Opinions?
Slayer Pro ≠ E-Sports
> Slayer Pro ≠ E-Sports
I beg to differ MLG pretty much has the same setting if they aren’t part of e-sports I don’t know what they are…
> > Slayer Pro ≠ E-Sports
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> I beg to differ MLG pretty much has the same setting if they aren’t part of e-sports I don’t know what they are…
Its the objective where MLG mostly differentiates itself, default objection always sucks.
Halo 4 was not made for e-sports it does not even have the “standard” e-sports features and 343 has gone out of their way to dumb down the most competitive game-types like CTF.
SC,LoL, and even Blackops 2 ALL have:
-Spectator mode
-Skill-based MM
-Developer run Tournaments
Halo 4 has NONE of that, Halo 4 is not made for e-sports and is not catering to competitve gamers.
I honestly feel betrayed as a fan of DM shooters like Quake,Unreal, and Halo that the Arena/competitve aspect has been removed from Halo. What am I going to play now that gives me that pure DM experience?
> > Slayer Pro ≠ E-Sports
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> I beg to differ MLG pretty much has the same setting if they aren’t part of e-sports I don’t know what they are…
The reason they have the same settings is that they can’t even be altered. Neither the instant spawns in slayer nor the broken CTF is optional.
And it would be Slayer pro -> E-sports anyway, because SP may be part of E-sports (for two days), but everything E-sport isn’t SP.
As for the article: all I gathered from it is that they didn’t.
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> Halo 4 was not made for e-sports it does not even have the “standard” e-sports features and 343 has gone out of their way to dumb down the most competitive game-types like CTF.
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> SC,LoL, and even Blackops 2 ALL have:
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> -Spectator mode
>
> -Skill-based MM
>
> -Developer run Tournaments
>
> Halo 4 has NONE of that, Halo 4 is not made for e-sports and is not catering to competitve gamers.
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> I honestly feel betrayed as a fan of DM shooters like Quake,Unreal, and Halo that the Arena/competitve aspect has been removed from Halo. What am I going to play now that gives me that pure DM experience?
Just because the rank isn’t visible doesn’t mean there isn’t skill base MM (Which there is)
I laughed at the beginning when he talked about Slayer being pro mode.
Then I saw Grifball and utterly lost it.
Stopped reading at Grifball
> Halo 4 was not made for e-sports it does not even have the “standard” e-sports features and 343 has gone out of their way to dumb down the most competitive game-types like CTF.
>
> SC,LoL, and even Blackops 2 ALL have:
>
> -Spectator mode
>
> -Skill-based MM
>
> -Developer run Tournaments
>
> Halo 4 has NONE of that, Halo 4 is not made for e-sports and is not catering to competitve gamers.
>
> I honestly feel betrayed as a fan of DM shooters like Quake,Unreal, and Halo that the Arena/competitve aspect has been removed from Halo. What am I going to play now that gives me that pure DM experience?
Spectator Mode is nice but not necessary.
Skill based MM is there its just invisible.
I believe there was an interview where Frankie said 343i and -Yoink!- might explore running tournies of their own.
> > Halo 4 was not made for e-sports it does not even have the “standard” e-sports features and 343 has gone out of their way to dumb down the most competitive game-types like CTF.
> >
> > SC,LoL, and even Blackops 2 ALL have:
> >
> > -Spectator mode
> >
> > -Skill-based MM
> >
> > -Developer run Tournaments
> >
> > Halo 4 has NONE of that, Halo 4 is not made for e-sports and is not catering to competitve gamers.
> >
> > I honestly feel betrayed as a fan of DM shooters like Quake,Unreal, and Halo that the Arena/competitve aspect has been removed from Halo. What am I going to play now that gives me that pure DM experience?
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> Spectator Mode is nice but not necessary.
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> Skill based MM is there its just invisible.
>
> I believe there was an interview where Frankie said 343i and -Yoink!- might explore running tournies of their own.
Halo is the most expensive game to run at tournaments by far because of a lack of spectator mode, that automatically limits its growth.
Skill-based MM as in ranked playlists are not there.
Microsoft has never done anything for competitve gaming, even EA has had Battlefield tournaments.
Just sick of the hypocrisy with this franchise, the interest is there and still they do nothing.
Wow, I posted the same thing earlier and nobody even took notice of it…
they did do a lot for esports in terms of understanding whats going on in a game for outside viewers but that’s about all they did.
If any of you were actually good enough to play on a pro level, you’d realize that the vast majority of a pro players time spent playing, is in custom games. Nobody playing in the e-sports scene is going to be negatively affected by ranked playlists, unless they became “pros” in reach or late late halo 3.
Does BO1 or MW3 have spectator modes?
> If any of you were actually good enough to play on a pro level, you’d realize that the vast majority of a pro players time spent playing, is in custom games. Nobody playing in the e-sports scene is going to be negatively affected by ranked playlists, unless they became “pros” in reach or late late halo 3.
The ranked playlists in H2+H3 were the “Gateway” to competitve gaming and MLG. They were THE PLACE for competitve gamers to play and it gave players a reason to want to party up and progress in skill, and as a result their skill rank. Halo 1 was different because you had to LAN, most multiplayer players were hardcore by default.
There is no place in MM for players who want to play competitively or get their feet wet in competitve Halo to play now. Its either social, or get wrecked in MLG. You will not see any growth with those extremes, there needs to be a starting place or a middleground and there is none.