Guns speed and ammo caps

Right to the point why in halo did the shotguns get the second biggest nerf in the game from halo ce to halo 3, 12 shots and efficient enough cocking of the gun now a lot of ppl are cool with this but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
In life something aren’t noticed till pointed out

what?

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> what?

Yeah me neither I don’t understand what the OP is trying to say.

OP would you kindly try and rephrase what you’re trying to say? That would be greatly appreciated.

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> Yeah me neither I don’t understand what the OP is trying to say.
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> OP would you kindly try and rephrase what you’re trying to say? That would be greatly appreciated.

I now know what the OP is blabbering about: the nerfs to the shotgun throughout the years.

It’s a simple question of balance. A 12-round, one-shot death machine wouldn’t be accepted in the current sandbox, where one could be unstoppable. A shorter magazine forces you to place your shots instead of mindlessly blasting around in hopes of killing someone.

Outside of the Lawgiver and Oathsworn, a faster-firing shotgun just isn’t viable. The weapon would be depleted sooner than anything else.

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> but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.

Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?

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> > but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
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> Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?

I think the OP wants the base shotgun to have a faster fire rate.

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> > > but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
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> > Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?
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> I think the OP wants the base shotgun to have a faster fire rate.

after reading his post a few more times and trying to add grammar to it myself I think I finally get it. Reading your post above just concreted that. I’m pretty confident what you stated was correct. But who knows lol. Op could have said a Nerf to ammo capacity and fire rate but instead he just said Nerf to the whole gun. Also the whole gun isn’t really needed because the damage and range has been increased. I still dont get why he needs faster firing guns though.

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> > > but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
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> > Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?
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> I think the OP wants the base shotgun to have a faster fire rate.

Maybe, but I just don’t get what that even has to do with shotty snipers, unless he’s never used a shotgun anywhere outside of that one particular playlist, and is just now judging the Shotgun. You’re probably right, but all in all, this post is a mess.

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> > > > but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
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> > > Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?
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> > I think the OP wants the base shotgun to have a faster fire rate.
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> after reading his post a few more times and trying to add grammar to it myself I think I finally get it. Reading your post above just concreted that. I’m pretty confident what you stated was correct. But who knows lol. Op could have said a Nerf to ammo capacity and fire rate but instead he just said Nerf to the whole gun. Also the whole gun isn’t really needed because the damage and range has been increased. I still dont get why he needs faster firing guns though.

Probably because he gets killed while cycling a new shell into the chamber. Or maybe he misses the auto-shotties of other games?
IDK, all I know is that I can single-man an entire held base in Warzone Assault with a Blaze of Glory.

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> > > > > but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
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> > > > Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?
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> > > I think the OP wants the base shotgun to have a faster fire rate.
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> > after reading his post a few more times and trying to add grammar to it myself I think I finally get it. Reading your post above just concreted that. I’m pretty confident what you stated was correct. But who knows lol. Op could have said a Nerf to ammo capacity and fire rate but instead he just said Nerf to the whole gun. Also the whole gun isn’t really needed because the damage and range has been increased. I still dont get why he needs faster firing guns though.
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> Probably because he gets killed while cycling a new shell into the chamber. Or maybe he misses the auto-shotties of other games?
> IDK, all I know is that I can single-man an entire held base in Warzone Assault with a Blaze of Glory.

if anything though shotguns are stronger now. The damage and range is MUCH higher.

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> > > > > > but with the update and removal of shoty snipers we could at least get faster guns.
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> > > > > Shotty Snipers was only in the rotation for a few months, not forever, and even then I have absolutely no idea what you’re implying. What do you mean by faster guns?
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> > > > I think the OP wants the base shotgun to have a faster fire rate.
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> > > after reading his post a few more times and trying to add grammar to it myself I think I finally get it. Reading your post above just concreted that. I’m pretty confident what you stated was correct. But who knows lol. Op could have said a Nerf to ammo capacity and fire rate but instead he just said Nerf to the whole gun. Also the whole gun isn’t really needed because the damage and range has been increased. I still dont get why he needs faster firing guns though.
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> > Probably because he gets killed while cycling a new shell into the chamber. Or maybe he misses the auto-shotties of other games?
> > IDK, all I know is that I can single-man an entire held base in Warzone Assault with a Blaze of Glory.
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> if anything though shotguns are stronger now. The damage and range is MUCH higher.

So says my friend whenever she’s alone defending a base in CTF.
“Oh hell there’s one coming in-shotgun blast-wait never mind I got him. Holy crap does this thing have some range, geez!”

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> > > what?
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> > Yeah me neither I don’t understand what the OP is trying to say.
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> > OP would you kindly try and rephrase what you’re trying to say? That would be greatly appreciated.
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> I now know what the OP is blabbering about: the nerfs to the shotgun throughout the years.
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> It’s a simple question of balance. A 12-round, one-shot death machine wouldn’t be accepted in the current sandbox, where one could be unstoppable. A shorter magazine forces you to place your shots instead of mindlessly blasting around in hopes of killing someone.
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> Outside of the Lawgiver and Oathsworn, a faster-firing shotgun just isn’t viable. The weapon would be depleted sooner than anything else.

Thank you for elaborating.

I see that I could have worded it differently but in a blind rage of loving infection and breakout but hateing the fact the if I miss the first shot I than get put down like a bad habit.Shoty snipers is a fun game and for the updated to rotate this out that is unfortunate the shotgun has range and power because of the shields but playing at such a slow rate of fire sucks

personally i think you get a new kind of respect and understanding of how fast and powerful the shotgun is after you’ve played a few rounds of infection :slight_smile:

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> personally i think you get a new kind of respect and understanding of how fast and powerful the shotgun is after you’ve played a few rounds of infection :slight_smile:

Yes thats how I stared to love them and when play the MCC I just noticed how fast they are there to the speed and ammo here

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> > personally i think you get a new kind of respect and understanding of how fast and powerful the shotgun is after you’ve played a few rounds of infection :slight_smile:
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> Yes thats how I stared to love them and when play the MCC I just noticed how fast they are there to the speed and ammo here

so true trying to get the timing right as a zombie comes in for a strike lol