Halo 4 Ending

Just watched people on ign playing halo 4 campaign and damn ive always liked the story from halo 4 and thought the graphics were a great improvement near the end of the xbox 360’s glory days but what i really enjoyed most about halo 4 was the deep dive into the relationship between Cortana and chief! The buidling on there relationship and finally having chief display some sort of emotion but most of all towards Cortana and his determination to save her just had me gripped and im not going to deny it every damn time i see that ending where she says bye to him i choke up and my eyes get a little watery! It kicks you right in the heart! And to me thats what made halo 4 so damn good! Then halo 5 happened and the way they went with the story was just so disappointing and created a absolute mess im losing faith in halo infinite being any good ive tried to stay positive but im struggling… i just hope they correct the story in halo infinite and i hope they take it back to how it used to be! I want to see Cortana back with chief i pray they can put a good twist on things to explain Cortanas crazy eccentric behaviour e.g the logic plague, forerunner corruption, just anything but do not kill her off or replace her with a different A.I! Halo is and always should be Master Chief and Cortana! And please stop trying to change so much in the halo games!!! We dont need a grappling hook we dont need loads of different abilities we dont need a new looking energy shield and we dont need loads of colours or shades or skins through micro transactions! just keep halo as it was a straight, simple enjoyable first person single/co op shooter!!!

Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.

Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

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> Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

I agree with you entirely. Even if we end up getting a “Good” Cortana for a portion of the campaign, it’s my hope she sacrifices herself to take down “Evil” Cortana. Halo 4 should have been her end. Keeping her around any further than this game just rubs her ending further into the dirt. There’s still the off chance that we’ll have the composed/digital Didact return in some form. I hope that’s the case. I’m still bummed that 343i scrubbed him of his potential.

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> I agree with you entirely. Even if we end up getting a “Good” Cortana for a portion of the campaign, it’s my hope she sacrifices herself to take down “Evil” Cortana. Halo 4 should have been her end. Keeping her around any further than this game just rubs her ending further into the dirt. There’s still the off chance that we’ll have the composed/digital Didact return in some form. I hope that’s the case. I’m still bummed that 343i scrubbed him of his potential.

He still could be back, the commatary for the comic literally said they ‘contained’ him so they could bring him back at another point.

But I feel like didact hype is kind of toast now.

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> Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

Totally agree with what your saying! And love the idea of that story arch! Would have veen way better than the train wreck that was halo 5! The story for hali 5 was awful and like you said bringing back Cortana completely took away her ultimate sacrifice and the emotion from halo 4’s ending but i feel since shes still in the picture id rather they revert her back to the old cortana…chiefs Cortana not keep her on as a villain or kill her off as one either! But yeah maybe if she has abit of a redemption story in infinite then dies a hero i can live with that… i just worry after halo 5 its going to be hard for them to steer infinite in a good direction

Also yes! I was very intrigued with the didacts character and wanted to see more of him! Did not expect them to cut his time so short in the games they should have definitely kept him and his story going in halo 5 and 6!

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> Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

I hear you on the Didact.
He was such an interesting character to introduce, a true personal foul for Chief. It really confused me that 343 used a comic to reveal his fake-out death and then kill him off again.
A few years ago I wrote a Halo 6 campaign and outlined the further of the series, which included the Didact, Atriox and the Arbiter becoming the triumphant of a new galactic covenant.

If they do bring him back, they should save him for an expansion to Infinite, and maybe make him an unlikely ally to Chief’s endeavours and explore the potential there, before the eventual betrayal and return to his villain status, perhaps aiding Atriox and the Banished?

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> Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

Wow… that sounds way better than what H5 did lol

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> > Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> > Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.
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> Wow… that sounds way better than what H5 did lol

Halo 4 was a good ending to start a trilogy on. The hero is back, there’s a new villain, and the status quo has been shaken up. There’s a lot of directions the story could have gone.

Halo 5 is a horrible follow up. Honestly, it feels like its trying to be the start of the trilogy, again. H5 spends time wrapping up the covenant in order to set up the Created, another new enemy (albeit piggybacking hypocritically on the Prometheans) while tossing the other one off screen. It introduces a giant cast of new characters for pretty much no reason. Locke and co have very little to do with the story being told despite having the most screen time. However, unlike h4 that left us curious what will happen next, halo 5 pretty much kills all excitement and gives us an enemy so strong that they’re hard to just ignore or sideline.

I did not like this at all. I understand what they were doing but I felt like there was just too much dialogue. I guess it was because it was supposed to end with her demise but I felt it took something away from Master Chiefs character… I agree with Martin O’Donnell’s take that Master Chief was supposed to be “us” the person playing the game…

If you don’t know what I mean take a look at a video by Dee Bee Geek at the 33:55 mark where they play together and he talks about it.

https://youtu.be/wytv7D9CcLc?list=LL&t=2039
Watching that video made me want to go back and replay the old Halo games 1-3 as they were my favorites. The original score tied in to the game-play made the game so cinematic that even today gives me chills when it kicks in.

Halo 5 was the worst hands down. If you removed that game from the series and continued from 4 it would benefit all of us greatly.
After watching the game-play for Infinite I am really hoping that they do NOT change the game-play from the Infinite trailer because it made me so happy and nostalgic!!
I think that they seemed to focus on the celebrities added to the game and fleshing out those characters and that really took away from it all.
I also didn’t like the game-play and engine… it just felt generic. It didn’t feel like a Halo game.

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> > Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> > Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.
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> I hear you on the Didact.
> He was such an interesting character to introduce, a true personal foul for Chief. It really confused me that 343 used a comic to reveal his fake-out death and then kill him off again.
> A few years ago I wrote a Halo 6 campaign and outlined the further of the series, which included the Didact, Atriox and the Arbiter becoming the triumphant of a new galactic covenant.
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> If they do bring him back, they should save him for an expansion to Infinite, and maybe make him an unlikely ally to Chief’s endeavours and explore the potential there, before the eventual betrayal and return to his villain status, perhaps aiding Atriox and the Banished?

The didact is still alive he was just heavily damaged by blue team. Personally I think he is the harbinger that was referenced at. But I like your idea better.

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> > > Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> > > Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.
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> > I hear you on the Didact.
> > He was such an interesting character to introduce, a true personal foul for Chief. It really confused me that 343 used a comic to reveal his fake-out death and then kill him off again.
> > A few years ago I wrote a Halo 6 campaign and outlined the further of the series, which included the Didact, Atriox and the Arbiter becoming the triumphant of a new galactic covenant.
> >
> > If they do bring him back, they should save him for an expansion to Infinite, and maybe make him an unlikely ally to Chief’s endeavours and explore the potential there, before the eventual betrayal and return to his villain status, perhaps aiding Atriox and the Banished?
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> The didact is still alive he was just heavily damaged by blue team. Personally I think he is the harbinger that was referenced at. But I like your idea better.

More precise to say he was composed.

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> I did not like this at all. I understand what they were doing but I felt like there was just too much dialogue. I guess it was because it was supposed to end with her demise but I felt it took something away from Master Chiefs character… I agree with Martin O’Donnell’s take that Master Chief was supposed to be “us” the person playing the game…
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> If you don’t know what I mean take a look at a video by Dee Bee Geek at the 33:55 mark where they play together and he talks about it.
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> Martin O'Donnell PLAYS Halo Combat Evolved! - NEVER seen before commentary! - YouTube
> Watching that video made me want to go back and replay the old Halo games 1-3 as they were my favorites. The original score tied in to the game-play made the game so cinematic that even today gives me chills when it kicks in.
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> Halo 5 was the worst hands down. If you removed that game from the series and continued from 4 it would benefit all of us greatly.
> After watching the game-play for Infinite I am really hoping that they do NOT change the game-play from the Infinite trailer because it made me so happy and nostalgic!!
> I think that they seemed to focus on the celebrities added to the game and fleshing out those characters and that really took away from it all.
> I also didn’t like the game-play and engine… it just felt generic. It didn’t feel like a Halo game.

I will check that video out bud thanks for you response on the subject and yes halo 5 was a absolute mess i wish infinite just continued straight from halo 4 and they pretended halo 5 didnt even happen! Bit like x men films how they basically went back in time and undone everything that happened in x men 3 cause it was so shocking haha i think 343 are concerned more about marketing and trying to sell as much halo content as possible thats the problem! They care more about selling there extra content in books and showing new ideas off with megablocks etc need to get a grip and concentrate on there games and stop having fans of the games having to get missing parts of the story from other sources of content for the sake of marketing!

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> Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

Which is more or less the initial plan (minus the destruction of the composer I guess) before MS marketing team yoinked everything over, because they needed a more recognizable face as the main villain. You’re welcome! :slight_smile:

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> Honestly, I don’t want Cortana back on a permanent basis. I felt bringing her back to be the big bad in Guardians completely undercut her sacrifice in 4. I’ll take a redemption to her character before she actually “dies” but that should be the end.
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> Writing out the didact was a big mistake in my opinion. He should’ve survived to be the main bad guy in 5 and then 6. He already hated humans and losing to the master chief would’ve only fueled that hatred. Plus, with the composer destroyed and unable to make more prometheans, it would’ve been the perfect set up to have him reform the covenant. 5 should’ve been didact reuniting all the alien races under his leadership to reignite a war against humanity. Chief could’ve had a personal vendetta fueled by the loss of Cortana with Blue team stepping in to fill that support role she offered.

Wow. Yeah. That’s honestly a better story than Halo 5 right there.


Good job 343!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/halo-4-would-have-been-the-perfect-ending-to-master-chiefs-story/amp/