I hope they can find a way to entice people to actually play Capture the Flag or any other Objective game type. Right now everyone just treats it like a slayer because there is no kill limit so they just run around trying to rack up kills. And you can’t just tell me to go and stick to Objective playlists either because it still happens a lot in there as well as say BTB. It’s just really annoying when you’re trying to go for the flag but you have no back up because everyone else is just screwing around.
That’s due to the cR system. I enjoyed social skirmish in Halo 3 but i adored ranked Team Objective and Team Throwback, unfortunately i only managed a 46 in TO and a 49 in TT before they were removed, i was devastated 
Ok super easy fix STOP PLAYING ALONE.
Play with friends or a team…
This is silly …
> Ok super easy fix STOP PLAYING ALONE.
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> Play with friends or a team…
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> This is silly …
How is it silly? The OP is making a fair point, rewarding people for playing objective games like slayer is idiotic.
> Ok super easy fix STOP PLAYING ALONE.
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> Play with friends or a team…
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> This is silly …
Interesting theory… except my friends and I are adults and our work schedules don’t always allow for us to get together in big groups to play. Not to mention Girlfriend/Wife time. Not all of us are super hardcore people who can get together and have big video game parties.
So if we can’t always get together to play then I would at least like to play with a group of people who are interested in winning. On another note I miss Halo 3’s party up system. It was easier to identify those who actually wanted to team up and work together.
I didn’t liked CTF many years ago, when it was just a Quake 2 mod and I don’t like it now. I prefer Team Slayer. Since I don’t have 7 friends at once to play with, objective game types are serious pain in the a… for me. I wish Big Team Battle was split into Big Team Slayer and Big Team Objectives, so I could play on bigger maps more.
Only objective game mode from any shooter that I like is Conquest from Battlefield series. It’s because you don’t need to hold any damn thing, that is slowing you down, as you’re trying to walk from one side of map to the other side of map, without even being able to defend yourself. 343i should make something similar in Halo 4.
> I hope they can find a way to entice people to actually play Capture the Flag or any other Objective game type. Right now everyone just treats it like a slayer because there is no kill limit so they just run around trying to rack up kills.
Actually some idea just run through my mind. What if finishing objective kills entire enemy team and those deaths are accounted as frags for person that acomplished objective? 8 frags at once is a reward worth fighting for. Making whole system work (how to count assists for those who helped?) is a bit tricky, but possible.
> Ok super easy fix STOP PLAYING ALONE.
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> Play with friends or a team…
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> This is silly …
What if all your friends all play for kills too? Or better yet what if you don’t have a ton of friends that play Halo and/or you’d rather play by yourself. If you’re in an objective game you should play to get or to cover the objective player. I’ve seen people purposely not grab a flag while in the enemy base and just go for kills until they were killed even when the had the perfect chance to grab and run.
I am a very objective focused player and I know about every single one of my friends are kill crazy and k/d oriented. I can’t change their mind about that. The only way you can get those people to actually play the objectives is to make K/D not count in objective. I’d <3 that. It’s not because I care how many times I die actually trying to gain hill time. It’s because maybe others would play to win and the game would be fun. When looking up stats for KotH the stats should avoid showing you K/D and show you average Hill time per game.
Have any of you actually ever played a full game of KotH in multiteam where every team had over 10 points? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. Their is always at least one kill mongering team.
~REMOVE K/D FROM OBJECTIVE SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY HELP THEIR TEAM OUT~
> > I hope they can find a way to entice people to actually play Capture the Flag or any other Objective game type. Right now everyone just treats it like a slayer because there is no kill limit so they just run around trying to rack up kills.
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> Actually some idea just run through my mind. What if finishing objective kills entire enemy team and those deaths are accounted as frags for person that acomplished objective? 8 frags at once is a reward worth fighting for. Making whole system work (how to count assists for those who helped?) is a bit tricky, but possible.
Your system would cause people to quit before caps and betray for caps.
Removing K/D stats for objective gametypes is the only way. I’ve been through this discussion since before Halo 3 was released a billion times now. It was a little better in Halo 2 because the game didn’t actually have an in game service record.
> ~REMOVE K/D FROM OBJECTIVE SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY HELP THEIR TEAM OUT~
That would probably help actually. K/D spread is irrelevant in Objective games and should be taken out. They should create a new system which identifies with the goal of the objective. Like how many times you scored or how long you held onto the ball and how many times did you stop the flag/bomb carrier or return the flag and disarm the bomb.
Objective stats. I like it.
> I didn’t liked CTF many years ago, when it was just a Quake 2 mod and I don’t like it now. I prefer Team Slayer. Since I don’t have 7 friends at once to play with, objective game types are serious pain in the a… for me. I wish Big Team Battle was split into Big Team Slayer and Big Team Objectives, so I could play on bigger maps more.
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> this is what i have been saying since they added slayer into btb. they need to bring btb back into a ranked setting and implement the two different hoppers.
> I hope they can find a way to entice people to actually play Capture the Flag or any other Objective game type. Right now everyone just treats it like a slayer because there is no kill limit so they just run around trying to rack up kills. And you can’t just tell me to go and stick to Objective playlists either because it still happens a lot in there as well as say BTB. It’s just really annoying when you’re trying to go for the flag but you have no back up because everyone else is just screwing around.
Also due to the fact that the onlinge gaming community is all about “skill” now instead of this “Fun” thing that some people talk about.
> ~REMOVE K/D FROM OBJECTIVE SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY HELP THEIR TEAM OUT~
They just added K/D for all Halo games, so it won’t happen in near future. However it have much sense.
> I hope they can find a way to entice people to actually play Capture the Flag or any other Objective game type. Right now everyone just treats it like a slayer because there is no kill limit so they just run around trying to rack up kills. And you can’t just tell me to go and stick to Objective playlists either because it still happens a lot in there as well as say BTB. It’s just really annoying when you’re trying to go for the flag but you have no back up because everyone else is just screwing around.
The problem is they need to add more points for achieving achieve an objective (flag capture, bomb detonate), as well as more points for attempting the objective (flag stolen, flag carrier killed, flag returned, bomb planted, bomb carrier killed, bomb disarmed), the more points they reward you for playing the objective and less for getting kills (maybe little to no points or credits for kills in objective), would make playing the objective more desirable, and thus make people want to play the objective properly.
The Reach community really needs to learn how to PTFO.
And they tell us to “adapt”. Phffft!