Throughout the past 13 years of Halo, we’ve endured two UNSC alternatives to the Covenant Carbine. If you had to pick ONE of the two UNSC mid-rangers, which would it be?
M7S Caseless Sub Machine Gun
Introduced in Halo 3: ODST, the M7S is a fully automatic UNSC mid-ranged weapon equipped with a 24 round magazine, a suppressor, and a smart-linked scope. While the M7S suffers from potentially inhibiting recoil, the use of short controlled bursts not only heavily decreases if not eliminates the recoil, but also adds a subtle skill-gap.
BR85 Battle Rifle
(NOTE: the listed weapon refers to the BR as a whole, not just its Halo 4 incarnation.)
Introduced in Halo 2, the Battle Rifle is a mid-ranged UNSC rifle that inflicts fire in bursts of three and is equipped with a 36-round magazine and a smart-linked scope. Despite holding incredible stopping power, the Battle Rifle is afflicted with a high amount of spread that requires the user to use the weapon in a way similar to a paintbrush.
Choose one of the two weapons, and we might just see them in Halo 5. And if you aren’t willing to pick one or the other, don’t vote!
I think well see both the smg and br return, but if I had to choose one… id go for the br.
But seriously… bring back dual wielding with smgs, 343.
Both but If I had to chose, BR all the way.
-Bradley
Were Halo Reach and Halo 4 really so bad that you’ve had to deny any existence of the DMR?
> Choose one of the two weapons, and we might just see them in Halo 5. And if you aren’t willing to pick one or the other, don’t vote!
Lets be honest here, we all know we’re going to see the BR in Halo 5.
> Were Halo Reach and Halo 4 really so bad that you’ve had to deny any existence of the DMR?
The DMR is a long range rifle.
The poll pertains to mid range weapons, therefore, the DMR will not be included.
Why not both?
If I had to choose, it’d have to be the BR though. Still, the silenced SMG is an awesome weapon, which I feel should bed used a tad bit more.
> The DMR is a long range rifle.
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> The poll pertains to mid range weapons, therefore, the DMR will not be included.
Really? I’ve always considered it to be a medium range weapon as-well.
The BR can get out for the crimes it has commited against the wep sandbox!
> > The DMR is a long range rifle.
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> > The poll pertains to mid range weapons, therefore, the DMR will not be included.
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> Really? I’ve always considered it to be a medium range weapon as-well.
It’s specialized role is a long-ranged rifle.
Anyhow, let’s avoid further derailment.
> The BR can get out for the crimes it has commited against the wep sandbox!
And say if the situation was reversed and the Carbine was OP? Would you make the same argument?
> > The BR can get out for the crimes it has commited against the wep sandbox!
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> And say if the situation was reversed and the Carbine was OP? Would you make the same argument?
If it out-classed everything like the BR does (excluding H4) yes, yes I would.
Btw, I am not saying the BR is OP…I am saying all the other weps were pushed out of the way for this one gun.
> > The BR can get out for the crimes it has commited against the wep sandbox!
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> And say if the situation was reversed and the Carbine was OP? Would you make the same argument?
I might have.
But luckily, however, neither the BR nor the Carbine are anywhere close to being overpowered.
The ODST SMG was definitely a badass weapon, but I’d prefer the BR if there could only be one.
I’ll take the BR any day.
Easy choice, BR curb stomps this SMG.
I wouldn’t put the SMG anywhere near the BR in a mid-range comparison.
1 SMG or 2, it doesn’t matter, it’s only viable as a CQC weapon IMHO. It doesn’t even leave the starting blocks in a mid-range competition.
> I wouldn’t put the SMG anywhere near the BR in a mid-range comparison.
You do know what SMG I’m referring to, right?
If the OP didn’t make it clear enough, I’m referring to the weapon seen in ODST. The SMG in ODST and the SMG in Halo 2/3 are two very, very, different weapons.
The M7S SMG is an automatic mid-ranged weapon. The default M7 is a dual-wieldable and strictly close-ranged bullet hose.
> 1 SMG or 2, it doesn’t matter, it’s only viable as a CQC weapon IMHO. It doesn’t even leave the starting blocks in a mid-range competition.
If you’re taking about the regular M7, absolutely.
However, in regards to the M7S, this is simply not the case.
Don’t get me wrong. I love the ODST SMG and if you were to put me in a room full of Flood I’d choose it over the BR.
But if we’re talking about what I want the sand box to look like in Halo 5 then I have to choose the BR to be the UNSC’s medium range rifle while I want the standard SMG to be the UNSC’s close range secondary and replacement to the Bolt Shot.
Not sure if you can consider the SSMG an alternative to the Carbine or to the BR as well, since the rifles have been clearly better overall.
To nitpick, replacing a rifle with a SMG would feel a bit strange to me as well.
I would pick the BR
Nonetheless I would like to see a proper automatic rifle with a scope and that is similar to the SSMG.
I generally think (some) automatics should take a look at how the SSMG is designed. (small reticule, accurate, recoil)
