Halo 4 DLC Achievement Fail :(

I am sure someone has complained about this before, however good luck in trying to unlock any of the DLC achievements at this point. I was working a lot of hours so I didn’t get the Castle or Bullseye DLC until recently. And now there is NO DLC playlist. :frowning: I have been playing Halo 4 pretty much exclusively for a week, and hardly get any DLC maps come up for vote, let alone get actually selected. BTH I can’t remember the last game I played on Shatter. As a game developer myself, I find this a serious FAIL on the part of the Halo 4 team. If you are going to tie achievements to matchmaking multiplayer AND tie them to DLC, it should not be that difficult to get the chance to complete them. It also doesn’t help that people always vote for the same maps in the Big Team playlist, which is required for some achievements because some maps are only in this playlist (Shatter). Of course I can’t blame the game for how people are voting, however there has to be some way to solve this. I am pretty sure that Halo 3 handled this pretty well by opening up the achievements at some point and allowing you to complete the DLC achievement in any DLC map. Come on 343, you employ a lot of smart talented people, you can come up with a way to fix this!

Don’t bypass the word filter.

And I think the way Halo 3 got around this problem was by making DLC required for basically everything. Which Halo 4 can’t do.

> I am pretty sure that Halo 3 handled this pretty well by opening up the achievements at some point and allowing you to complete the DLC achievement in any DLC map. Come on 343, you employ a lot of smart talented people, you can come up with a way to fix this!

No Halo 3’s DLC achievements are still map pack specific, except for Legendary achievements, which can also be done on Mythic maps (but either way still DLC map pack locked).

> And I think the way Halo 3 got around this problem was by making DLC required for basically everything. Which Halo 4 can’t do.

Can’t or won’t? (it’s not the same thing :)) They had DLC specific playlists which were recently removed. I can see two potential solutions, one being add in a DLC only version of Big Team, or fixing the map selection process by giving heavier preference to DLC maps. My guess is the game handles this by setting up playlists with potential values or each map in the list, and chooses random maps based on what players in the group have for DLC; giving a heaver potential value to DLC maps would help. We did something like this years ago when we did MX Vs ATV Alive, so people who paid for DLC would get a more likely chance to play it.

It personally sucks for me because I only recently bought the Castle map pack and have yet to play a single match on one of those maps. I feel like I wasted my money.

> No Halo 3’s DLC achievements are still map pack specific, except for Legendary achievements, which can also be done on Mythic maps (but either way still DLC map pack locked).

That is basically what I suggested. Having older DLC achievements unlockable on subsequent DLC maps (although preferably, any DLC map). My point is if you paid for DLC and they removed the DLC specific playlists, allowing you to unlock on other maps you have paid for seem reasonable at this time since getting a specific DLC map with the current set of playlists at this point is a crap shoot.

Wow, 5 days and no comment from 343 or a community manager? Oh but I guess people will always buy Halo so who cares about one upset consumer…

I am really pretty frustrated, and I cannot believe I am the only one who finds this an issue. I am not exaggerating, I have gone back over a week in my recent games, and only ONE game was in a DLC map. I have tried Team Slayer, Big Team, CTF, pretty much every playlist but team snipers and swat. Please, please do something to fix this for us who have bought DLC. I still have not gotten even one game in a Castle map to even attempt to complete the achievements. At this point I really do want my money back on the Castle DLC. :frowning: If the DLC maps come up so infrequently at this point the DLC should NOT be at full price.

/steps down from his soap box

they should have fixed the game and openly talked to the community at launch.

instead they kept quiet, released a war games pass and started lashing out map packs.

i dont know about anyone else but thats the reason i did not buy any dlc for halo4.(first halo i have never bought anything after launch)

same with the new battlefield, im going to wait for the game of the year bargin bin edition, because they announced map packs before launch.

I’d also like to voice my displeasure, it’s effectively impossible to get these achievements now. And it was only released 2 months ago?

I’ve never play on pitfall or vertigo!!! I’ve complained several times about this on the halowaypoint’s twitter account and they just reply “All DLC playlists are offered for a limited time.” I want my F money back!!

For Pitfall and Vertigo try King of the Hill playlist

I can’t find a King of the Hill playlist, is that region specific?

exactly why I’m irritated. I have DLC I have paid for, but never ever played a match on. if it is that hard for DLC maps to come up, they should not be full price.

I am sorry to say that, I managed to get all the achievements done on launch when they had playlists, I did them asap because I knew this would happen.

I play halo 4 quite a bit and the I played one DLC map on vertigo in likely the past few weeks I have played.

to be honest most players of halo 4 who were dedicated who have the DLC, most have likely stopped or gone back to previous halo title

this leaves alot of casuals left who mostly don’t have DLC, so getting everyone in a lobby with DLC to get a map is hard enough, to then even attempt the hard achievements within the map itself.

I feel for anyone who hasn’t yet got these achievements in hoping they add a DLC playlist so people can play the content they played for, unlikely as playlists in general are bad as of now

the only playlist I look forward to is rocket race, but I have to wait 2 months for that

BTW, since I never got a response from anyone official or a community manager, I posted a comment to the Twitter feed. the response I got was try to join up with people with DLC before entering matchmaking. while I appreciate the suggestion, this is not an ideal response. number one, not everybody has friends who play Halo and or have bought all of the DLC the packages. and number 2, the Playlists have a maximum party size and all players in the match must have the DLC for it to come up for a vote.

> I am sorry to say that, I managed to get all the achievements done on launch when they had playlists, I did them asap because I knew this would happen.
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> I play halo 4 quite a bit and the I played one DLC map on vertigo in likely the past few weeks I have played.
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> to be honest most players of halo 4 who were dedicated who have the DLC, most have likely stopped or gone back to previous halo title
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> this leaves alot of casuals left who mostly don’t have DLC, so getting everyone in a lobby with DLC to get a map is hard enough, to then even attempt the hard achievements within the map itself.
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> I feel for anyone who hasn’t yet got these achievements in hoping they add a DLC playlist so people can play the content they played for, unlikely as playlists in general are bad as of now
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> the only playlist I look forward to is rocket race, but I have to wait 2 months for that

as I said in my post, I was trying to ship a game myself which is why I was so late to coming to be newer DLC. to be honest, what’s probably going to happen come Tuesday is I’m going to start playing Battlefield 4. I am so f’ing tired of playing the same maps over and over (raknarok, exile and longbow). I don’t want to drop halo, I love halo, halo transitioned me from 1st person shooters on my PC to the Xbox, however the current setup of playlists along with my inability to get a chance to complete achievements I have left, well it’s causing me to get kinda bored. It’s sad really because I don’t get bored easily. :frowning:

EDIT: One thing about Battlefield is I never have to worry about getting to play with DLC I have purchased. There is always a server available to use it. +1 BF, -1 Halo :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

We’re with you HomerSimpson, this community is desperate for DLC integration. We have more topics posted about it than any other.

I have 500g of achievements I still need which I can’t get. 343 will come through for us soon.

They need to consolidate their 12 existing playlists.
There seems to be a playlist for everything at the moment.

CTF, T’Snipers, Action Sack and Throwdown could all exist under the same Team 4V4 playlist. I know CTF is 5V5, but hey, they’ll live.

Flood could be placed in to Rumble Pit, Swat in to Team Slayer.

They the populations of each playlist will be big enough to spin off a duplicate DLC only playlist.

There’s a lot of us that are upset about this Homer. I was deployed when Castle came out and I haven’t played the maps at all outside if customs. The same goes for all my friends that play it from my unit. Theres a lot of playlists that could go away but each time 343 overlooks the DLC issue. Why they won’t fix the DLC that the community has been very vocal about is nothing short of a blunder on their part. You’d think they’d fix the DLC before making more avatar items.

You’re not the only one Homer trust me. Let’s hope 343 comes through for us. At this point, I’d be happy with 343 addressing it in the forums. Are we at least being heard?

I had the same problem with the Reach DLC achievements, and ended up starting a clan to party up and fill up the entire lobby. Clan requirements were that everyone MUST have all DLC. Granted it took a while to get specific maps, but it helped to increase the chance percentage.

If you feel so inclined, head over to the Recruitment Forum and do the same; it’s the only way I know of to combat the lack of a specific DCL map.

Good luck, I know your pain.

are you doing all the halo game achievements? IF you do i want to some help on Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach and Halo 4.

P.s. I have Get the last map pack for Halo 4 with have to get this week ore next week.

Here is a transcript of the communication on Twitter between me and Halo Waypoint:

> the_rockkk ‏ 26 Oct
> @HaloWaypoint the lack of DLC maps coming up in the current playlists is disappointing. 1 DLC map played in 3 weeks? that’s wrong. :frowning:
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> Halo Waypoint ‏ 27 Oct
> @the_rockkk Sorry to hear that. You can see which maps are available in each playlist here: http://bit.ly/187d62S .
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> the_rockkk ‏ 27 Oct
> @HaloWaypoint Oh I am well aware of the playlists and their maps. The issue is with current playlists DLC almost never comes up for vote.
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> Halo Waypoint ‏ 27 Oct
> @the_rockkk Try going into matchmaking with other people who own the DLC.
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> the_rockkk ‏ 27 Oct
> While I appreciate the suggestion, that is not always practical. it also won’t work unless all players on both teams have DLC
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> the_rockkk ‏ 27 Oct
> @HaloWaypoint follow up. have you guys considered adding a DLC required big team playlist alongside the normal big team?
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> Halo Waypoint ‏ 11h
> @the_rockkk This would split up the Big Team Battle population, unfortunately.
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> the_rockkk ‏ 5h
> @HaloWaypoint BT is the lrgst & has 1500 plyers right now, 3x more than Tm Slyr, out of 3500 ttl plyrs. There seems room for plylst tweaking

The Big Team playlist easily supports the bulk of the current Halo 4 players. At 6am this morning (my time), this playlist had 50% of the active players. Even right now, 3500 of 9500 players are in BT, that is far more than any other playlist.

It really bothers me that no one from 343, or a Halo Community Manager has not commented on this thread, especially about the money issue. I am sure they have one, who else would be posting to Twitter…