Halo 3 VS Halo Reach

Games Other Halo
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Ok people are kind of forgetting the stats about halo 3 considering that everyone keeps on saying how much more great it was than halo reach but consider this
Matchmaking

  • No FF at ALL- No Living dead perminate playlist- No Campain AT ALL- No map voting AT ALL- No gametype voting AT ALL
    Campain
  • Actually both well campains while they last- Halo 3 has a longer campain- Halo Reach has MM matchmaking for campain
    FireFight
  • Halo 3 doesnt have one so reach obviouly wins this contest
    Forge
  • Both have ok forge world maps- Reach has rotational snap but halo 3 dosnt- Reach has Cordinates but Halo 3 dosnt- Reach has Fixed/Phased/Normal but Halo 3 only has normal
    Theater
  • Halo 3 theater can be seen by multable people in a party but reach you have to be by yourself

So disscuss

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Agreed. IMHO Halo 3 was just a HD Halo 2

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Halo 3’s matchmaking was better because of ranks and superior playlists.

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> Matchmaking
> - No FF at ALL

Firefight Matchmaking in Reach is a joke. “Hey, let’s play Firefight! Oh, but what’s this? No survival! No challenge! Fuel Rods only! Final Destination.”

> - No Living dead perminate playlist

Reach is better in this regard – especially since its own LD has improvements in the works, whereas Halo 3’s stagnated and only ever had the same (badly-Forged) maps.

> - No Campain AT ALL

Reach’s Campaign Matchmaking is filled almost entirely with randoms who immediately rage-quit from the lobby if they don’t get the map or difficulty they want. The population is also pitifully low. The playlist may as well not exist.

> - No map voting AT ALL
> - No gametype voting AT ALL

The voting system itself is better in Reach, yes.

> - Halo 3 has a longer campain

…Which has more replay value, (ironically) larger-overall battles, more and better vehicular combat, fewer cheap tricks abused by the enemy AI, friendly AI that don’t constantly try to murder you in the most idiotic ways possible, a better art style, and the levels are all actually relevant to the overarching plot. Unlike Reach.

> Forge

Forge was massively improved in Reach, yes. I cannot possibly imagine having to Forge in Halo 3 again.

> Theater- Halo 3 theater can be seen by multable people in a party but reach you have to be by yourself

Multi-user Theater in Halo 3 was laggy and unreliable. 60% chance you’d be dropped from the party once the Film started. Loading time was massive, and everyone got to sit and wait at a nice blackscreen during that time. But of course, single-user Theater in Reach is useless for actually showing anything off in-game, and ultimately is only good for screenshots and for capturing Films to be rendered later.

> So disscuss

You forgot to mention the new Custom Game engine, which allows gametypes to be patched and extended post-release without the need for a Title Update; and the improved content storage and sharing capabilities, which (though heavily flawed) are considerably better in Reach. That and Forge are some of the few advantages Reach has – but those advantages alone are absolutely massive.

IMO: Overall, in every significant aspect except for standard gameplay, Reach is superior. Halo 3’s standard (typical Slayer/Objective) gameplay, however, was far better than Reach’s.

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> > Matchmaking
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> Firefight Matchmaking in Reach is a joke. “Hey, let’s play Firefight! Oh, but what’s this? No survival! No challenge! Fuel Rods only! Final Destination.”
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> Reach is better in this regard – especially since its own LD has improvements in the works, whereas Halo 3’s stagnated and only ever had the same (badly-Forged) maps.
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> Reach’s Campaign Matchmaking is filled almost entirely with randoms who immediately rage-quit from the lobby if they don’t get the map or difficulty they want. The population is also pitifully low. The playlist may as well not exist.
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> The voting system itself is better in Reach, yes.
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> > - Halo 3 has a longer campain
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> …Which has more replay value, (ironically) larger-overall battles, more and better vehicular combat, fewer cheap tricks abused by the enemy AI, friendly AI that don’t constantly try to murder you in the most idiotic ways possible, a better art style, and the levels are all actually relevant to the overarching plot. Unlike Reach.
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> Forge was massively improved in Reach, yes. I cannot possibly imagine having to Forge in Halo 3 again.
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> > Theater- Halo 3 theater can be seen by multable people in a party but reach you have to be by yourself
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> Multi-user Theater in Halo 3 was laggy and unreliable. 60% chance you’d be dropped from the party once the Film started. Loading time was massive, and everyone got to sit and wait at a nice blackscreen during that time. But of course, single-user Theater in Reach is useless for actually showing anything off in-game, and ultimately is only good for screenshots and for capturing Films to be rendered later.
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> > So disscuss
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> You forgot to mention the new Custom Game engine, which allows gametypes to be patched and extended post-release without the need for a Title Update; and the improved content storage and sharing capabilities, which (though heavily flawed) are considerably better in Reach. That and Forge are some of the few advantages Reach has – but those advantages alone are absolutely massive.
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> IMO: Overall, in every significant aspect except for standard gameplay, Reach is superior. Halo 3’s standard (typical Slayer/Objective) gameplay, however, was far better than Reach’s.

I dont think your trying to say this but im not actually TRYING to attack halo 3 it was a good game its just that everyone on the fourms keeps on comparing halo 3 to reach and saying how much better it is and on what you actually wrote about things that are in reach but not in halo3 being crappy at least you get the option to play that if you want rather than having no option

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I think most issues when people compare halo reach to halo 3 is simply the matchmaking, the maps, and gameplay gimmicks. While there is some good maps in reach, i think overall they are lower than halo 3s and because of the AA’s abuse, they kill the flow of the map and destroy the “Halo” experience of gameplay. While there was some nice improvements in features from halo3, gameplay is quite debateable and the biggest issue between the two.

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> I dont think your trying to say this but im not actually TRYING to attack halo 3 it was a good game its just that everyone on the fourms keeps on comparing halo 3 to reach and saying how much better it is and on what you actually wrote about things that are in reach but not in halo3 being crappy at least you get the option to play that if you want rather than having no option

I understood what you were saying. You weren’t attacking either game; you were simply attempting an objective comparison between the two games. My response was an attempt at the same.

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IMO reach is superior to halo 3 in everything (matchmaking too) except the campaign, which is better in reach but somehow has got less replayability.

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Halo 3 is one of the best halo games… who needs stupid campaign matchmaking and all this extra crap. Reach screwed up true skill by adding credit system… the campaign was garbage in my opinion and short… Halo 3 had better maps with more landscape variety like snowy maps and sand maps and u get my point… Reach tried being like every other game with there class system. They gave us a sucky DMR that is broken half the time. Firefight is to easy in matchmaking now they took out classic firefight witch took skill… Now its all arcade and other bull firefight playlists. and list just keeps on going…I play Reach all the time but to me Halo 3 is way better. It has more of an arena style and everyone starts of equal with same weapons and no armor ability. Halo 3 kept it simple and kept it true Halo

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What is the point in trying to compete both of them?

You will get people who say Combat Evolved was the best.

Those who say Halo 2 was the best.

Those who say Halo 3 is the best.

Those who say Halo Wars is the best.

Those who say Halo 3: ODST is the best.

Finally those who say Halo: Reach is the best.

It all comes down to opinion at the end of the day. It doesn’t matter have vast the opinion is shared among others, an opinion is an opinion.

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It seems like you are basing your opinion on the better game…by judging by the how much content the game has? Even if on game has all the content in the world, but the gameplay sucks all content in the world wouldn’t matter at all.

I still call Halo 3 on this one it is infinitely better than Reach, yes some things were improved upon however many things got a down grade as well(gameplay).

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I personally like reaches Gameplay better

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I thank out of all halo games reach is the best until halo 4 comes out

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> IMO reach is superior to halo 3 in everything (matchmaking too) except the campaign, which is better in reach but somehow has got less replayability.

I roll my eyes at your post. IMO Reach is no where near as superior as Halo 3.

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> > IMO reach is superior to halo 3 in everything (matchmaking too) except the campaign, which is better in reach but somehow has got less replayability.
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> I roll my eyes at your post. IMO Reach is no where near as superior as Halo 3.

Whats IMO reach

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REACH IS SUPERIOR IN SOME WAZE IS IT NOT?

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I think Campaign wise 3 was better than Reach. Sure it had the horrendous Cortana level but aside from that I loved some of the HUGE battles it had, which Reach lacked.

As far as the Multi goes, 3 had better maps. Even the worst of 3s maps are still better than most of default Reach maps. But Reach’s net code is better (aside from the black screens).

So its a mixed bag. If 4 takes best of both it could be phenomenal.

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what infection updates are under works??? is there going to be a future update in infection?

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I HOPE THEY DO MAKE AN UPDATE TO INFECTION ALSO IT LAGS ALOT

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> > > IMO reach is superior to halo 3 in everything (matchmaking too) except the campaign, which is better in reach but somehow has got less replayability.
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> > I roll my eyes at your post. IMO Reach is no where near as superior as Halo 3.
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> Whats IMO reach

“In my opinion, Reach …”