"Halo 4 is Dead"

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There is something among this fanbase that needs to be cleared up. Because most of it is ignorant of the facts. The above statement is not at ALL true.

First off, H4 isn’t number 1. Sure. It’s number 4 most played. Dead, right? I remind all of you that Reach was at the same place as Halo 4 is currently back when it had come out 4 months ago. Halo 4 has to compete with Black Ops 2, Minecraft (a game literally everyone bought because of the already huge fanbase on the computer, the kid rating, and the low price), and FIFA, again a kid rated game that is enjoying a popularity spike because of the soccer season and its fanbase world wide. So it’s pretty safe to say Halo 4 will soon be back to spot 3, just like how Reach regained the spot from FIFA 12. And Minecraft also had a spike because of the updates, so it’ll probably go down too. But if those games do not falter in popularity, Halo 4 is still number 4 and I don’t see how that is classified as “dead”.

Now, about specific pop numbers. First off, all of Halo 3’s UU data was presented in a 24 hour counter. That means it shows the total number of unique users on the game for the last 24 hours. When you go onto Halo 4, you see the population is around 50,000. First of all, that is the number of people playing War Games Matchmaking in a game at the very moment you look at it. Not last 24 hours, not last hour, not last minute. It does not account for Spartan Ops, Forge, Custom Games, Theater, or just idle players in the lobby like Halo 3’s counter did.

And about those Halo Charts graphs. That site offers two charts: populations at certain times of the day and daily peak population. We’ve ruled the first one out, so what about the second? Doesn’t that account for the last 24 hours? No. It shows the highest number of users on the game at one time for any given day. So if you had 50,000 players at 9, then 80,000 at noon, then 60,000 players at 8 PM, then your daily peak would be 80,000. That is not the total.

Hope I cleared up some things.

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Don’t care if it’s alive or dead. I just know that my friends and I aren’t playing it. First Halo game we’ve ever lost complete interest in. And that was the first month after release.

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I wouldn’t say Halo 4 is dead, but I wouldn’t go beyond saying it is on life support.

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Halo had to compete with CoD, FIFA and other games before… Not only that but there were less unique users on Xbox in 2007 than there is now.

Halo 3 had over 1 million people playing on the first day it was released. A feat yet to be broken. Halo 4’s population is poor considering it is 2013.

I hated Reach, but Halo 4 is so bad I actually appreciated Reach more now. I’m not playing it, because Halo 3 is so much better. But that isn’t the point. This game is awful, I’m being patient, but at the moment I hate Halo 4.

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Didn’t a thread just get locked like this? Why create another one?

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I have to admire COD… shows the true ignorance of ppl… such a simple game, hardly changes… so-on, that there will ruin gaming future… through evolution, why ppl want easier games I have no idea… Bots are the answer, Gears had it right, now they to are evolving… pity to, such great games… hope they both continue to make great campaigns.

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It is dead for many individuals. Eventually individuals add up.

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I’m a big fan of halo and i tell this with sadness, Halo right now is BORING !!

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Daily Halo 4 Population Thread

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i love halo but halo 4 is died like i stop playing it got boring so fast halo reach i was playing non stop i think it was the leveling up part i liked the most on reach and also the extra items you could add on to the helmet and other armor pieces. 343 need to do something about this rank system fast more and more players are not happy and stop playing after 130 rank maxed out

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I didn’t ask for any of your opinions on the game itself. The reality I’m trying to put across is that the game is not dead. You may be disappointed that it is not number 1 like it used to be, but the game is not dead. It’s not on life support. It switches between 3 and 4 on the activity charts. Quit the hyperbole.

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> …Halo 4 has to compete with Black Ops 2, Minecraft (a game literally everyone bought because of the already huge fanbase on the computer, the kid rating, and the low price), and FIFA, again a kid rated game that is enjoying a popularity spike because of the soccer season and its fanbase world wide. So it’s pretty safe to say Halo 4 will soon be back to spot 3,…

Firstly, your using “low price” is irrelevant. Halo 4 has sold millions and yet the continuing number of players is very low. It isn’t how many copies were sold, but how many sold copies remain in play. Clearly Minecraft and CoD have a high R/S (replay to sold) ratio and Halo 4 has a low R/S ratio.

Second, there is no come back for Halo 4. It is a lost cause at this point. Most of the population won’t return even if significant changes were put into place. The Throwup playlist proves this. The best thing 343i can do is put all their efforts into Halo 5 and learn from their mistakes.

Finally, I would agree it isn’t dead, but it isn’t dancing around with energy either - it is in the ICU at this point.

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> I didn’t ask for any of your opinions on the game itself. The reality I’m trying to put across is that the game is not dead. You may be disappointed that it is not number 1 like it used to be, but the game is not dead. It’s not on life support. It switches between 3 and 4 on the activity charts. Quit the hyperbole.

Just because a lot of Halo fans are upset with a game you love doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it. So dry those eyes and go play Halo 4!

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@MrGreen
Price is irrelevant? Hardly. Minecraft (on 360, mind you) sold much more than both Black Ops 2 and Halo 4.

Second of all, number 4 is not in the intensive care unit. The game’s doing fine.

And as for people coming back, look at Reach’s old stats. The game made a remarkable comeback over the summer after it came out. It went from number 5 to 3.

@Pope
I’m not saying the game is perfect. It has lots of issues. I agree a lot with the “Halo 4’s terrible and I feel terrible” thread. But I just think people are misinformed here or are just a bunch of drama queens. I’m a Bungie Forum guy. Everyone there hates Waypoint because they think it’s either filled with blatant fanboys or butthurts. I post a constructive thread here and all I get is hyperbole and “STOP LIKING WHAT I DON’T LIKE”.

I’ll probably get banned for this post, so I’ll just take it to the Flood and have a more thoughtful conversation there.

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> Halo had to compete with CoD, FIFA and other games before… Not only that but there were less unique users on Xbox in 2007 than there is now.
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> Halo 3 had over 1 million people playing on the first day it was released. A feat yet to be broken. Halo 4’s population is poor considering it is 2013.
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> I hated Reach, but Halo 4 is so bad I actually appreciated Reach more now. I’m not playing it, because Halo 3 is so much better. But that isn’t the point. This game is awful, I’m being patient, but at the moment I hate Halo 4.

Chill Halo 3 was a power house to even call Fifa and stuff like that competition is like saying the latest Batman film had competition with Brides Maids. Halo Back then was so damn big hmm couldn’t even call it competition you could just feel it in the air. Now its 4 years later after a break and with a new studio and apparently there at the same skill and experience as bungie with the Halo series because they (mostly MS) are in control of Halo. Anyway ive moved on unlike a lot of people and ive recognized the problems and moved to trying to find fixes that appeal to classic and New. the game has potential to possibly be almost as good as Halo 3 but its never going to reach it if instead of providing reasonable constructive criticism people just go over population like a Beliber goes over ticket sells. People are spending too much time going over the bad and not enough time actually making a good impact towards fixing the game. there were some I see people who I’ve seen some changes as things started to get a little better. Especially with the info-graphic ( which BS angel has replied to ) started by one lone TRUE HALO FAN that started something instead of just sitting on forums all day crying. Don’t know how just whining and cursing a company is going to bring Halo back.

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Masterz, don’t even try, it’s not Halo 4 that’s on life support, it’s this gosh darned Forum.

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Im seeing more lag and longer search times then when i played in November. What games have come out that are really good since halo 4 came out? Not many if any at all. Gears will most likely push halo 4 out of fourth. Halo won’t be going up anytime soon. There are less and less people playing every week. I doubt Halo 4 will see a pop. increase by the end of the year. 343 should just get the csr and TU up and then leave halo 4 to wither so they can concentrate on Halo 5 and maybe Halo 2 Anniversay. If they make 2A then they should make the Halo 2 Multiplayer with revamped graphics not the crap they did with CEA.

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> > It switches between 3 and 4 on the activity charts. Quit the hyperbole.
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> Just because a lot of Halo fans are upset with a game you love doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it. So dry those eyes and go play Halo 4!

These two quotes, ad infinitum. The hyperbole is out of control in this forum. How difficult can it be to keep an open mind and play the game despite its faults? You might actually find yourself enjoying things instead of setting yourself up for a lifetime of disappointing expectations.

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> > > It switches between 3 and 4 on the activity charts. Quit the hyperbole.
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> > Just because a lot of Halo fans are upset with a game you love doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it. So dry those eyes and go play Halo 4!
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> These two quotes, ad infinitum. The hyperbole is out of control in this forum. How difficult can it be to keep an open mind and play the game despite its faults? You might actually find yourself enjoying things instead of setting yourself up for a lifetime of disappointing expectations.

There is literally no place in this dimension or any parallel dimension that has as much hyperbole than this forum. It makes people cry. Stop the madness!

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> ^^
> Price is irrelevant? Hardly. Minecraft (on 360, mind you) sold much more than both Black Ops 2 and Halo 4.
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> Second of all, number 4 is not in the intensive care unit. The game’s doing fine.
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> And as for people coming back, look at Reach’s old stats. The game made a remarkable comeback over the summer after it came out. It went from number 5 to 3.

While I support Halo 4 I have to point you in the right direction. Its not doing fine. Way better than the games people are saying are better than Halo 4 but still not doing so good. The Community has bounced back and there has been growth in 343 and the Community but there are still come who are just out there to destroy the game.