Halo 4 - BR Fix and Armor Lock variant

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Halo 4 BR Fix and Armor Lock Variant

Halo 4 BR Fix

Hey everyone, Woot, Halo 4 is coming out! Anyway, back at RTX and I think E3 there was build of Halo 4 where MLG players could get their feet wet in the new gameplay elements of Halo 4 multiplayer. There was only one problem - the BR is a 5 shot weapon now ):

I think the BR really should still be a 4 shot weapon, the issue is balancing this with the DMR’s 5 shot mechanic, this could be fixed where the trigger pulls are increased on the BR so that the DMR is a little quicker to put 5 shots on the player at the same time a 4 shot can also be performed. Although the other non UNSC weapons will also have to be play tested to make sure everything flows correctly.

Halo 4 Armor Lock Variant - "Bubble-Lock"

This one is a bit sticky, Halo Reach’s slayer playlist had a number of loud outs where players could choose: Sprint, Jet pack, Armor Lock, Invisibility, Hologram. Most of these armor abilities worked with one another to kind of make a “rock, paper, scissors shoot” type of game, the one armor ability that made matches have a snag in was Armor Lock.

This can also be resolved with a newly revised version of it can be brought back in Halo 4, this new armor ability would effectively be a hybrid between the original armor lock and the classic Bubble Shield. here are the specifics:

  1. Small shield, more personal
  2. Bubble takes damage
  3. Player cannot move
  4. No regen effect in bubble

In Halo 4, as far as I can tell, the armor abilities are more personal and not team oriented, Which is why the bubble will become more personal and will not be able to fit multiple players. Furthermore, the damage that the bubble will take are as follows as well:

  1. 2 grenades
  2. Sniper shot
  3. Shotgun shot
  4. Railgun blast
    5) Rocket will destroy bubble and kill player
    6) Sp. laser will destroy bubble and kill player

I really do want to see these two take effect, but if not, Halo 4 will still be beast

343, if you see this PLEASE consider! Thanks

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Armor Lock was easily the dumbest AA ever. There doesn’t need to be any defensive AA

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I trust 343 knows what there doing with the BR, and when it comes down to it armor lock was a halo mood killer. I would not welcome its return. Although I think we can all agree a throw able bubble shield like in halo 3 would be something we want to see. Not as an armor ability but at least a custom games option. I miss duck hunt.

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The hardlight shield already acts as a personal armor lock that does not have the same degree of invincibility. As for the BR, I’d let 343i figure out what is balanced and what isn’t. If a 5sk is the best way to balance it, then let it happen.

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armor lock was confirmed by Frank to not be returning it was at the SDCC panel QnA

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The Hardlight Shield is the new armor lock. Please quit complaining that the BR is a 5sk, so many complaints about that. It seems balanced anyways.

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> There doesn’t need to be any defensive AA

I agree, we have so many of them that they’re all practically useless.

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Why are you talking like MLG players are the only players?

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The BR is already balanced people!

It is not meant to beat the DMR at range and is better against the DMR in CQC (What people have been talking about on youtube after RTX)

if the BR became a 4SK it would overpower the AR and other CQC weapons, it is BALANCED in its niche and does not need any tweaking.

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No form of armor lock in any way. NO.

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Never armor lock ever again, I only play Swat and BTB because of armor lock any more. Yes I know armor lock is in some BTB gametypes, But it’s much easier to counter/avoid in BTB. It still ruins vehicle combat. It used to take skill and situational awareness to avoid being splattered. Now it’s just “hear ghost? better armor lock”

Even in it’s nerfed TU form, it’s still game breaking. And also confirmed to not be in Halo4 in any form.

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easy fix to armor lock.

AL—>trashcan—>trash compactor—>rocket ship—>sun—>black hole—>different universe—>big crunch.

If you know what the big crunch is give yourself a cookie.

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Battle Rifle

  1. It’s 5 shot? why isn’t it 6-7?
  2. I square to bob The BR being 4 shot was horrible, it’d only be acceptable if the other weapons were stronger which they SHOULDN’T be.

Armor Lock

  1. It’s not coming back, I loved it but I’m looking forward to the hard-light shield.
  2. I like your personal bubble idea only-
    A. You should be able to move/abandon the shield freely.
    B. Enemy cannot enter (unless via speeding vehicle).
    C. Has short duration time/long recharge but is invulnerable.
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> Battle Rifle
> 1. It’s 5 shot? why isn’t it 6-7?
> 2. I square to bob The BR being 4 shot was horrible, it’d only be acceptable if the other weapons were stronger which they SHOULDN’T be.
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> Armor Lock
> 1. It’s not coming back, I loved it but I’m looking forward to the hard-light shield.
> 2. I like your personal bubble idea only-
> A. You should be able to move/abandon the shield freely.
> B. Enemy cannot enter (unless via speeding vehicle).
> C. Has short duration time/long recharge but is invulnerable.

Well I can finally see your point and others view that the BR is a 5-shot weapon, When I think about reach and how they implemented the DMR in the game, it was suppose to be a replacement for the BR, at least temporarily. I realized that even if they didn’t make the DMR and instead put the BR in Halo Reach, the BR would be a 5-shot without question because of balancing issues. The DMR was there to not piss off BR fanboys because it basically is a NEW gun, so no one can complain.

Oh, and thanks for thinking the “Bubble-Lock” AA was a good idea, I know a lot of people do like the ability, and it feels like a classic in the Halo universe. I just wanted something like it but just nerf the sh*t out of it. Armor Lock in Reach is annoying as hell, but I wanted something to make Armor lockers and Bubble shielders happy with this idea.

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> easy fix to armor lock.
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> AL—>trashcan—>trash compactor—>rocket ship—>sun—>black hole—>different universe—>big crunch.
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> If you know what the big crunch is give yourself a cookie.

Opposite action to big bang.

BAM!

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BR is to be a 5 shot kill. Reasons:

  1. DMR needs to have a place in the game. If the BR can do the DMR’s job just fine, the DMR becomes pointless.

  2. We got a power up that increases the damage of any weapon. If we got a 4 shot kill gun, it could possibly become a 3 shot kill(which Frankie is flat out against when it comes to starting weapons), or the power up becomes pointless if they had to tone down the power up to not make a real difference.

If you want a 4sk BR, you’ll want to use your ordinances on a Damage boost. Otherwise, use the Firepower Tac.Pack and get the DMR.

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Nah OP, Armor Lock was a bad idea from start, it couldn’t work in a p2p game and over all it was just a bad idea. The BR is tweaked and balanced to the other Halo 4 weapons, not to Halo 3 or Halo Reach ones, hence a 4, 5 even 9 shot BR could make sense depending on the other weapons in the sandbox.
Not to mention they can always change the weapons with updates post release if something is OP/too weak :slight_smile: