Halo 4 needs change

Why cant we have progressive system and a rank system like in halo 3?

There is no negatives to this. You cant say people will stop playing because they cant get to level 50 all they will do is play social, which if you don’t realize thats what people did in halo 3 days.

Look i love this game i really do but when I get idiots on my team and im facing a team thats partied up its ridiculous. Whatever happening to searching alone and finding a team of randoms? It doesnt happen anymore you will get matched with a full team.

And I’m not trying to sound like a whining kid but halo has been losing its touch for awhile now. Bring this game back to its roots. Not one part of me can take this game serious. No one seems to care about winning they care about camping in a corner to protect their K/d. The team work aspect of this game has left for solo play and selfish players.

> Why cant we have progressive system and a rank system like in halo 3?
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> There is no negatives to this. You cant say people will stop playing because they cant get to level 50 all they will do is play social, which if you don’t realize thats what people did in halo 3 days.
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> Look i love this game i really do but when I get idiots on my team and im facing a team thats partied up its ridiculous. Whatever happening to searching alone and finding a team of randoms? It doesnt happen anymore you will get matched with a full team.
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> And I’m not trying to sound like a whining kid but halo has been losing its touch for awhile now. Bring this game back to its roots. Not one part of me can take this game serious. No one seems to care about winning they care about camping in a corner to protect their K/d. The team work aspect of this game has left for solo play and selfish players.

Ranked and Social playlists will solve this problem. Hell either or will solve this problem.

If you want to bring halo back to its roots you have to make it an arena style shooter first. What we have now is not what halo was, it is glorified cod. But i do agree 1-50 or something similar would be a step in the right direction a small one yes. Halo 4 needs alot of change to get back to the roots of what made halo halo and it is needed in my opinion.

> If you want to bring halo back to its roots you have to make it an arena style shooter first. What we have now is not what halo was, it is glorified cod. But i do agree 1-50 or something similar would be a step in the right direction a small one yes. Halo 4 needs alot of change to get back to the roots of what made halo halo and it is needed in my opinion.

I wouldnt even call it a glorfied CoD, its more of a dumbed down CoD with longer kill times. Yes Halo is not meant to be a class based shooter…

Halo has improved beyond every halo ever made. The ranking system is fine. People seems to want the same old halo games wrapped in different boxes with new names, tell me, how is halo 1 2 3 reach or odst different from each other in gameplay? Their not!

Here I’ll break every halo’s gameplay down.

1 jump
2 empty an entire clip
3 throw all grenades
4 melee
5 MAYBE KILL

RIDICULOUS! Its childish outdated crap that 343 has turned into a real multiplayer experience and the best halo campaign ever. Both gameplay and graphics.
Some people will say obsurd things " graphics dont matter "
REALLY? Is THAT why when EVERY next generation console is released the NUMBER 1 aspect noticed is GRAPHICS and its one of the primary specs boasted with every gen, not to mention with every passing year most developers improve graphics.

To clarify, graphics and gameplay are equal, triple A games aka killer apps have both, if one is lacking the game is worthless, that fact has been proven for over 20 years.

Not many people know but a development team who helped make every Call Of Duty help 343 to make halo 4 multiplayer which stands to reason why aspects of COD are in halo 4 making it INCREDIBLE.

343 and every developer who makes shooters is well aware the market that sells is the hardcore shooter gamers, people who like the fast action and FAST KILLS, not 10 YEARS of reaction time. Every halo before halo 4 was populated by kids, what a shocker when the multiplayer needed no skill to play, tons of over shield with weak weapons resulting in long drawn out lame battles that were always the same, nothing ever changed until Halo 4, 343 did an outstanding job.

I see a lot of old school halo players who are complaining that halo 4 isnt just another REPEAT of EVERY halo in the past, whats the matter? Halo 1 2 3 reach and ODST were not enough of the same old crap?

Im not attacking anybody directly and nobody in the thread who posted so far, the title of the thread drew me in for my opinion not what has been said. Im simply sick of seeing people complain halo 4 isnt good when its amazing, obviously more poeple like Halo 4 than dislike, its the second most played game on xbox live and the sales speak for themselves.

My post is my opinion. I know flamers will reply, flamers reply to the slightest negative comment on every forum for lack of something better to do.

> Halo has improved beyond every halo ever made. The ranking system is fine. People seems to want the same old halo games wrapped in different boxes with new names, tell me, how is halo 1 2 3 reach or odst different from each other in gameplay? Their not!
>
> Here I’ll break every halo’s gameplay down.
>
> 1 jump
> 2 empty an entire clip
> 3 throw all grenades
> 4 melee
> 5 MAYBE KILL
>
> RIDICULOUS! Its childish outdated crap that 343 has turned into a real multiplayer experience and the best halo campaign ever. Both gameplay and graphics.
> Some people will say obsurd things " graphics dont matter "
> REALLY? Is THAT why when EVERY next generation console is released the NUMBER 1 aspect noticed is GRAPHICS and its one of the primary specs boasted with every gen, not to mention with every passing year most developers improve graphics.
>
> To clarify, graphics and gameplay are equal, triple A games aka killer apps have both, if one is lacking the game is worthless, that fact has been proven for over 20 years.
>
> Not many people know but a development team who helped make every Call Of Duty help 343 to make halo 4 multiplayer which stands to reason why aspects of COD are in halo 4 making it INCREDIBLE.
>
> 343 and every developer who makes shooters is well aware the market that sells is the hardcore shooter gamers, people who like the fast action and FAST KILLS, not 10 YEARS of reaction time. Every halo before halo 4 was populated by kids, what a shocker when the multiplayer needed no skill to play, tons of over shield with weak weapons resulting in long drawn out lame battles that were always the same, nothing ever changed until Halo 4, 343 did an outstanding job.
>
> I see a lot of old school halo players who are complaining that halo 4 isnt just another REPEAT of EVERY halo in the past, whats the matter? Halo 1 2 3 reach and ODST were not enough of the same old crap?
>
> Im not attacking anybody directly and nobody in the thread who posted so far, the title of the thread drew me in for my opinion not what has been said. Im simply sick of seeing people complain halo 4 isnt good when its amazing, obviously more poeple like Halo 4 than dislike, its the second most played game on xbox live and the sales speak for themselves.
>
> My post is my opinion. I know flamers will reply, flamers reply to the slightest negative comment on every forum for lack of something better to do.

I never said I wanted another halo 2 or halo 3 game. This game just needs a ranking system along with a social system with progression system. Im not going to attack you but last I checked anybody can pick up halo 4 and do decent enough, this halo game by far is the easiest one that has been made. The game loses its lust after so many games where even if you lose you get something for it.

The reason why CoD does so well is because once you hit the max rank you can prestige and start again. Which even to hit the max prestige takes months of gaming while Halo 4’s max rank can take as little as 4 weeks. Which does not promote people to want to continue to play the game.

All arguments about a rank system can be said about any system in any game. People cheat nothing will change that. At least in reach you had to pas your shots not just spam a dmr and get a kill cross map.

IMO Best Halo from worst to best

REACH, MM Got bored with stale maps aka Forge World 24/7
Halo 4 Noob Friendly
ODST This beats H4 mainly for Firefight.
HALO 2 Fun all the time but the glitched killed fun sometimes
HALO 3 Most online skilled game played you had to lead shots for a scifi shooter
HALO CE Just a Classic

Halo 4 was made for all the noobs. Look at the maps they are all BTB maps mainly. We have maybe 2-3 maps for arena and then rest are BTB even maps that are said to be for 6-8 players.

> Halo has improved beyond every halo ever made. The ranking system is fine. People seems to want the same old halo games wrapped in different boxes with new names, tell me, how is halo 1 2 3 reach or odst different from each other in gameplay? Their not!
>
> Here I’ll break every halo’s gameplay down.
>
> 1 jump
> 2 empty an entire clip
> 3 throw all grenades
> 4 melee
> 5 MAYBE KILL
>
> RIDICULOUS! Its childish outdated crap that 343 has turned into a real multiplayer experience and the best halo campaign ever. Both gameplay and graphics.
> Some people will say obsurd things " graphics dont matter "
> REALLY? Is THAT why when EVERY next generation console is released the NUMBER 1 aspect noticed is GRAPHICS and its one of the primary specs boasted with every gen, not to mention with every passing year most developers improve graphics.
>
> To clarify, graphics and gameplay are equal, triple A games aka killer apps have both, if one is lacking the game is worthless, that fact has been proven for over 20 years.
>
> Not many people know but a development team who helped make every Call Of Duty help 343 to make halo 4 multiplayer which stands to reason why aspects of COD are in halo 4 making it INCREDIBLE.
>
> 343 and every developer who makes shooters is well aware the market that sells is the hardcore shooter gamers, people who like the fast action and FAST KILLS, not 10 YEARS of reaction time. Every halo before halo 4 was populated by kids, what a shocker when the multiplayer needed no skill to play, tons of over shield with weak weapons resulting in long drawn out lame battles that were always the same, nothing ever changed until Halo 4, 343 did an outstanding job.
>
> I see a lot of old school halo players who are complaining that halo 4 isnt just another REPEAT of EVERY halo in the past, whats the matter? Halo 1 2 3 reach and ODST were not enough of the same old crap?
>
> Im not attacking anybody directly and nobody in the thread who posted so far, the title of the thread drew me in for my opinion not what has been said. Im simply sick of seeing people complain halo 4 isnt good when its amazing, obviously more poeple like Halo 4 than dislike, its the second most played game on xbox live and the sales speak for themselves.
>
> My post is my opinion. I know flamers will reply, flamers reply to the slightest negative comment on every forum for lack of something better to do.

Not to flame you but you seriously have no idea what the previous Halos were about. The longer kill times are exactly what made Halo take skill, not like cod where you can just turn a corner and the first person to align his sights wins.

Halo was always a shooter where everyone started out on equal grounds, when an opponent came after you you knew he had the exact advantage over you that you had over him. Weapons on the map gave slight advantages to players, but keeping track of weapon spawns and having map control took skill. No power weapon dominated everything either (you could dodge an entire rocket launcher explosion by jumping) now the grenade speed and arc makes two grenades a death sentence no matter what. This fast paced, superior class picking gameplay that halo has decended to was a slap to the face to the fans of the previous Halos. What it has done is appeased to the “mainstream” shooters and people like you who never liked Halo multiplayer to begin with.

And the ignorance of saying that graphics are a major role. Just look at the huge following that Minecraft has gotten. Fans who are open minded enough to look past good graphics and see the true beauty of the game and not just the amount of pixels shoved into one texture.