Halo 1/2/3 Formula > Halo reach/Halo 4 Formula!

Halo 4 is the “make it or break it” game, that is the deciding factor in whether 343i will be successful, or if they go under. All it needs to do is be a New game with that old familiar feel. You may ask yourself…

But, How does one go about making a New halo game with the Original Halo’esqe formula intact?

Easy. It just needs three key ingredients in its Formula.

The Golden Triangle.

  • Guns
  • Grenades
  • Melee

The Perfect Square of Perfection.

  • Re-Chargeable Shielded Health
  • Fast Walking Speed
  • High Jump height
  • Floaty Physics

And last but not least!..

The Ball Of Balance

-Equal in game settings

-Equal starting weapons

-Map Balance/Control

-And no “One weapon/Armor Ability/Equipment beats all”.

And a Story/game that takes place in a futuristic outer space military war, Genetically modified Super-Solider and Alien filled, large, vast, mysterious Atmosphere, is the ice on the cake, or the Cherry on the Sunday.

As long as it retains all of these key elements they can change WHATEVER else they want.

They could scrap Armor abilities, certain weapons, specific characters, hell even ranking could be scraped i don’t care, AS LONG AS IT HAS THE ORIGINAL FORMULA.

They could add dragons, and nyan cats, and pink fluffy purple baby rabbits that spit rainbows, and Master chief sings about sharing and caring every 5 seconds and i still wouldn’t care, AS LONG AS IT HAS THE ORIGINAL FORMULA.

Now please excuse me. I’m going to go get a midnight snack because taking about cake, and cherry’s has got me all hungry…

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<mark>EDIT:</mark> Halo NEEDS change. Now more than ever. It needs to adapt to the ever elvolving Economy/Community/Etc. and the always changing gaming industry. It NEEDS addition’s that expand it’s greatness Not Detract. It needs new things But not at the price of another. They shouldn’t add Sprint for example but then turn right around and remove the ability to jump. What they should do is leave what works and add on to it. For better or worse sometimes. Cough Armor Lock Cough. So No. I- No, WE are not afraid of change. We just prefer it not to if it comes to the price of our respect…

Halo 4 Seems to be trying to improve upon Halo Reach’s Formula. Which is fine because there’s no doubt reach is a remarkably fun and entertaining game, and at it’s heart it’s close to the first three games formula, but it broke the Gold Triangle (which has been in EVERY game even ODST since 2001), by adding Armor ability’s to it. They also popped the ball of balance by adding load-outs which in turn messed with EQUAL starting weapons. The Armor ability’s also broke Map Balance and Control by having sprint let players who chose it as a ability, gain a head start to the power weapons, Jet pack allowed players to get high-ground whenever they wanted, ruining the flow of game-play, and so on and so forth… There are/was a MILLION different ways they could have implemented armor ability’s and still make game-play New. According to the way Reach turned out… they picked the wrong one.

Refer to this thread to get an understanding of the Direction Halo 4 Needs to follow.AND GUYS/GALS I’M NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THE WHOLE “REMOVE THE RANKING” THING! I WAS EXAGGERATING TO HELP BETTER GET MY POINT ACROSS! BUT JUST REMEMBER HALO PC DOESN’T HAVE ONLINE RANKING AND NEITHER DID/DOES HALO CE OVER XBC, AND THOSE GAMES ARE STILL GREAT! RIGHT?

Hope that made sense lol :slight_smile:

Your Ball of Balance caught my eye because it’s what I’ve never wanted to change. Everyone starts off the same and weapons and power ups are found on the map.

Sure sounds like you want a Halo 3 clone.

> Sure sounds like you want a Halo 3 clone.

Er, doesn’t a sequel improve on aspects of the previous game?

> Sure sounds like you want <mark>something really good</mark>.

Fixed it for you and floaty physics are a yes please

Don’t remove the ranks and Im in.

> Your Ball of Balance caught my eye because it’s what I’ve never wanted to change. Everyone starts off the same and weapons and power ups are found on the map.

Agreed. One thing i’ll never forget about my first time in Reach was, after playing halo 3 for so many years, and then switching to the Reach Beta, i immediately noticed weapon control and more importantly map control was gone. People jet-packing up to Higher ground as soon as the game began, sprinting to the rocket launcher before anyone else had a chance. Imagine how reach would of turned out if EVERYONE spawned with a AR and DMR and armor ability’s were pickups, and one time uses, and need to be re-picked up after each complete use. Then at least some balance would of been portrayed.

> Sure sounds like you want a Halo 3 clone.

Not exactly. All of those concepts are higher-tier mechanics, therefore there is lots of room for lower-tier mechanics as long as they don’t hinder these three major concepts.

OP, you hit spot on with what Halo needs. It may evolve, it should evolve, but all evolution should maintain and maybe even reinforce these concepts presented in the OP. I agree with you all the way to the nyan cats.

The 3 things Halo 4 needs to succeed?

  1. A good, replayable campaign
  2. Good MM/custom games
  3. Good theatre/forge

That about sums it up

People say they want the Core halo experience. How about no ranking system then? It would get rid of all the idiotic MLG “BRIGN THIS RANK SYSTEM BACK, or NO AA’s, or ANYTHING NEWWWWAAH” Seriously i hate those -Yoink-. I have beaten MLG players before, was offered a spot on another account, but denied it. They freaking annoy me jsut as much as the cults, i mean clans in any game.

I think the OP understands Halo better than 343 does.

> I think the OP understands Halo better than 343 does.

Thats an outright fabrication

People enjoy the formula. Different flavors don’t matter as long as you stick to the original formula. That’s what Reach did wrong; it changed the formula.

Change the Golden Triangle to Pentagon:

Guns, Grenades, Melee, Vehicles, Powerups/AAs/Equipment

I Agree. Halo 4 needs to reshape the Series/Franchise but stick to its guns (no pun intended) and remain similar to its Predecessor’s.

> Sure sounds like you want a Halo 3 clone.

And Exactly How Is That A Bad Thing?

> > Sure sounds like you want a Halo 3 clone.
>
> Er, doesn’t a sequel improve on aspects of the previous game?

Yes, certain aspects. It shouldn’t be a carbon copy of it’s predecessor.

> Halo 4 is the “make it or break it” game, that is the deciding factor in whether 343i will be successful, or if they go under. All it needs to do is be a New game with that old familiar feel. You may ask yourself…
>
>
> But, How does one go about making a New halo game with the Original Halo’esqe formula intact?
>
>
> Easy. It just needs three key ingredients in its Formula.
>
>
> The Golden Triangle.
>
> - Guns
> - Grenades
> - Melee
>
> The Perfect Square of Perfection.
>
> - Re-Chargeable Shielded Health
> - Fast Walking Speed
> - High Jump height
> - Floaty Physics
>
>
> And last but not least!..
>
>
> The Ball Of Balance
>
> -Equal in game settings
>
> -Equal starting weapons
>
> -Map Balance/Control
>
> -And no “<mark>One weapon</mark>/Armor Ability/Equipment <mark>beats all</mark>”.
>
>
> And Slightly Cartoony graphics in a futuristic outer space military war, Genetically modified Super-Solider and Alien filled, large, vast, mysterious Atmosphere is the ice on the cake or the Cherry on the Sunday.
>
> As long as it retains all of these key elements they can change WHATEVER else they want.
>
> They could scrap Armor abilities, certain weapons, specific characters, hell even ranking could be scraped i don’t care, AS LONG AS IT HAS THE ORIGINAL FORMULA.
>
> They could add dragons, and nyan cats, and pink fluffy purple baby rabbits that spit rainbows, and Master chief sings about sharing and caring every 5 seconds and i still wouldn’t care, AS LONG AS IT HAS THE ORIGINAL FORMULA.
>
> Now please excuse me. I’m going to go get a midnight snack because taking about, Formulas, and cake, and cherry’s and sundays has got me all hungry…

But that’s what Halo is about, customizable loadouts will probably let you get your AR BR SMG, etc. But you have to use them to fight for the best, like sniper or rockets or something.

> Change the Golden Triangle to Pentagon:
>
> Guns, Grenades, Melee, Vehicles, Powerups

Fixed.

Halo’s pretty much been the same since Halo 2.

I want something new. Something that catches me off guard.