Simple question: we all know they killed the buzz, the rumors, they said H3 Anniversary was not happening; so is it not happening? or are they trying to pull a massive surprise out of thin air in an attempt have the old school fans cheering and screaming 343i’s approval? Could they be trying to pull a blindside release in September to take the internet by storm?
This leaves me with other questions. I mean, I could take their word for it and take the lack of H3A news at E3 as a sign, but it just doesn’t sit right with me. H3A would be a massive payday…why pass it up? The only real possible arguments I’ve heard have been: 1, Halo 3’s graphics aren’t that out of date (which is a weak argument), and 2, 343 is trying to focus only on H5 post-launch content and H6. Better argument but still weak.
While it wasn’t my favorite, H3 was one of my favorites, and for many fans it was the pinnacle, the swan song, the height of the trilogy. To the point were it is almost the series’ measuring stick. “But was it as good as Halo 3?” as you so often hear.
I can’t wrap my mind around why they wouldn’t do it. It’d be crowd-pleasing, if done correctly it could gain favor and help to let the memory of the poor MCC launch fade, it would bring back old players like me who haven’t spent money on Halo in quite some time, and it would nicely wrap up the Anniversary Trilogy, which now that I say it, could probably be bundled and sold for even MORE money, not to mention legendary editions and blah blah blah.
Does 343i just not want to call back any attention to older games that many consider better than the newer ones anymore? Am I missing something here?
Anyone reading, give me your thoughts. This isn’t really a debate about which Halo games are better, it’s more of a business debate. Because Halo saved the Xbox and arguably made it what it is today, you would think that the XBox One X would be flag-shipping the holy hell out of a Halo 3 Anniversary Edition Bundle that had graphics on par with Halo 5, came with all the DLC, and for you real hardcore fans came with a mini-statue or something. Low price of 799.99 or something.
To sum it up, because I got carried away, answer me this: Why NOT do Halo 3 Anniversary this year?
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Because 343i is -Yoinking!- retarded, and doesn’t know how to listen to a fanbase. -Yoink- 343.
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I mean I pretty much agree with you but there’s one flaw with that answer: It’d be a huge money maker whether they listened to the fanbase or not. Surely theyve considered it and probably had some animators do some preliminary work on it. I think what it really is, is that these anniversary games keep generating more buzz and approval than their current projects and they don’t like that.
Guess they are just dumb. I mean there is literally no good reason to not to a Halo 3 Anniversary. None.
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> Simple question: we all know they killed the buzz, the rumors, they said H3 Anniversary was not happening; so is it not happening? or are they trying to pull a massive surprise out of thin air in an attempt have the old school fans cheering and screaming 343i’s approval? Could they be trying to pull a blindside release in September to take the internet by storm?
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> This leaves me with other questions. I mean, I could take their word for it and take the lack of H3A news at E3 as a sign, but it just doesn’t sit right with me. H3A would be a massive payday…why pass it up? The only real possible arguments I’ve heard have been: 1, Halo 3’s graphics aren’t that out of date (which is a weak argument), and 2, 343 is trying to focus only on H5 post-launch content and H6. Better argument but still weak.
> While it wasn’t my favorite, H3 was one of my favorites, and for many fans it was the pinnacle, the swan song, the height of the trilogy. To the point were it is almost the series’ measuring stick. “But was it as good as Halo 3?” as you so often hear.
> I can’t wrap my mind around why they wouldn’t do it. It’d be crowd-pleasing, if done correctly it could gain favor and help to let the memory of the poor MCC launch fade, it would bring back old players like me who haven’t spent money on Halo in quite some time, and it would nicely wrap up the Anniversary Trilogy, which now that I say it, could probably be bundled and sold for even MORE money, not to mention legendary editions and blah blah blah.
> Does 343i just not want to call back any attention to older games that many consider better than the newer ones anymore? Am I missing something here?
> Anyone reading, give me your thoughts. This isn’t really a debate about which Halo games are better, it’s more of a business debate. Because Halo saved the Xbox and arguably made it what it is today, you would think that the XBox One X would be flag-shipping the holy hell out of a Halo 3 Anniversary Edition Bundle that had graphics on par with Halo 5, came with all the DLC, and for you real hardcore fans came with a mini-statue or something. Low price of 799.99 or something.
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> To sum it up, because I got carried away, answer me this: Why NOT do Halo 3 Anniversary this year?
Until such time that they announce it, we should assume it is not happening. Unlike last time, when Frank was the only one saying Halo 2A isn’t happening, virtually everyone from 343i to the mods on here are saying it isn’t happening. And they are repeatedly doing it. This leads me to believe it actually isn’t happening.
And to be fair, I’m glad it isn’t. I haven’t liked any of the remastered games and believe they are a waste of time. Time that could be spent making an original game. Time spent making Halo 6 and repair the damage done by Halo 5. We don’t need a Halo 3 Anniversary, especially since it still looks good. After all this time denying it, I will completely lose respect for 343i if they cave and make a Halo 3A just to make fans feel good. They said the sales to MCC was too low to warrent a remaster. Besides, when do they draw the line? Should Halo 4 get one? In 2021, should Halo get an Anniversary Anniversary? It should just end with Halo 2, and even that was unnecessary.
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> > Simple question: we all know they killed the buzz, the rumors, they said H3 Anniversary was not happening; so is it not happening? or are they trying to pull a massive surprise out of thin air in an attempt have the old school fans cheering and screaming 343i’s approval? Could they be trying to pull a blindside release in September to take the internet by storm?
> >
> > This leaves me with other questions. I mean, I could take their word for it and take the lack of H3A news at E3 as a sign, but it just doesn’t sit right with me. H3A would be a massive payday…why pass it up? The only real possible arguments I’ve heard have been: 1, Halo 3’s graphics aren’t that out of date (which is a weak argument), and 2, 343 is trying to focus only on H5 post-launch content and H6. Better argument but still weak.
> > While it wasn’t my favorite, H3 was one of my favorites, and for many fans it was the pinnacle, the swan song, the height of the trilogy. To the point were it is almost the series’ measuring stick. “But was it as good as Halo 3?” as you so often hear.
> > I can’t wrap my mind around why they wouldn’t do it. It’d be crowd-pleasing, if done correctly it could gain favor and help to let the memory of the poor MCC launch fade, it would bring back old players like me who haven’t spent money on Halo in quite some time, and it would nicely wrap up the Anniversary Trilogy, which now that I say it, could probably be bundled and sold for even MORE money, not to mention legendary editions and blah blah blah.
> > Does 343i just not want to call back any attention to older games that many consider better than the newer ones anymore? Am I missing something here?
> > Anyone reading, give me your thoughts. This isn’t really a debate about which Halo games are better, it’s more of a business debate. Because Halo saved the Xbox and arguably made it what it is today, you would think that the XBox One X would be flag-shipping the holy hell out of a Halo 3 Anniversary Edition Bundle that had graphics on par with Halo 5, came with all the DLC, and for you real hardcore fans came with a mini-statue or something. Low price of 799.99 or something.
> >
> > To sum it up, because I got carried away, answer me this: Why NOT do Halo 3 Anniversary this year?
>
> Until such time that they announce it, we should assume it is not happening. Unlike last time, when Frank was the only one saying Halo 2A isn’t happening, virtually everyone from 343i to the mods on here are saying it isn’t happening. And they are repeatedly doing it. This leads me to believe it actually isn’t happening.
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> And to be fair, I’m glad it isn’t. I haven’t liked any of the remastered games and believe they are a waste of time. Time that could be spent making an original game. Time spent making Halo 6 and repair the damage done by Halo 5. We don’t need a Halo 3 Anniversary, especially since it still looks good. After all this time denying it, I will completely lose respect for 343i if they cave and make a Halo 3A just to make fans feel good. They said the sales to MCC was too low to warrent a remaster. Besides, when do they draw the line? Should Halo 4 get one? In 2021, should Halo get an Anniversary Anniversary? It should just end with Halo 2, and even that was unnecessary.
Ok, but think of the many, many people like myself who have LOVED the remasters and logged plenty of hours on them. They’ve been fantastic. I’ve also just so happened to pretty much hate or be indifferent to Halo 4 and 5. There’s a serious market for it, so why not do it? “The game still looks good.” Please. Its 2007 graphics. Have you even looked at that lately or revisited that? It looks fine, but it is certainly nowhere near the standard for today. They already did 1 and 2, they might as well cap it off at 3. The reason those do so well is they appeal largely to those who liked the older games better. I’d never want or even consider a halo 4 remaster. The prospect of bringing Halo 3 multiplayer back and looking better than ever excites me far more than a focused, well-developed developed Halo 6. The reason? because so far 343i has given me zero reason to give a -Yoink- about anything that’s going on past halo 3. It’s sucked.
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> This post has been edited by a moderator. Please do not post comments that are discriminatory in nature.*Original post. Click at your own discretion. Because 343i is -Yoinking!- retarded, and doesn’t know how to listen to a fanbase. -Yoink- 343.
Despite the vulgarity of this comment, I do agree with dovakinntaco101. Whole-heartedly.
I’d love to think it’s still happening, but it’s up in the air now. If they do end up releasing it, we’ll have to hear something of its potential existence within the next month, no more no less.
But hey, if Metroid Prime 4, Beyond Good & Evil 2, and Shenmue III can all happen, why not Halo 3: Anniversary?
If it ever does get announced, I sure hope it’s from a different company other than 343i. They practically butchered the series into oblivion, and they’d more than likely never release patches or updates after its release.
A toast to H3A not happening under 343i’s watch. Here, here.
The issue here is that 343 have dug themselves into a hole that is quite difficult to get out of. A large portion of the community does not view 343 as a competent developer. Every single title under them has flopped in one way or another. H4 loadouts mixed art styles that did not sit well with the community, inability to play as elites and a no Firefight/Invasion. The MCC a bugged filled mess and the multiplayer of these games are not of the same quality of their originals. H2 Anniversary has loadouts instead of equal starts. H5, well im not even going to get into it because I will need an entire new post to cover everything wrong with that game.
The point is we don’t trust 343 and have excellent reasoning not to. On 343’s view on the situation the past two anniversary additions have not been a huge profit return for them. Mainly because combat evolve did not have H1 multiplayer instead it was an expansion of reach which brought in DLC to split reach’s community. H2 was bundled in with the MCC which was built for a failing console at the time. In my honest opinion 343 have all of the game modes and feedback that Bungle left behind. For the most part Bungie went through the trail and errors and all 343 needs to do is continue that. However 343 is so hellbent on making Halo their own game that they are neglecting the pre-existing fans.
Guys this is for 343 industries please try to send this text to them from me or something i don’t just try your best 
Dear 343 industries
The people been asking, WE WANT HALO 3 ANNIVERSARY!!! when it showed nothing about it at E3, people started to rage, yes were glad that the flood came back ON halo wars 2, that means nothing about halo wars 2 we all know its part of the campaign and i heard that you said its been ten years since we haven’t seen the flood i know that but its ten year anniversary of halo 3A, we wanted halo 3A, i love the blur graphics on halo 2A it feels like a movie that is from the theaters, so here’s my idea for halo 3A design and gameplay, what they should do is halo 5 design in multiplayer BUT better, put the classic weapons that uses scopes like the br, sniper rifle, beam rifle, rocket launcher, spartan laser, and the carbine, also bring back the flame thrower, also the armor abilities bring them back as well. use the weapons that don’t have scopes do like halo 5’s smart link when u aim it will be better, the customizable armor needs to be there but not just the head and body, i really want new and old full sets of helmets, shoulders, arms, chest, legs, visors, also the katana sword, playable elites with the customizable armor FULL sets old and new, the flaming head with changing colors of OUR own, also custom weapons like halo online of OUR own, vehicles the same ones but add some new ones that we didn’t get to try like prophets chair with and without the crown on the chair, pelican and the phantom, Anti-Air wraith, and the scarab if it ever will be added on there. forge on halo 5 was great it will work on it to but needs to be better i really like how they worked on it, make the maps forgeable with open maps like halo 2A. EVERYONE also want the legendary helmet but make the helmet wearable and light up on the flash lights and the steal case. 343 i really want you to see this i really do but i’m just saying this not because i hate halo but i’m a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fan i really want you to bring back halo 3A everyone is begging for the game i know you didn’t show it at E3 but show the trailer of halo 3A but make it this year the same day and the same month, if u ignore halo 3A rather then starting halo 6 and some odd reason do halo 4A instead of halo 3A i’m really gonna be REALLY DISAPPOINTED then you, i love halo soo dang much but i really want 343 to listen and make halo amazing again. and this idea will help halo 6 again if you guys try your best on it halo wars 2 really doesn’t kinda help ISH,
mattel is been making halo 3 figures in mega constructs they are celebrating it and you guys aren’t so we need something to celebrate halo 3A either the actual game or do something for halo 5’s update cause we need something for it to celebrate the game
From: AgentStorm98
P.S. take my advice for this idea plz
P.P.S. everyone plz try to show this to 343
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> Guys this is for 343 industries please try to send this text to them from me or something i don’t just try your best
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> Dear 343 industries
>
> The people been asking, WE WANT HALO 3 ANNIVERSARY!!! when it showed nothing about it at E3, people started to rage, yes were glad that the flood came back ON halo wars 2, that means nothing about halo wars 2 we all know its part of the campaign and i heard that you said its been ten years since we haven’t seen the flood i know that but its ten year anniversary of halo 3A, we wanted halo 3A, i love the blur graphics on halo 2A it feels like a movie that is from the theaters, so here’s my idea for halo 3A design and gameplay, what they should do is halo 5 design in multiplayer BUT better, put the classic weapons that uses scopes like the br, sniper rifle, beam rifle, rocket launcher, spartan laser, and the carbine, also bring back the flame thrower, also the armor abilities bring them back as well. use the weapons that don’t have scopes do like halo 5’s smart link when u aim it will be better, the customizable armor needs to be there but not just the head and body, i really want new and old full sets of helmets, shoulders, arms, chest, legs, visors, also the katana sword, playable elites with the customizable armor FULL sets old and new, the flaming head with changing colors of OUR own, also custom weapons like halo online of OUR own, vehicles the same ones but add some new ones that we didn’t get to try like prophets chair with and without the crown on the chair, pelican and the phantom, Anti-Air wraith, and the scarab if it ever will be added on there. forge on halo 5 was great it will work on it to but needs to be better i really like how they worked on it, make the maps forgeable with open maps like halo 2A. EVERYONE also want the legendary helmet but make the helmet wearable and light up on the flash lights and the steal case. 343 i really want you to see this i really do but i’m just saying this not because i hate halo but i’m a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fan i really want you to bring back halo 3A everyone is begging for the game i know you didn’t show it at E3 but show the trailer of halo 3A but make it this year the same day and the same month, if u ignore halo 3A rather then starting halo 6 and some odd reason do halo 4A instead of halo 3A i’m really gonna be REALLY DISAPPOINTED then you, i love halo soo dang much but i really want 343 to listen and make halo amazing again. and this idea will help halo 6 again if you guys try your best on it halo wars 2 really doesn’t kinda help ISH,
> mattel is been making halo 3 figures in mega constructs they are celebrating it and you guys aren’t so we need something to celebrate halo 3A either the actual game or do something for halo 5’s update cause we need something for it to celebrate the game
>
> From: AgentStorm98
>
> P.S. take my advice for this idea plz
> P.P.S. everyone plz try to show this to 343
Please don’t use the “everyone wants it” argument. As you can see from this very post, half of the population wants it. The rest of us do not.
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> The issue here is that 343 have dug themselves into a hole that is quite difficult to get out of. A large portion of the community does not view 343 as a competent developer. Every single title under them has flopped in one way or another. H4 loadouts mixed art styles that did not sit well with the community, inability to play as elites and a no Firefight/Invasion. The MCC a bugged filled mess and the multiplayer of these games are not of the same quality of their originals. H2 Anniversary has loadouts instead of equal starts. H5, well im not even going to get into it because I will need an entire new post to cover everything wrong with that game.
>
> The point is we don’t trust 343 and have excellent reasoning not to. On 343’s view on the situation the past two anniversary additions have not been a huge profit return for them. Mainly because combat evolve did not have H1 multiplayer instead it was an expansion of reach which brought in DLC to split reach’s community. H2 was bundled in with the MCC which was built for a failing console at the time. In my honest opinion 343 have all of the game modes and feedback that Bungle left behind. For the most part Bungie went through the trail and errors and all 343 needs to do is continue that. However 343 is so hellbent on making Halo their own game that they are neglecting the pre-existing fans.
Agreed with everything you said. We all know Halo has a long future ahead of it in the new generation, but it will be an unhealthy one under 343’s wing. Not just for the franchise, but for the fans as well.
The more I think about it, and I’ve been thinking about it days before E3, I don’t want 343i anywhere near Halo 3. Seriously. Not counting ODST, Halo 3 was the very last Halo game where that feeling existed. The feeling somewhat came back for a brief time in Halo 4, but it vanished rather quickly because it didn’t have Bungie’s touch, and it showed in every department. I’m not knocking on Halo 4, because I do believe it’s a good Halo game, but it’s not up to the lofty heights of Bungie’s previous work.
No matter how hard they try to assimilate their predecessors, 343i will never be Bungie. It’s a shame too, because you can tell there’s a passion in what they do (surprisingly, yes), they just don’t show it in the right areas. I’m not saying they have to directly copy Bungie’s work, but more or less take notes on how it’s done. More importantly, how to speak out to the older generation of fans. Alongside Bungie, we made Halo the powerhouse juggernaut it was, and then the reigns were stolen from us by a company half the size with half the commitment and dedication.
@Nighthawk2552
“Please don’t use the “everyone wants it” argument. As you can see from this very post, half of the population wants it. The rest of us do not.”
Thats not true at all, many Halo Classic Fans that are open for a Halo 3 Anniversary Edition lost the truth in 343 a long time ago and arent spending their time on the Halo Forums since years i guess.
The people on this Forum ARENT representing the WHOLE fanbase of Halo, its just a little part. Theres no place for the most Halo Classic Fans on this Forum anymore, because the MCC Collection is broken. No Updates for MCC since years.
i really do want halo 6 to be better but they need to do something for the next halo game to make it perfect, halo wars 2 kinda does since we got the flood back, i’m just worried that when halo 6 comes out and someone says to 343 “is the flood going to be in halo 6” and if they respond “no there are not” basically every halo fan will be mad, i still like halo 1&2 anniversary i was just hoping, so hopefully we get something that we can get for what ever halo update we can get to celebrate halo 3, not the mcc, maybe halo 5, i don’t know if you guys agree about that cause some one found a mod that has brute weapons and maybe they might bring some stuff back it depends if they do the update for halo 5 for halo3A. Whats your thoughts about this just wondering plz let me know
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> @Nighthawk2552
> “Please don’t use the “everyone wants it” argument. As you can see from this very post, half of the population wants it. The rest of us do not.”
>
> Thats not true at all, many Halo Classic Fans that are open for a Halo 3 Anniversary Edition lost the truth in 343 a long time ago and arent spending their time on the Halo Forums since years i guess.
> The people on this Forum ARENT representing the WHOLE fanbase of Halo, its just a little part. Theres no place for the most Halo Classic Fans on this Forum anymore, because the MCC Collection is broken. No Updates for MCC since years.
I still play Halo CE and Halo 2 on my original Xbox and Halo 3 on my 360. I love all the games up to and including Reach, and all the books up to Contact Harvest, as well as Broken Circle. I think I’m a Halo Classic Fan. I don’t like people speaking for me, so that is what upset me more than anything.
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> > @Nighthawk2552
> > “Please don’t use the “everyone wants it” argument. As you can see from this very post, half of the population wants it. The rest of us do not.”
> >
> > Thats not true at all, many Halo Classic Fans that are open for a Halo 3 Anniversary Edition lost the truth in 343 a long time ago and arent spending their time on the Halo Forums since years i guess.
> > The people on this Forum ARENT representing the WHOLE fanbase of Halo, its just a little part. Theres no place for the most Halo Classic Fans on this Forum anymore, because the MCC Collection is broken. No Updates for MCC since years.
>
> I still play Halo CE and Halo 2 on my original Xbox and Halo 3 on my 360. I love all the games up to and including Reach, and all the books up to Contact Harvest, as well as Broken Circle. I think I’m a Halo Classic Fan. I don’t like people speaking for me, so that is what upset me more than anything.
I said many.
I’ve been saying for the longest time that Halo 6 has little if nothing to do with H3A. Saber Interactive, Certain Affinity, and Blur all worked on H2A and MCC so it is fair to say 343i will have plenty of time to develop a great Halo 6.
I’m one of the few who still believed H3A could happen after the disappointment of E3, but now I really don’t think it will. No, I don’t think you’re missing anything; I think not pursuing H3A is illogical and nothing anyone has said thus far justifies a lack thereof.
Also, those who say the graphics are fine are missing the bigger picture. The graphics of Halo 3 are significantly inferior to that of H2A and the cut scenes resemble a poorly constructed cartoon. I don’t know how anyone can watch the H2A cut scenes and not want the same treatment for H3. It’s absurd.
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> Why NOT do Halo 3 Anniversary this year?
I talked about this in another thread and I’ll bring my points here too. Firstly, let’s talk about what the previous anniversaries brought into the game that didn’t exist before.
CEA: Skulls, terminals, achievements, online co-op, new graphics in campaign
2A: Terminals, achievements for Xbox users, new skulls, online co-op, original mulitplayer online, anniversary multiplayer, new forge (best we had at the time), theater for anniversary mulitplayer, new graphics in campaign, Blur Studios cutscenes
Now, what would 3A potentially entail?
- New graphics in campaign
- Blur Studios cutscenes
- New skulls, maybe
- Not crappy forge?
The list of things to add in 3A is low. We already have multiplayer on both the Xbox 360 and Xbox One with co-op play supporting up to 4 players. Achievements already exist and can still be earned. Terminals exist in their Marathon-honored style. Skulls exist already. Forge exists and sucks, but people still make some crazy maps. So, besides some new graphics, what substantial changes would 3A make? Perhaps I missed something that could be realistically added to the game, in which, I would be interested to hear about.
TL;DR: 3A wouldn’t add as much as the previous anniversary games. Tell me what you think can be realistically added to the game other than a better forge system (that’s not a rhetorical question, I would actually like to know.)
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> I’ve been saying for the longest time that Halo 6 has little if nothing to do with H3A. Saber Interactive, Certain Affinity, and Blur all worked on H2A and MCC so it is fair to say 343i will have plenty of time to develop a great Halo 6.
>
> I’m one of the few who still believed H3A could happen after the disappointment of E3, but now I really don’t think it will. No, I don’t think you’re missing anything; I think not pursuing H3A is illogical and nothing anyone has said thus far justifies a lack thereof.
>
> Also, those who say the graphics are fine are missing the bigger picture. The graphics of Halo 3 are significantly inferior to that of H2A and the cut scenes resemble a poorly constructed cartoon. I don’t know how anyone can watch the H2A cut scenes and not want the same treatment for H3. It’s absurd.
Simple: I don’t play Halo 2A
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> > I’ve been saying for the longest time that Halo 6 has little if nothing to do with H3A. Saber Interactive, Certain Affinity, and Blur all worked on H2A and MCC so it is fair to say 343i will have plenty of time to develop a great Halo 6.
> >
> > I’m one of the few who still believed H3A could happen after the disappointment of E3, but now I really don’t think it will. No, I don’t think you’re missing anything; I think not pursuing H3A is illogical and nothing anyone has said thus far justifies a lack thereof.
> >
> > Also, those who say the graphics are fine are missing the bigger picture. The graphics of Halo 3 are significantly inferior to that of H2A and the cut scenes resemble a poorly constructed cartoon. I don’t know how anyone can watch the H2A cut scenes and not want the same treatment for H3. It’s absurd.
>
> Simple: I don’t play Halo 2A
And? Those who do can tell the difference.