getting rewards is nice.
If Halo 4 can master a ranking and rewarding system it will rake in players.