Halo 4 is Going to Have its Flaws

And name me one Halo game that hasn’t had it’s flaws.

Halo 1? The almighty CE that veterans beg 343 to return to? In terms of modern multiplayer balancing, the much favored pistol is the most unbalanced, overpowered weapon I ever remember. The only thing that comes close, in my mind, is the pre-patch dual 1887’s in Modern Warfare 2.

Halo 2 was the series’ debut on Xbox Live, and the game that most competitves want a return to. I had hardly any experience with Halo 2, as I didn’t have XBL-capable internet, but even Halo 2 had it’s drawbacks. I remember many people claiming it was rather common for a Rumble Pit match to devolve into “kill the guy with the Energy Sword”. Vehicle drivers and pilots cried foul at the lock-on Rocket Launcher. Foot soldiers claimed the dual SMG’s were nothing more than spray-n-pray. Lastly, I’m told that it was impossible to legitimately reach the top of the ranking system.

Halo 3? The game that set Xbox Live records for years? Yep. Flaws. Hardcore players denounced Equipment much akin to how they complained against Armor Abilities in Reach. The two most common wars were Battle Rifle users vs. Assault Rifle users, and the endless debate on the 1-50 Truskill system. Accounts being sold online were all too common, despite being against the Terms of Use. Large numbers of 50’s believed 49’s and below weren’t worthy to eat the dirt beneath their feet. MLG wannabe’s began spoiling the good name that the true pros had worked so hard creating for themselves. A good amount of SWAT players condemned those who played as Elites.

Halo ODST brought a new and much anticipated mode: Firefight, and with it, completed the 7 Vidmaster achievements to unlock the much revered Recon armor, which rustled the jimmies of some of the players who were awarded it by Bungie.

Halo Reach brought some of the most drastic changes the franchise has seen. It seemed to divide the community in two: those who adapted and continued to play the franchise they loved, and others fought hard against the casual-centric changes that had invaded. Armor Abilities were either shunned or embraced. Bloom was adapted to or raged against.

Halo 4 is not going to be perfect. I believe whether changes are made or not, people are going to complain against Armor Abilities, Loadouts, Sprint for everyone, CTF, and anything that even hints at favoring a casual player.

I have always been equal parts casual and competitive. I play for fun, yet try my hardest to win every game. So the extremists on both sides are what is worst for the community. Everyone who has had hands on time with Halo 4 has said it is very much still ‘Halo’. For once, for once, can we embrace the changes? Halo 4 is going to be the perfect blend of Halo 3 and Reach.

One thing absolutely has to work: Matchmaking.

New and less talented players should never encounter skilled ones. A system should be in place to help identify and prevent de-rankers and similar troublemakers so newbies and casuals never have a poor experience with hardcores wanting to lay the smackdown on some unsuspecting “BK’s”.

Very well said OP . . .

That’s all there really is to say.

> Very well said OP . . .
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> That’s all there really is to say.

Thanks. Tried to keep it as neutral as I could.

My favorite part is when you said you’re a casual and competitive player.
Strange thing nowadays.
But I’m right with you there.
Though I spend probably over 75% of my time in Customs, I always play to win.

There is no such thing as they perfect game. Frankie said it himself.

Very well said. While I do know that Halo 4 will undoubtedly have its flaws, I know I’m going to love it and play it to death. Just like when I played Halo 1 ten years ago, and the same way I love Halo Reach now even though it’s not perfect either.

The most important thing to me is to have fun, yet I still have that competitive side to me as well. It’s a mix of wanting to win and do well, but I don’t get mad if I do bad or lose.

In short, your post was perfect, I agree wholeheartedly.

Every game has its flaws, Everyone in the world has yet to see the perfect game

I agree with you! Lol, I’m a Vet AND a competitive player and I honestly have no desire for a Halo CE/Halo 2 copy, I want the series to move forward not fall back to the early 2000s

When it comes to Complainers…If its not one thing… It’s another…

And lets not forget those who complain to “Fit In”.

And those who complain just for the sake of Complaining.

> When it comes to Complainers…If its not one thing… It’s another…
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> And lets not forget those who complain to “Fit In”.
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> And those who complain just for the sake of Complaining.

And those who complain to try and stop the complaining.

Don’t all video games have their flaws?

Well played OP, well played.

Completely agree. If matchmaking works then halo 4 works. All there is to it.

> Well played OP, well played.
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> Completely agree. If matchmaking works then halo 4 works. All there is to it.

At this point, all we can hope is it will work.

name a game that has not had a flaw?? Not one game will ever be perfect people need to deal with it

Halo 4 will have flaws? Well no -Yoink-, I think everybody who isn’t a fanboy is aware of that, OP.

> name a game that has not had a flaw?? Not one game will ever be perfect people need to deal with it

Ocarina of Time

:smiley:

ITT: Perspective.

Good thread. Funny thing is, i cant even believe there are many people left anymore who actually played halo 2 during its era. Is been 8 years. Did you know only about 100,000 people tops really played halo 2 online? Do you know how much smaller XBL was back then in 2004? The day before H2 came out, xbox live only had about 50,000 people total, the day after it spiked to 125,000 or so and crashed the whole service.

All the kids calling for a halo 2 reskin are just that imo, kids who heard that halo 2 was like the best and think they are being cool by screaming for something they dont even know anything about.

When you think about it like that its really frustrating.

> > name a game that has not had a flaw?? Not one game will ever be perfect people need to deal with it
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> Ocarina of Time
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> :smiley:

I hate to do this, I really do, but…Water Temple.

OT: Thank you for restoring my faith in this forum. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen such a reasonable post.

> > > name a game that has not had a flaw?? Not one game will ever be perfect people need to deal with it
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> > Ocarina of Time
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> > :smiley:
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> I hate to do this, I really do, but…Water Temple.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! ;-;

It was so close. It’s ok OoT; I still love you.

No game is perfect. Any game is destined to have its own flaws. It depends on how much its merits can overshadow its flaws.

Best we can do is give feedback after playing Halo 4, so 343i can use it for Halo 5.