Halo 4....disgraceful.

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This has been a trend for a while now, yet as of late it seems to have become more prevalent. I of course mean the attitude of “Well it’s their product, they can do what they want, you get what you get”. Why on Earth would anyone want to promote an ideal like that?

Yes, it is VERY prevalent in the video game industry lately. More corners cut, less product shipped, more unfinished products shipped. Why keep going like this? If you bought a TV and it shipped lets say without a few imputs working, less packing material was used, and the manual was basic with the complete one offered online, would you still buy this TV? What is the company promised to eventually fixed the issues at an unset date, because they were so proud of their TV that they just NEEDED to ship it out in this condition. Would you buy this TV?

It’s okay, even though it’s not finished the TV is still full price. I’m sure that’s fine with you though, it’s a new company and their first TV, even though it’s entirely run by industry veterans. Oh and they offered a higher definition, but then almost at the last minute made every TV the same HD. Those who bought the HD model were not compensated however, but they got a nice box and a complete manual out of the deal!

One last thing, the TV randomly powers off your cable and internet. You can still watch DVDs and stuff, so I’m sure you don’t mind.

Halo 4 is this TV. 343i is the TV manufacturer. Why are any of you defending levels of BS like this? If it were any other product the company would fail and be ostracized until they got it together again. Stop defending someone that shipped a half finished product and cut corners. They have no excuses and you shouldn’t give them any. So why do you?

tldr; 343i shipped Halo 4 half finished. If someone shipped a half finished TV you wouldn’t buy it. Why are you putting up with this?

List of overpowered weapons:

DMR
Bolt Shot
Plasma Pistol
Rail Gun
Sticky Detonator
Binary Rifle
Plasma Grenade

Guass Hog
Banshee
Mantis

They have a game named Halo 4 with a very strong core and a very nice netcode.

Good Job!

But, there are blatantly idiotic things in this game that makes me wonder “Why did they do this?”

  1. DMR - This 3x weapon zoom BREAKS literally every map. This weapon has “STANDOFF” written all over it. How can a utility weapon have such control of the map? Let’s imagine a map such as Ragnarok… I can cross map people from a safe location, and get POWER WEAPONS without even moving. Why would I even touch the BR if the weapon can not cross map? If you wanted the DMR to be a far ranged weapon, 343 should at least have the knowledge to lower the bullet magnetism

  2. Random Ordnance Drops - Tell me, who the hell thought of making RODs. Their thinking of how this helps new players is extremely wrong. When a new player finds a weapon on the map, he expects it to be at the same spot the next time it spawns. Why the hell do weapon drops need to be random? What good does it do? What balance does it bring? The fact is, it brings negative value to the game

  3. Maps - In Halo 4, there are literally 3 4v4 maps that work: Haven, Solace, and Abandon… 343 make a map pack saying they wanted to fill a big void in big maps? BIG MAPS? They shipped 6 huge maps, and only 4 4v4 maps. I understand they are coming out with a map pack with small maps, but it’s too damn late now. At least add forge maps into 4v4 slayer playlists.

  4. Playlist Management - How did 343 expect the several objective playlists to survive on its own? They already removed KoTH, and Oddball has less than 2K players.

  5. Can not turn off Sprint/Instant Spawn - I am sure Bravo has forced 343 to work on this problem, but why was this not available off of launch? Instant Spawn does not “speed” up the game. It BREAKS the game? This is not CoD where people die in 1 second. This is Halo, where shields recharge slowly and encounters take 2-3 seconds.

  6. Flinch - Why the hell can we not get unscoped when zoomed? Once again, this is not CoD where flinch works. This is HALO. HALO AND CoD ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES. Flinch is extremely random and breaks the skill that comes in winning a battle from far range down two shots.

  7. File Share - Why isn’t File Share working? Halo 3 had a working file share system at launch…in 2007(and it was the first halo fileshare system as well)

Add more problems that need to be addressed while this game has some life in it.

Also, if you like fair, balanced settings, MLG will be coming out with a playlist soon which may include the 4sk BR.

I never really understood why 343i released the beta onto shelves to be purchsed at full price. Normally gaming companies give betas out for free and you purchase the full game after if you enjoyed it.

I guess we get the full game when it is finally released for free! You know one that isn’t including any of the followings:

  1. Created a blatantly obvious CoD clone.

  2. Shunned more of their fan based causing more dramatic drops in population after release.

  3. Dropping the skill gap even more in Halo games. Making the game ‘kid’ friendly in a sense.

  4. Halo 4 doesn’t resemble a Halo game. It should just be called A Game 4.

  5. No weapons on map promote camping and there is no longer any incentive for moving around the map.

  6. Terrible and stupid fanbase on their website aiding the efforts of creating terrible ‘CoD’ gameplay.

  7. Failed to create a working file share.

  8. Failed to create a working campaign theater system.

  9. Destroyed custom games. Removed loved gametypes and removed all the ability to be able to make anything but lolHalo 4 out of them.

  10. Destroyed forge.

  11. Multiplayer netcode is terrible. Lag, killcams etc

  12. Solved the AA problem by adding in more and making them more OP. Once again creating Reach - I was more suited to the situation than you - encounters.

  13. Gives players power weapons hand delivered to them. No need for map control anymore.

  14. Campaign is once again full of plotholes.

  15. Dev team is made of people who have had no experience whatsoever in making a Halo game before. Hence why the game doesn’t resemble it.

  16. Spartan Ops. Terrible story. And terrible excuse for a gamemode. (Doing the same objective over and over again on the same maps in not ‘fun’, ‘new’ and ‘re-playable’ gameplay).

  17. Weapon sandbox is servery broken.

  18. Loadouts.

  19. Being able to spawn with a shotgun as a secondary.

  20. Instant re-spawns.

  21. Instant re-spawns in objective.

  22. ‘Perks’

  23. Uninspired maps and general terrible map design.

  24. No sense of level design to begin with.

  25. Removal again of powerups on the map.

  26. Halo Pokemon cards (You know those silly things you have to look at every Halo lobby).

  27. Sound design is awful in places. The music cannot be heard throughout the campaign, and there is no option to turn it up.

  28. Call of Duty unlock system - where you have to be a certain level to use a certain gun.

  29. General terrible company built upon the foundation of one objective in mind - Milk the series like CoD does and make lots of money until the series is inevitability ki

Most of the “overpowered” weapons you chose…are POWER weapons.

What? You want the rocket launcher and incineration cannon to be 4sk?

I cannot believe that you complainers literally write what you write, then read it…then re-read it…then post it anyways.

Might as well have just said “No variety. And only BRs in the game; 3sk of course.”

>_>

Well done for quoting ‘Gandhi’ and the rest of the sheep all over the forums.

That list of over-powered weapons is all wrong bar the DMR. The sniper rifle is over-powered? So you want it to be a 4 shot kill then? :L

OMG I’m sick of seeing stuff like this. You complain about people defending games that “are not completed and are broken,” yet then you list gameplay design choices as ways Halo 4 is “broken” according to you.

Did you ever think maybe 343 designers decided that “over powered” weapons are fun and what people want???

And then you also compliment their “net code.” Well whatever is behind their matchmaking, I’m assuming that’s net code, sucks because there is horrible lag worse than any Halo game before, and it takes forever to find players to get games going.

Nice copy/paste bro
;D

I love how he complained about the “Halo Pokemon” cards as well. Out of the more IMPORTANT -Yoink- 343i needs to attend to first…this guy mentions the lobby.

Obvious complaining to complain, complainer is obvious.

> Might as well have just said “No variety. And only BRs in the game; 3sk of course.”
>
> >_>

Hey, you know how some competitive players like to simplify games for their own benefit. “No AAs! BR only! Final Destination!”.

OP seriously get a life dude.

> Nice copy/paste bro
> ;D

HAHA I know I did it for the lo…never mind.

I honestly have no idea what to say.

Okay, sniper rifle, overpowered?

I see no difference in it from the last Halo installments?

1sk headshot, 2sk body.

Also, the Guass Hog was significantly reduced in RoF from Reach.
Moreover, the scattershot is a joke, not OP.

Wait, should I just keep going? No, I don’t feel like it. Every weapon you listed besides the DMR and boltshot is not OP.

Random ordinance drops and instant respawns are Two things that MUSTbe changed!

Thanks for wasting 5 minutes of my life. I shall once again say that there is nothing wrong with Halo 4…it’s the community.

> > Nice copy/paste bro
> > ;D
>
> HAHA I know I did it for the lo…never mind.

OP admits he is a troll. Everyone ignore this thread.

> Nice copy/paste bro
> ;D

Hahaha You beat me to it dude lol This guy (as well as the other one) is a joke. Some things he mentioned I can almost agree with but all the -Yoink- that was thrown in just washed it out.

AMEN

mantis being op really man? i get stunned with a pistol and then boarded and bam im dead. lets just say no its not op

> Did you ever think maybe 343 designers decided that “over powered” weapons are fun and what people want???

Its not and they are not. The population numbers speak for themselves. Why are people in such denial on this site? Most people do not like this game plain and simple. It needs some serious changes. If they are no made by January the numbers will keep dropping. I know I wount be playing.

> 21. Instant re-spawns in objective.

This. This right here. This one point you made tells me that the rest of your post is just a bunch of opinionated -Yoink-. How can I take anything you say seriously when you obviously don’t even know the game?

There are no instant respawns in objective games.

I’m sorry you didn’t like the game OP, but damn. If you hate this game, then I’d like to see what you do think is good. I’m going to say OP is a troll and call it a day.

EDIT: Another thing, your stats show you haven’t even played this game. At all. Not even a single mission of the campaign. Nice try.

WOW!!! RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! It’s as if I had a clone that speaks more eloquently than me. Mine would have included more profanity or if you prefer YOINK!

My favorite one? FORGE-DESTROYED I couldn’t agree more

GOOD JOB