Guys,I’m being serious here, even if usually i troll in the hardest ways. Why do you complain SO MUCH about the few things you saw about Halo 4? You don’t even know how those “perks” work. Plus, you should read those posts (Frankie <3):
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35756374&postcount=1032
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35757621&postcount=1081
You can clearly see in the first post that “classic Halo is still here”. SO WHY THE -Yoink- ARE YOU COMPLAINING? It’s so easy to understand that Matchmaking will be devided in Social playlists and Ranked/Competitive/Classic playlists. If you won’t enjoy Halo 4, you will be free to play classic Halo. Just a reminder for who didn’t know anything about those 2 posts.
Sorry for my bad english, I’m Italian 
It’s because they’re lying. They say things like “Classic Halo is still here!” and “It’ll be awesome!” to bring hope into the community. It’s meant to calm you down.
Also, we do know how it’s going to work. They said “perks”. The quotations implying that Halo 4 will have a system based on perks, what popular game that we all know and love (yeah right) has a perk system?
Call of Duty.
So, this is how we know that the game will play like this, and no one wants that. It will not be about starting equally on the field, having your team scramble against the other for the weapons on the map. it will be, you spawn with this gadget. I spawn with this one. If I’m a higher rank than you, my gadget it better. So, I will win, and you lose, because you haven’t played the game as much as I have.
it’s not that hard to figure out really. Also, I’m Italian too!
> It’s because they’re lying. They say things like “Classic Halo is still here!” and “It’ll be awesome!” to bring hope into the community. It’s meant to calm you down.
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> Also, we do know how it’s going to work. They said “perks”. The quotations implying that Halo 4 will have a system based on perks, what popular game that we all know and love (yeah right) has a perk system?
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> Call of Duty.
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> So, this is how we know that the game will play like this, and no one wants that. It will not be about starting equally on the field, having your team scramble against the other for the weapons on the map. it will be, you spawn with this gadget. I spawn with this one. If I’m a higher rank than you, my gadget it better. So, I will win, and you lose, because you haven’t played the game as much as I have.
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> it’s not that hard to figure out really. Also, I’m Italian too!
Just stop.
Why would people NOT be skeptical about perks?
At least Frank said, “soon.” Hopefully soon isn’t months to come, this raging madness must cease. The infection must stop. Good to see that they are going to explain the perks a little more.
Whatever it may be, I will find may way around it, and still love the game.
> > It’s because they’re lying. They say things like “Classic Halo is still here!” and “It’ll be awesome!” to bring hope into the community. It’s meant to calm you down.
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> > Also, we do know how it’s going to work. They said “perks”. The quotations implying that Halo 4 will have a system based on perks, what popular game that we all know and love (yeah right) has a perk system?
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> > Call of Duty.
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> > So, this is how we know that the game will play like this, and no one wants that. It will not be about starting equally on the field, having your team scramble against the other for the weapons on the map. it will be, you spawn with this gadget. I spawn with this one. If I’m a higher rank than you, my gadget it better. So, I will win, and you lose, because you haven’t played the game as much as I have.
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> > it’s not that hard to figure out really. Also, I’m Italian too!
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> Just stop.
No, I believe my opinion is valid and that I have the right to say what I want. If you want, though, you can happily block me so you can’t see my posts.
> It’s because they’re lying. They say things like “Classic Halo is still here!” and “It’ll be awesome!” to bring hope into the community. It’s meant to calm you down.
>
> Also, we do know how it’s going to work. They said “perks”. The quotations implying that Halo 4 will have a system based on perks, what popular game that we all know and love (yeah right) has a perk system?
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> Call of Duty.
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> So, this is how we know that the game will play like this, and no one wants that. <mark>It will not be about starting equally on the field, having your team scramble against the other for the weapons on the map. it will be, you spawn with this gadget. I spawn with this one. If I’m a higher rank than you, my gadget it better. So, I will win, and you lose, because you haven’t played the game as much as I have</mark>.
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> it’s not that hard to figure out really. Also, I’m Italian too!
The inherent problem to the Progressive System that’s said to have in Halo 4.
frankie said himself that they’re not perks… Someone used the wrong wordings
They’re just trying to calm people down. So far the game looks completely different in a bad way, so of course they’re going to say it still “feels” like Halo even though it’s completely different. They’re trying to bring in CoD fans with their changes while trying to keep old fans by reassuring them it’s the same.
> They’re just trying to calm people down. So far the game looks completely different in a bad way, so of course they’re going to say it still “feels” like Halo even though it’s completely different. They’re trying to bring in CoD fans with their changes while trying to keep old fans by reassuring them it’s the same.
This man right here.
> They’re just trying to calm people down. So far the game looks completely different in a bad way, so of course they’re going to say it still “feels” like Halo even though it’s completely different. They’re trying to bring in CoD fans with their changes while trying to keep old fans by reassuring them it’s the same.
We get one mention of so called “Perks”
And instantly 343 is a lying bunch of COD sellouts who are completely changing the Halo multi-player formula because Halo doesn’t already have enough fans?
Get your head out of your -Yoink-.
this is insaine i really gota just question the sanity of people lol. somone said perks or somthing to that effect in passing, it gets blown out of control all over the net. Then people come on here going nuts saying its bad this game is fail, this perk will ruin halo i know wht it is ect.
fact of the matter is , no one knows not even that previous poster who goes on like hes plyed the game and knows everything about it and that hes so adament about perks ruining halo and how its a rock paper sissors system. Dont lison to these people they dont know anything , no one does yet.
use your brains people , and dont lison to people on the forums who think they know how things are and how much fail it is. WAit and see what happens, take details with a pinch of salt. Once we see proper gameplay at a later date then we can start to ague about whats 343 has done well and what they havent.
> It’s because they’re lying. They say things like “Classic Halo is still here!” and “It’ll be awesome!” to bring hope into the community. It’s meant to calm you down.
>
> Also, we do know how it’s going to work. They said “perks”. The quotations implying that Halo 4 will have a system based on perks, what popular game that we all know and love (yeah right) has a perk system?
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> Call of Duty.
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> <mark>So, this is how we know that the game will play like this, and no one wants that. It will not be about starting equally on the field, having your team scramble against the other for the weapons on the map. it will be, you spawn with this gadget. I spawn with this one. If I’m a higher rank than you, my gadget it better. So, I will win, and you lose, because you haven’t played the game as much as I have.</mark>
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> it’s not that hard to figure out really. Also, I’m Italian too!
I don’t think they are lying, because why would they knowingly make a game that they know the comunity will hate. They are telling the truth, or at least what’s the truth for them. Most of them have played halo from the beginning and all of them love the games, therefore I trust them.
I do actually agree with your marked text above. Halo is all about fighting for map control, and control over the weapons. Therefore would the adding of so called perks disrupt the very foundation of the game. But if 343i comes up with a good reason to have them and do not make them over powered (i.e. that they make for a balanced gameplay), then I will be happy.
Until then we will just have to wait and see. But don’t expect the worst just because it’s new stuff. : )
does it matter what they are called? Anything that is granted to one player at the start of a match and not to another player at the start of a match gives one player an advantage over the other player, just because he plays more. That’s bad news, no matter what it’s called.
Maybe these rewards gained from playing the game give you an advantage in one situation and a disadvantage in another, seemingly causing it all to be balanced. But that would essentially be the same as starting with different armor abilities: every armor ability has its advantages and disadvantages and retain some kind of balance.
But I’ve only started to realise the problems loadouts really caused once I started to delve deeper and everyone got to know the game better.
Example:
Sure, jetpackers are vulnerable when they jetpack up in the air. But if someone holds down a high area, a jetpacker can completely negate their map control by jetpacking higher than their position. Map control, something normally fought for, is available at the press of a button. Not to mention the noob tactic of flying straight up, making headshot easy for the jetpacker and hard for the grounded player. Jetpack also greatly increases the effectiveness of rockets, as you can always place a rocket at the enemy’s feet.
While these gameplay changes seem balanced, they introduce a ton of variables, like the AA’s did, rendering them impossible to balance out perfectly, resulting in issues, like with Armor abilities.
Inconsistencies and complexity of the game both cause stress and frustration, and that is why rank must have absolutely no influence on gameplay whatsoever. (I like owning mythics on reach)
EDIT: Team Fortress 2 is a game based entirely on spawning with different loadouts and is actually quite balanced. This is only possible because one class can’t pick up weapons of another class, ensuring that every class acts consistently in relation to the others. This is the only way of perfectly balancing a difference in equipment on spawn and since Halo features many weapons and power weapons to be swapped etc. this is not an option for it.
I don’t know what to write… You guys are so…
It seems that you guys have selecting vision and hearing and that if someone tries to tell something, you use your selective vision and hearing and make stuff up. Saying that they are lying and theure just saying that to reasure fans is just making stuff up. It’s ridiculous… You guys are so ridiculous… Why are you here when you are incapable of proper game forum discussion! Gah!
> > They’re just trying to calm people down. So far the game looks completely different in a bad way, so of course they’re going to say it still “feels” like Halo even though it’s completely different. They’re trying to bring in CoD fans with their changes while trying to keep old fans by reassuring them it’s the same.
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> We get one mention of so called “Perks”
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> And instantly 343 is a lying bunch of COD sellouts who are completely changing the Halo multi-player formula because Halo doesn’t already have enough fans?
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> Get your head out of your -Yoink!-.
Would you rather us not be skeptical and let them destroy Halo?
And seriously, people still don’t realize; when you complain about complainers you’re just as bad as the complainers in the first place (if not worse). We are complaining because we care about Halo and no longer trust that it’s in good hands after Reach.
If you had a girlfriend who cheated on you all the time and your friend mentioned that he heard from a guy who heard from a guy who said he -Yoink- ed your girlfriend, are you really going to believe she’s innocent until proven guilty? No, you’re going to flip the -Yoink- out. Maybe you’ll be wrong, but you’ll most likely be right.
We are freaking out because we are scared that Halo will never be restored to it’s former glory, and we want 343 to know that such changed are unwelcomed by much of the hardcore Halo fanbase.
> It’s because they’re lying. They say things like “Classic Halo is still here!” and “It’ll be awesome!” to bring hope into the community. It’s meant to calm you down.
>
> Also, we do know how it’s going to work. They said “perks”. The quotations implying that Halo 4 will have a system based on perks, what popular game that we all know and love (yeah right) has a perk system?
>
> Call of Duty.
>
> So, this is how we know that the game will play like this, and no one wants that. It will not be about starting equally on the field, having your team scramble against the other for the weapons on the map. it will be, you spawn with this gadget. I spawn with this one. If I’m a higher rank than you, my gadget it better. So, I will win, and you lose, because you haven’t played the game as much as I have.
>
> it’s not that hard to figure out really. Also, I’m Italian too!
Hi.
I’m getting so sick of hearing the word ‘Perk’ and ‘Cod’ in the same sentence.
Just because a game has a similar system whether it be levelling, customisation, abilities, weapons etc etc. IT DOES NOT MAKE IT THE SAME GAME. Do you think that since the first game ever integrated a perk system, every other game had to sign an agreement never to incorporate the same system into theirs? Besides, we have been reminded that the word ‘perk’ was not stated to describe Halo 4’s abilities, it was sadly presented that way by press and audiences at the Springfest.
I’m also sick of hearing how people want the classic halo back, whilst completely neglecting the fact, GAMES HAVE TO EVOLVE. If 343i listened exclusively to some people and reacted, we would be getting Halo 3, titled Halo 4. The game ‘has’ to evolve and so do you. 343i say “Classic Halo is still here!” because it is, it just has added features to make it Halo 4 as well.
Please, just please will people appreciate and actually understand what it means to develop a new game, especially in such a franchise as Halo.