Halo 4, #1 on XBL?

Dear 343/BS Angel

There was a time when Halo was the king of console FPS and XBL. It wasn’t taken down by another game that was imitating Halo, all of those supposed “Halo Killers” floundered and died. Instead Halo was dethroned by a game (COD) that did its own thing that was NOTHING like the then current king, Halo 3.

The history lesson here is that you don’t beat the top dog by doing what it does best. You beat it by doing what YOU do best.

<mark>Learn from history 343, or be doomed to repeat it.</mark>

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OOOOOO get called out frankie

halo has never been the premier FPS game. It may of been the top xbox fps game, but in terms of ALL FPS games, its never been the top dog.

maybe halo will be the top xbox fps when halo 5 comes out on the xbox 720, since there might not be that many other popular titles out by then

> halo has never been the premier FPS game. It may of been the top xbox fps game, but in terms of ALL FPS games, its never been the top dog.

Not true at all dude. If you are a Pre halo Wars fan than you know what I mean.

> halo has never been the premier FPS game. It may of been the top xbox fps game, but in terms of ALL FPS games, its never been the top dog.

That’s wrong. Before CoD nothing else was even in the vicinity of Halo’s popularity. It’s why the designation Halo killer even came about. Everyone was gunning for Halo.

> > halo has never been the premier FPS game. It may of been the top xbox fps game, but in terms of ALL FPS games, its never been the top dog.
>
> That’s wrong. Before CoD nothing else was even in the vicinity of Halo’s popularity. It’s why the designation Halo killer even came about. Everyone was gunning for Halo.

Again, re read what I posted.

It may have been the top “XBOX” fps game, but in terms of “ALL” FPS games, it is not the top game.

Counter-strike has been the pinnacle of online FPS shooters far longer than halo’s been around. It is the most popular tournament FPS game around and also the most profitable/lucrative.

As of August 2011, the Counter-Strike franchise has sold over 27 million units.

…and the Halo franchise has sold over 50 million.

Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.

> Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.

Well, would you rather win the superbowl or get blown out in the superbowl? but hey at least you made it to the superbowl… You do know that all those athletes consider it a failure to lose in the playoffs.

no. its championship ring or bust

> > Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.
>
> Well, would you rather win the championship or get knocked out in the preliminaries, but hey at least you made the playoffs…
>
> no. its championship ring or bust

I told you, I would rather be #1… but #3 is perfectly fine.

“If you’re not first, you’re last” is a flawed way of thinking.

> > > Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.
> >
> > Well, would you rather win the championship or get knocked out in the preliminaries, but hey at least you made the playoffs…
> >
> > no. its championship ring or bust
>
> I told you, I would rather be #1… but #3 is perfectly fine.
>
> “If you’re not first, you’re last” is a flawed way of thinking.

but if I wanted a job, and i’m 2nd best, I’d be in the same circumstance as the people 3rd-999999th

> > > > Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.
> > >
> > > Well, would you rather win the championship or get knocked out in the preliminaries, but hey at least you made the playoffs…
> > >
> > > no. its championship ring or bust
> >
> > I told you, I would rather be #1… but #3 is perfectly fine.
> >
> > “If you’re not first, you’re last” is a flawed way of thinking.
>
> but if I wanted a job, and i’m 2nd best, I’d be in the same circumstance as the people 3rd-999999th

Flawed analogy. Halo isn’t applying for a job.

EDIT: Besides, that’s assuming there’s only ONE job opening, which sometimes isn’t the case.

Good post man, I completely agree. Halo needs to go back to its roots and do what it does best. Not imitate COD and put all this randomness into the game. Back to basics.

> > > > > Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.
> > > >
> > > > Well, would you rather win the championship or get knocked out in the preliminaries, but hey at least you made the playoffs…
> > > >
> > > > no. its championship ring or bust
> > >
> > > I told you, I would rather be #1… but #3 is perfectly fine.
> > >
> > > “If you’re not first, you’re last” is a flawed way of thinking.
> >
> > but if I wanted a job, and i’m 2nd best, I’d be in the same circumstance as the people 3rd-999999th
>
> Flawed analogy. Halo isn’t applying for a job.
>
> EDIT: Besides, that’s assuming there’s only ONE job opening, which sometimes isn’t the case.

its applying for my attention, and the fact of the matter is why should I settle for a fun game when I can play the most fun game

> Good post man, I completely agree. Halo needs to go back to its roots and do what it does best. Not imitate COD and put all this randomness into the game. Back to basics.

Completly agree with you there, just hope 343i goes back to the basic’s.

343 is doing their own thing. Its hard to find a game thats “orignal.” It hasn’t been that way in the FPS genre in a loooooong time. Both COD and halo arn’t orignal and haven’t ever been. 343 is taking elements and adding their own spin on it.

Besides your logic is flawed. COD is the most sucessful FPS and it has stolen from other games and added their spin to it. You want to know reality? No one cares about orignality. Its an argument made up by weak people who need to blame something instead of just dealing with what you got. Its about how good you can do something. For example cods zombies. The survival wave based aspect is hardly orignal let alone with zombies. But the way they pulled it off. The way they did their spin. THATS what made it popular.

In short your wrong. Games haven’t been orignal let alone in the past decade. Oh and halo 4 is amazing. You don’t have to like the new changes. But trying to say they are failing at what they do best is just wrong. They gave us a -Yoink!- good halo game.

> > > Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.
> >
> > Well, would you rather win the championship or get knocked out in the preliminaries, but hey at least you made the playoffs…
> >
> > no. its championship ring or bust
>
> I told you, I would rather be #1… but #3 is perfectly fine.
>
> “If you’re not first, you’re last” is a flawed way of thinking.

It’s not even at number 3. Check the Jan 7th live activity it’s number 4…

Do 99% of people have any stock or ties with the ranking of halo 4? NO
Can I go to any playlist and find a game with ease? YES

So Halos ranking on the game charts effects people how?

> > > > Why are people so obsessed with getting #1? Sure, it’d be awesome to be #1 again, but I’m perfectly happy with Halo 4 in #3.
> > >
> > > Well, would you rather win the championship or get knocked out in the preliminaries, but hey at least you made the playoffs…
> > >
> > > no. its championship ring or bust
> >
> > I told you, I would rather be #1… but #3 is perfectly fine.
> >
> > “If you’re not first, you’re last” is a flawed way of thinking.
>
> but if I wanted a job, and i’m 2nd best, I’d be in the same circumstance as the people 3rd-999999th

Your analogies don’t carry over…

Halo still has more players than 99% of other games being played, just because they’re not first doesn’t mean they didn’t make the cut.