All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
Halo 4 i will say was not complete when released. They needed to do more weapon balancing and should of had a multiplayer beta (to my knowledge they didnt have one but if they did then you can just act like i never said that). There were many things needing to be fixed. Even I a halo fan to the end was annoyed at the beginning.
But as every new update came i began to like it better because it was finally becoming my expectations. Now i believe the game is great. The only thing they could do better is just take that bolt shot out (still hate that weapon lol).
i have seen a couple of people say the Br is too powerful. let me put it to you straight. Its not. I have killed BR users with every starting weapon in the game except storm rifle (i have never used it). Dont get me wrong its a strong weapon but you can beat it if you are good with other weapons and hey if you cant beat it join it and start using it even though if you practice enough you can beat it.
It all takes practice and skill. HALO IS NOT COD!! YOU MUST HAVE SKILL TO PLAY! Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game. Im tired of all the haters when this game is now good.
> All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
Get a grip on what, reality? Because most of those people already have statistics and rational arguments to back up their various claims.
> I have killed BR users with every starting weapon in the game except Storm Rifle. Don’t get me wrong its a strong weapon but you can beat it if you are good with other weapons. If you cant beat it join it and start using it even though if you practice enough you can beat it.
I’ve killed people with the Plasma Pistol, doesn’t make it balanced for combat. Anecdotal evidence only carries so far.
As for “If you can’t beat them, join them”, that is simply conceding the weapon is imbalanced to begin with.
> HALO IS NOT COD!! YOU MUST HAVE SKILL TO PLAY!
I disagree. Hitscan weaponry with significant aim assist was one of the things that turned me away from the game. Being able to avoid any punishment with the press of the Left-Bumper was another.
> Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game.
I’m already playing (several) other games. I’m still going to stick around the forums regardless.
> > All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
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> I’ve killed people with the Plasma Pistol, doesn’t make it balanced for combat. Anecdotal evidence only carries so far.
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> As for “If you can’t beat them, join them”, that is simply conceding the weapon is imbalanced to begin with.
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> I disagree. Hitscan weaponry with significant aim assist was one of the things that turned me away from the game. Being able to avoid any punishment with the press of the Left-Bumper was another.
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> > Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game.
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> I’m already playing (several) other games. I’m still going to stick around the forums regardless.
I mostly agree with the armor ability thing, except for thruster and hologram. And to the op, while it does take more skill to play than cod, it is significantly easier than previous halo games. The game as it stands is average, and has a long way to go before being good.
> All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
> Halo 4 i will say was not complete when released. They needed to do more weapon balancing and should of had a multiplayer beta (to my knowledge they didnt have one but if they did then you can just act like i never said that). There were many things needing to be fixed. Even I a halo fan to the end was annoyed at the beginning.
> But as every new update came i began to like it better because it was finally becoming my expectations. Now i believe the game is great. The only thing they could do better is just take that bolt shot out (still hate that weapon lol).
> i have seen a couple of people say the Br is too powerful. let me put it to you straight. Its not. I have killed BR users with every starting weapon in the game except storm rifle (i have never used it). Dont get me wrong its a strong weapon but you can beat it if you are good with other weapons and hey if you cant beat it join it and start using it even though if you practice enough you can beat it.
> It all takes practice and skill. HALO IS NOT COD!! YOU MUST HAVE SKILL TO PLAY! Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game. Im tired of all the haters when this game is now good.
Now Jack, while I agree on the most part, I can think of several time you, me, and Toy have gone back to halo 3 and just went on and on how much better it was compared to halo 3. Lol, but yeah it’s a completely different game now than it was at the start, and I enjoy it a lot more now. By the way when I saw your name on this thread I was like…i have to go read it and comment.
> All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
I take issue with this kind of behavior and don’t get me wrong, I have seen it on both sides. You enjoy your game and that’s fine. Just because I don’t believe that it is a good game doesn’t mean that I would tell you to “get a grip”. You are allowed to have your opinions and voice them on this forum just as I, and many others, are allowed to do the same.
> HALO IS NOT COD!! YOU MUST HAVE SKILL TO PLAY!
You’re right when you say that Halo is not CoD. However, Halo 4 is mimicking CoD in some of the things it has implemented. I’m not really going to go through and list them all because they have been mentioned time and time again by multiple people.
You’re also correct when you said they should get rid of boltshot. That would be a marvelous idea considering how many people have had issues with it. 
> Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game. Im tired of all the haters when this game is now good.
It is a good game to you. It is an opinion, not fact. To sit there and say that the rest of us should remain silent because we don’t enjoy the game or agree that it has become “good” isn’t really reasonable. If you don’t wish to read the comments that haters post then simply ignore them.
As far as people leaving to play a different game, well it’s quite obvious that several people have done that already.
> All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
> Halo 4 i will say was not complete when released. They needed to do more weapon balancing and should of had a multiplayer beta (to my knowledge they didnt have one but if they did then you can just act like i never said that). There were many things needing to be fixed. Even I a halo fan to the end was annoyed at the beginning.
> But as every new update came i began to like it better because it was finally becoming my expectations. Now i believe the game is great. The only thing they could do better is just take that bolt shot out (still hate that weapon lol).
> i have seen a couple of people say the Br is too powerful. let me put it to you straight. Its not. I have killed BR users with every starting weapon in the game except storm rifle (i have never used it). Dont get me wrong its a strong weapon but you can beat it if you are good with other weapons and hey if you cant beat it join it and start using it even though if you practice enough you can beat it.
> It all takes practice and skill. HALO IS NOT COD!! YOU MUST HAVE SKILL TO PLAY! Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game. Im tired of all the haters when this game is now good.
I agree completely, to me halo is still halo. If I’m really in the mood for traditional halo i’ll just play H3. I can almost always get a game within a couple mins on 3.
Yes for a while Halo 4 MP was CRAP. I quit for a while actually, but after the past few updates H4 is GREAT. Personally I love the cov carbine. I can take out multiple BR users with it no prob. A fast trigger finger and headshots and it rules. Plus personally halo 4 forge IS GREAT. Honestly screw forge world, i’ll take three different maps instead, well 4 with forge islands.
The only real prob I still have with Halo 4 is how easy warthogs bust. Unless you get a good driver (which in matchmaking is hard to come by) the warthogs are not that fun.
I still enjoy Halo 4 quite a bit, but I really hope that the next mainline title in the series goes back to basics. All the improvements they’ve made recently with updates and the like makes me hopeful and optimistic for the future. I’m sure it’s hard for the dev team to constantly see negativity, but I think everyone will get a new Halo that turns out to be a better game because of all the passion this community has.
> Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game. Im tired of all the haters when this game is now good.
I think you should learn what an opinion is. You may think the game is good, but that doesn’t make you right and everybody else wrong. I know folks like the OP get up in arms when the “haters” employ such logic, as evident by the existence of this thread. So what exactly is the point of this discussion? The OP thinks Halo 4 is good, so -Yoink- anybody who disagrees with him?
Riveting thread.
I’ve always enjoyed Halo 4.
In I think May, I had to stop playing because the DMR was just way too freaking ridiculous.
But the Weapon Tuning has made Halo 4 just so much better. I’m enjoying it way more than I first did.
The playlists are getting much better. Multi-Team is now the awesome 4 teams of 3 (still needs some gametype adjustments if you ask me). Though sadly Dominion isn’t a permanent playlist. And while I could care less about Legendary, those people have that option now, which means both parties can be happy, which makes me very happy.
And now Flood is just so much more freaking fun thanks to Hivemind. Seriously, I’ve never had so much with Halo’s Zombies since Halo 3’s Living Dead.
I’m thoroughly enjoying Halo 4. I’m loving what 343i is doing. Yes, they still need work, but for their first game, I think they’re doing amazingly. And I can’t wait for what they do next, especially with the next-gen.
As for the BR, it’s RoF is a bit tad too fast. Think of it as this, it’s a 4sk DMR with less RRR. The DMR was a god-weapon back then, and now the BR is essentially the god-weapon, but kills in even less time. Yes, it’s not as bad because all the other weapons have a way better chance. But when a perfect BR and a perfect Carbine face each other, and the BR is a guaranteed win every time, there’s something a tad bit wrong there if you ask me. I do believe the BR’s RoF needs a tad bit of a nerf, not too much, but juuuuuuust enough.
Loadouts still allow way too much customization (e.g. AAs and perks).
Plasma Pistols and Plasma Grenades are still loadout options.
Personal Ordnance still exists.
Random Ordnance still exists.
Bad skill matches still exist.
And no alternative (non-Infinity) playlists exist for vanilla Team Slayer or objective gametypes.
Yep, everything that I hated in Halo 4 is still there.
Just sort of glancing through the thread its apparent to me that most of the people posting and responding to this thread are forgeting that when you say “Halo 4” your talking about three different and distinct games, the Campaign play, the Spartan Ops, and then the War games.
I’ve said it before piecemeal in other places but I’ll distill it here again. The Campaign had a good story, but the play of it felt like a training film to teach the War Gamers how to use their new toys, no one will ever convince me that playtesting or forethought was given to the Spartan ops missions since everything about it screams its just War games with AI’s and objectives, and as for the War Games section I have no intrest in gaming in non co-op things so I don’t know anything about how it feels in there.
Did they do well with what they put out? Yes.
Are their ways that they could have done better? Maybe.
Is there such a thing as an over-powered weapon? Don’t even mention that till you can explain to me how your more likely to be killed by the butt of a shotgun instead of what comes out the barrel end.
Think that pretty well sums it up.
EDIT: Misread post.
People are entitled to an opinion, yes. I agree with the OP despite the terrible wording which happened to spark these arguments.
I believe what the OP meant is that Halo 4 has improved drastically. People still may not enjoy it and they are free to say it but Halo 4 is a good game. It has fantastic graphics, balanced multiplayer for the most part with some brilliant maps and new gametypes (e.g Ricochet, Dominion and Extraction), a fantastic campaign and lots of developer support. Just because you didn’t enjoy it doesn’t make it a bad game.
To add to that, Halo 4, currently plays pretty close to classic Halo (apart from in Infinity gametypes). People complain about Infinity settings despite there being alternatives such as Legendary BR’s. Granted, some people are constructive and voice there opinions in a mature manner. However this cannot be said for everyone. People come specifically onto the forums to complain about Halo 4 despite not playing since release or keeping up with the updates. Its pretty ignorant and builds up unneeded negativity around the game.
I feel people jump onto the negative bandwagon clueless to the goings on in Halo 4. People far over exaggerate the problems in Halo 4. Halo 4 isn’t perfect but its a defiantly a good game. Just a shame it didn’t live up to some peoples expectations.
> > All these people who complain about Halo 4 sucks or this weapon is overpowered really need to get a grip.
> > Halo 4 i will say was not complete when released. They needed to do more weapon balancing and should of had a multiplayer beta (to my knowledge they didnt have one but if they did then you can just act like i never said that). There were many things needing to be fixed. Even I a halo fan to the end was annoyed at the beginning.
> > But as every new update came i began to like it better because it was finally becoming my expectations. Now i believe the game is great. The only thing they could do better is just take that bolt shot out (still hate that weapon lol).
> > i have seen a couple of people say the Br is too powerful. let me put it to you straight. Its not. I have killed BR users with every starting weapon in the game except storm rifle (i have never used it). Dont get me wrong its a strong weapon but you can beat it if you are good with other weapons and hey if you cant beat it join it and start using it even though if you practice enough you can beat it.
> > It all takes practice and skill. HALO IS NOT COD!! YOU MUST HAVE SKILL TO PLAY! Halo 4 is a good game now and people who say its not need to stop complaining and either get good or go play another game. Im tired of all the haters when this game is now good.
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> I agree completely, to me halo is still halo. If I’m really in the mood for traditional halo i’ll just play H3. I can almost always get a game within a couple mins on 3.
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> Yes for a while Halo 4 MP was CRAP. I quit for a while actually, but after the past few updates H4 is GREAT. Personally I love the cov carbine. I can take out multiple BR users with it no prob. A fast trigger finger and headshots and it rules. Plus personally halo 4 forge IS GREAT. Honestly screw forge world, i’ll take three different maps instead, well 4 with forge islands.
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> <mark>The only real prob I still have with Halo 4 is how easy warthogs bust. Unless you get a good driver (which in matchmaking is hard to come by) the warthogs are not that fun.</mark>
This. Just last night, I had a driver attempt to 4x4 his way over the enemy warthog, which in turn flipped us, sending me out of the turret to a nice explosive death as the enemy warthog continued spraying bullets to the point that his teeth were shaking…
They truly are awesome with a great driver, but one fail driver can change it all.
I’m happy with the way matchmaking has been going lately. There’s been a lot less lag, to say the least.
> People complain about Infinity settings despite there being alternatives such as Legendary BR’s.
Legendary BRs is an alternative, yes, but not a reasonable alternative. You have to play in or back out of several Infinity/Team Slayer-voting lobbies in a row to get one game of Legendary Slayer BRs, which is the only “classic” gametype in matchmaking (that is, until Dominion comes back with Legendary Dominion on the 25th).
Perhaps multiplayer matchmaking is “getting good” for players who like Infinity settings, but for those who don’t, it is still very much partial towards Infinity settings.