For those of you that are disillusioned with Halo 4 and didnt like Reach that much either because of AAs the Halo 3 population has hit 45,000 players over the weekend. It seems players are coming back in droves now that it has been released free to the public and MM is getting a lot more players. We found game after game with pretty much zero waiting time, played on some classic maps i have missed for ages and had heaps of fun. 343 should take notice of this and learn from it.
So if your sick of H4, Reach and COD and just cant stomach another strip show on GTA V come join us all for some classic Halo.
The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
45,000 players is huge? This is a sign of “droves”? Especially in response to a free game?
I’m sorry, but honestly that’s nothing. Last time I checked, Team Fortress 2 had 300,000 players at any time. Not only is that game free but it is just as old as Halo 3.
League of Legends has always been free. That has like, 10 million players at any one time.
I know some people like to think optimistically about how if they just re-released Halo 2/3 again then the Xbox LIVE charts will be irrelevent as everyone will be playing Halo, but this only proves that people are either sick of Halo, or sick of the community.
Also the population “boost” hasn’t helped me as I still can’t get into a game.
> 45,000 players is huge? This is a sign of “droves”? Especially in response to a free game?
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> I’m sorry, but honestly that’s nothing. Last time I checked, Team Fortress 2 had 300,000 players at any time. Not only is that game free but it is just as old as Halo 3.
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> League of Legends has always been free. That has like, 10 million players at any one time.
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> I know some people like to think optimistically about how if they just re-released Halo 2/3 again then the Xbox LIVE charts will be irrelevent as everyone will be playing Halo, but this only proves that people are either sick of Halo, or sick of the community.
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> Also the population “boost” hasn’t helped me as I still can’t get into a game.
Team Fortress 2 peaks around 40k-50k on it’s daily peak according to some of my TF2 friends. And I know that’s not a credible source, but from looking at it’s community page I guess that’s about right http://steamcommunity.com/app/440
And I’m not responding as a partisan on this post, your post just jumped out on me. As for League, I have no idea on their numbers myself.
Not all 40 million Xbox LIVE members are gold, so do not mislead others with that kind of info. Also, Team Fortress is a PC game so it will always have more players, as PC gamers are a lot more than those how own a 360 at the moment and they don’t have GTA V.
Isn’t that counter for the number of unique users in a 24 hour period?
I’d love to see the actual numbers in different playlists in real-time like Halo 4’s counter. It would be interesting to see which one is actually more popular.
> Not all 40 million Xbox LIVE members are gold, so do not mislead others with that kind of info. Also, Team Fortress is a PC game so it will always have more players, as PC gamers are a lot more than those how own a 360 at the moment and they don’t have GTA V.
70 million Xboxes have been sold. About half of those, between 35-40 million have active XBL gold memberships. No misleading at all, it’s really that sad for Halo.
> The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
Omg stay on the Halo 4 forums please. If you hate H3 so much why the hell are you here?
ot- yeah its a huge increase and it’s a lot of fun! Wait times are down, no matter what the negative nancies say. And the combat is so fluid, simple, and rewarding!
> The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
Not all regions have Halo 3. I have to change my region because of that. Theres tons of games out there and people are playing it. Not everyone have 5.72 GB on their xbox’s. Most of the people download GTA V to play it.
> Not all 40 million Xbox LIVE members are gold, so do not mislead others with that kind of info. Also, Team Fortress is a PC game so it will always have more players, as PC gamers are a lot more than those how own a 360 at the moment and they don’t have GTA V.
No, look at the pc sales. There are more people playing on Xbox then PC. Go to black 2 population on PC and theirs about 2,000 players. And plus we have GTA V. A lot of people are playing that.
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Why was my post moved from General discussion to be buried in the Halo 3 forum that noone ever reads. I see plenty of Halo 4 specific posts in gereral discussion that dont get moved to the Halo 4 forum. Oh thats right i forgot the conspiracy of the mods and 343 on thse forums to quash and hide any discussion that proves other people are playing the old halo games because they dont like Halo 4.
Well this is the last straw for me. Its been fun -Yoinks!-. I couldnt be bothered with a community and developer that wont own up to the fact they totally stuffed things up and alienated over 2/3 of their player base and work so damn hard at covering things up and creating spin. If you spent as much time defending your really poor effort with Halo 4 on these forums as you should have with the game development we would not be having all these issue. Epic Fail 343.
Well to be fair, this is a Halo 3 related post so it’s now in the correct place.
> The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
What were you expecting? The game is six years old. I’m amazed that 35,000 people decided to download and play it over the weekend.
Once again, the game is six years old and now has a larger population than many games released in 2012-2013.
And doing better then H4.
> > The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
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> Omg stay on the Halo 4 forums please. If you hate H3 so much why the hell are you here?
> ot- yeah its a huge increase and it’s a lot of fun! Wait times are down, no matter what the negative nancies say. And the combat is so fluid, simple, and rewarding!
I’ll post where I want, thanks. Also I don’t think I ever wrote that I hate Halo 3. If you look at my posts you’ll see that I’m posting that Halo is in such a bad situation considering Halo 4’s situation and that only 45,000 people are playing Halo 3 despite being released for free to MILLIONS OF GAMERS.
> The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
For starters, that number isn’t unique players over 24 hours. It only updates every 24 hours due to server lag, but that’s the count of players who are online at the particular moment it refreshes.
This is evident because while Halo 3 was running, Bungie.net kept track of both unique players online in 24 hours, and unique players online at that exact time, and on Bungie’s original servers when the number updated every hour, it was always exactly the same as the “current players” number, not the 24 hours number.
Which is also backed up by the fact that that number absolutely never displayed the 1.4 million that was a usual number every 24 hours for about 2 years. It usually peaked at 350,000. Which makes a lot of sense considering when MW2 finally knocked it off it’s pedestal 2 years later, MW2’s population had a weekend spike of 400,000.
Now compared to Halo Reach which has an average player count of 9,000 players at any given time, and Halo 4 which up until Halo 3 went free only had 25,000, I’d happily say that a constant 45,000 will hands down land Halo 3 in the top 6 on Major Nelson’s Xbox Live activity list, which Halo 4 has already been below number 10 on for the last few months.
So, I give Halo 3 a go the other night after saying goodbye to the game over four years ago. I couldn’t believe it, there was over twenty five thousand users playing the game.
Let’s see, I’ll just put in my Halo 4 disc and check the population. Oh no, there’s only approximately four thousand people playing the game.
Oh no. What shall 343 Industries do?
> > The fact that the game has been released to over 40 million Xbox live gold members and it only reached 45,000 unique users in 24 hours is not something to be happy about.
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> For starters, that number isn’t unique players over 24 hours. It only updates every 24 hours due to server lag, but that’s the count of players who are online at the particular moment it refreshes.
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> This is evident because while Halo 3 was running, Bungie.net kept track of both unique players online in 24 hours, and unique players online at that exact time, and on Bungie’s original servers when the number updated every hour, it was always exactly the same as the “current players” number, not the 24 hours number.
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> Which is also backed up by the fact that that number absolutely never displayed the 1.4 million that was a usual number every 24 hours for about 2 years. It usually peaked at 350,000. Which makes a lot of sense considering when MW2 finally knocked it off it’s pedestal 2 years later, MW2’s population had a weekend spike of 400,000.
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> Now compared to Halo Reach which has an average player count of 9,000 players at any given time, and Halo 4 which up until Halo 3 went free only had 25,000, I’d happily say that a constant 45,000 will hands down land Halo 3 in the top 6 on Major Nelson’s Xbox Live activity list, which Halo 4 has already been below number 10 on for the last few months.
Top 6? Alright I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
> So, I give Halo 3 a go the other night after saying goodbye to the game over four years ago. I couldn’t believe it, there was over twenty five thousand users playing the game.
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> Let’s see, I’ll just put in my Halo 4 disc and check the population. Oh no, there’s only approximately four thousand people playing the game.
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> Oh no. What shall 343 Industries do?
What shall 343i do?
Work on Halo 5 and ignore that a free game released to millions of people got some people playing it. It’s not exactly relevant data. They could release Halo ODST for free and it would probably have the same online population as Halo 3. If Halo 3 was truly the better game, why didn’t people who leave Halo 4, go right back to playing Halo: Reach or Halo 3? Why didn’t the population of Halo 4 lower and Halo 3 rise in correlation? Halo 3 could be found for $20 yet gamers spent $60 on newer titles instead.
The funny thing about population is that this community extrapolates that the bigger population number = better game. That’s not necessarily true and in no way is able to be quantified and calculated that way unless you took a poll of every, single, player playing and asked them what they liked and disliked.
This community lovely takes the population numbers and runs with it claiming that it supports their theory that older Halo multiplayer is best multiplayer. If that was the case then we should have seen Halo 4 players go back to Halo 3. But they just left the series completely.
Halo is in a sad state and unfortunately Microsoft and 343i are more concerned with sales over population. So until Halo 5 does horribly, horribly bad, there isn’t much hope.
> What shall 343i do?
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> Work on Halo 5 and ignore that a free game released to millions of people got some people playing it. It’s not exactly relevant data. They could release Halo ODST for free and it would probably have the same online population as Halo 3. If Halo 3 was truly the better game, why didn’t people who leave Halo 4, go right back to playing Halo: Reach or Halo 3? Why didn’t the population of Halo 4 lower and Halo 3 rise in correlation? Halo 3 could be found for $20 yet gamers spent $60 on newer titles instead.
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> The funny thing about population is that <mark>this community extrapolates that the bigger population number = better game. That’s not necessarily true and in no way is able to be quantified and calculated that way unless you took a poll of every, single, player playing</mark> and asked them what they liked and disliked.
By the same logic, it’s not necessarily untrue either. I left Halo 4 and did not go back to Halo 3. Why? Because even though I preferred Halo 3’s gameplay, the game was 5 1/2 years old when I left Halo 4 and the population base remaining was not high enough to ensure that I would get quality matches. Now that some players have come back, the 45,000 population is healthier than even Halo 4, and enough to warrant a return to it.
For multiplayer in a Halo game, Halo 4’s daily average of 20K is a downright embarrassment.
> This community lovely takes the population numbers and runs with it claiming that it supports their theory that older Halo multiplayer is best multiplayer. If that was the case then we should have seen Halo 4 players go back to Halo 3. <mark>But they just left the series completely.</mark>
Doesn’t that speak for itself?
Once again, old game, low population. If the players who left and went back to Halo 3, the population would likely thrive. But here’s the problem: most people are not trailblazers; they wait for others to take the first step. If there was no indication of a population return to Halo 3, the average person is not going to bother coming back. See above, as this is the path I went down.
Who would start a coordinated movement to repopulate the game? It needs to be a massive number all at the same time. If people just trickle in on their own accord, the population barely moves, people get discouraged, and leave again. The hardcore ones will stick around no matter the population, but these are not your typical players.
> Halo is in a sad state and unfortunately Microsoft and 343i are more concerned with sales over population. So until Halo 5 does horribly, horribly bad, there isn’t much hope.
Yes, it is in a sad state. But instead of being cynical, I try to be optimistic and positive about its future. The logical thing to do is to build off of what worked. If 343i does just that, you might be surprised. Of course, if it tanks, I will be surprised as well, but then we would be right back in the same position we are in now, a couple years later.
I agree with you.