H2 LASO Achievement Not Unlocking

I have already posted in the “Achievement Progress / Unlock Reports” thread, but was told that I should probably start a dedicated thread for this as well.

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Yesterday (1/20/19) I completed the Halo 2 LASO playlist on co-op. My partner (dantheman17ahs) and I played the whole playlist over the course of a couple weeks. We did every level 100% legit and our LASO progress says 15/15, but neither of us got the achievement.

Optimally, it would be amazing if someone from 343 could resolve this for us, as we put in somewhere around 30 hours of in-game-time to complete this playlist (had to try for Regret, Gravemind and The Great Journey more than once). Unfortunately, I have read that 343 is unresponsive to these kinds of issues. I hope that’s not true, but in case it is; I am also on the lookout for someone who is on the last few levels (preferably passed Gravemind, lol) who might be able to share their save with me, so that I can resume close to the end with my partner and see if that works for us, rather than starting the whole thing over.

Had the same thing happen to me today, spent weeks doing it. The achievement for easy, normal etc popped but no laso

You can’t share LASO saves anymore.

If you have 15/15 in the menu, then the achievement just needs to sync. Try going into various menus, looking through the game hub and through the full achievement list. Monopolized didn’t unlock for me until I was sitting in the playlist menu for some reason.

You can also try completing some levels again on a lower difficulty. It might sync after completing levels.

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> If you have 15/15 in the menu, then the achievement just needs to sync. Try going into various menus, looking through the game hub and through the full achievement list. Monopolized didn’t unlock for me until I was sitting in the playlist menu for some reason.
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> You can also try completing some levels again on a lower difficulty. It might sync after completing levels.

It’s mostly true that playlist saves can no longer be shared to other players, specifically regarding the last mission of the playlist. However, there are one or two cases in which it may work. For example, say I’m on the mission “Gravemind” in the Halo 2 LASO playlist, and I have a player who is at a different place in the playlist join in and complete the mission. That player may be able to continue on their own with the playlist and finish it out, although it may not count for playlist completion, as in OP’s case. From my understanding, playlists only register as complete when all missions have been played and the last mission is completed after all of the others have been played.

I find it interesting, however, that one can no longer join the last mission of the playlist, complete it, and get credit for it. The reasoning makes sense since the newcomer wouldn’t have put in the effort, but evidently the Solo-only missions serve as an unfortunate exception to the rule.

OP, have you tried looking at the overall playlist menu to see if it registers the completion of the playlist? I see that you have three playlists completed on that screen, but I’m curious to know if it says the same when looking at the playlist menu for all the games (by this expression, I mean where you select which game’s playlists to choose from, not the Cross-game playlists). That may help shed some light on how to fix this annoying issue. I find it fairly frustrating that the Solo missions in these playlists can prevent completion from registering if you start it in Co-op. I am now gravely concerned for my progress in the Legendary MC Saga playlist, wherein every game is on LASO difficulty, and the only way to complete the two Solo missions is to also complete The Maw on Solo, which my friend and I conveniently did not. Thus, we are now on Cairo Station, and I am not sure that those missions will register as completed, now.

The best way to combat this bug in the future, though, is to come up with a working solution that does not allow for cheating. Personally, I believe that if someone comes in at a later point in the playlist and goes to the end, they should not get the achievement until they complete the other missions. However, if someone does the missions out of order for whatever reason, but still completes them all, I think they should still get the achievement upon receiving the 15/15 on the menu, to use the Halo 2 LASO achievement as an example (343 could change the internal unlock mechanism to allow it with relative ease, although it may require significant testing). Furthermore, when it comes to the two Solo missions, I believe they should be counted if the mission preceding them and the mission following them in the playlist are both completed. For example, in the Legendary MC Saga playlist, if I completed The Maw and Cairo Station in the playlist, I should receive credit for completing Heretic and The Armory, regardless of whether I actually played them, which makes sense since one is a cutscene and the other is just a slightly more interactive cutscene, both of which hold no difficulty on LASO. Thus, I believe a good solution is the following:

  • When a player completes every mission included a playlist through the playlist UI, count the playlist as having been completed, both in the UI and for the achievements, even if the missions in the playlist were not played in the predetermined order. The player has still proven their abilities and shown that they can complete the playlist in order, as the missions are independent with the exception of story progression. Also, it is worth noting that this rule does not mean that the playlists should have missions on-demand. Instead, it is meant as a fix for when missions don’t count during normal progression, or when joining in on the journey on a later mission. - Give credit for completing the Solo missions in Halo 2 (Heretic and The Armory) when the missions preceding and following them are completed in the playlist. In the Halo 2 playlists, give credit when Cairo Station is completed, as no prior mission exists. This way, even if the playlist is played entirely in Co-op, completion is not withheld from the players.Hopefully, you won’t have to recomplete the entire LASO Campaign, as it can be very rough at times. I’ve completed it twice, and my conclusion is that Regret is easily the worst mission in the franchise for Co-op LASO, although Gravemind can also be rough. Good luck, OP!

No, the playlist is considered incomplete. I show 2/9 on my Halo 2 playlist menu, 2 in career>stats>halo 2>playlists, and H2 LASO completion should have also been my connoisseur achievement. This seems to be a widespread issue, as I have found ~10 other people with the same problem in the last 3 days (not looking that hard). I wish this was as well known as it is a problem, seeing as how its been out there for a while now > https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/99tr2c/mcc_campaign_progress_bug_insider/

I am currently testing its repeat-ability with other H2 full campaign playlists by recreating what I believe the root problem is (completion out of order). I am also going to be testing out picking up saves for those playlists and replaying the last level of a playlist to see if that remedies it. If this works like I hope it does, I will be posting what I find so that maybe it will prevent other people from making the same mistake. Or help people with the same problem, if they can find someone who can share a late game save, that is.

As of right now, I believe you are correct in that the “check” for completion involves the last level and not the actual x/x. I don’t pretend to know the best way to go about a “check” for these kinds of things, but on the face of it, the last level “check” is pretty poor. Especially when the playlist in question has a description like “For dedicated thrill seekers only. This playlist supports co-op play” and the first 2 missions are skipped in co-op play. Not to mention that completing this playlist is the only way to get what is currently the second hardest achievement in all Halo games and counts toward 1/4 of the hardest.

I had the same thing with ODST LASO. It said I had completed every level on LASO except the epilogue, but of course, I couldn’t resume at the epilogue because it resumed at Tayari. Really annoying.

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> I had the same thing with ODST LASO. It said I had completed every level on LASO except the epilogue, but of course, I couldn’t resume at the epilogue because it resumed at Tayari. Really annoying.

Is the epilogue for some reason solo only on LASO? Or is there another reason you identified that it might not have counted the epilogue? Interested since its on my to-do list also.

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> > I had the same thing with ODST LASO. It said I had completed every level on LASO except the epilogue, but of course, I couldn’t resume at the epilogue because it resumed at Tayari. Really annoying.
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> Is the epilogue for some reason solo only on LASO? Or is there another reason you identified that it might not have counted the epilogue? Interested since its on my to-do list also.

I’ve heard of this issue happening, and I’ve seen it happen to one of my friends. On the bright side, it’s not common, and it’s not tied to Solo or Co-op, but it’s random and could potentially strike at any time. I wouldn’t worry about it as much, but it’s still good to be aware that it can happen, as it is frustrating.

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> > I had the same thing with ODST LASO. It said I had completed every level on LASO except the epilogue, but of course, I couldn’t resume at the epilogue because it resumed at Tayari. Really annoying.
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> Is the epilogue for some reason solo only on LASO? Or is there another reason you identified that it might not have counted the epilogue? Interested since its on my to-do list also.

I did it on co-op and I had to do ODST LASO 3 times before it unlocked. I began to realize that, for me personally, it only unlocked when I was the host.

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> I’ve heard of this issue happening, and I’ve seen it happen to one of my friends. On the bright side, it’s not common, and it’s not tied to Solo or Co-op, but it’s random and could potentially strike at any time. I wouldn’t worry about it as much, but it’s still good to be aware that it can happen, as it is frustrating.

In the achievement progress thread there are a couple accounts of something similar happening in H3 LASO too.

As an update;

I have tested the easy/normal H2 playlists on multiple accounts and in various scenarios and found that completion out of order is indeed the root cause, and that 1) picking up progress from other players is doable and repeatable, and 2) completing the last mission of the playlist will trigger completion of the playlist (if all other mission are complete). Preferably, I would like to test the solution on LASO before saying “it will work”, in case they have given special rules to that playlist, but the closest save I have found to pick up on is Regret… and nobody wants to do regret for a 3rd time, lol. But, assuming there are no special rules in place for LASO though, it should work perfectly.

In addition, I was board enough to go through the Achievement Progress thread as far back as October and message everyone who posted about LASO not unlocking (unless the reason was blatantly obvious in their post), including LASO other than H2. So far, 100% of the people who messaged me back, and 100% found through other outlets have confirmed that the playlist was completed out of order for one reason or another.

Will probably be making a dedicated post about this as some sort of PSA.

To get the LASO achevment you must be connected to Xbox live the whole time

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> To get the LASO achevment you must be connected to Xbox live the whole time

I was online the whole time. Beat every level on co-op with someone ~900 miles away :slight_smile: . The achievement not unlocking was due to how the game checks for completion, which is a terrible design. I have since got the achievement by picking up the regret save I mentioned in my last comment and replaying the last 7 levels for a 2nd (in some cases 3rd) time. I have also helped 2 others in the same position get the achievement.