Guilty Spark Talking About Halo Function

When GS spoke about the function of the Halos, he often says at the end, “But you already knew this, didn’t you?”, or something like it. Is there something mentioned in the Forerunner Saga novels that explains why the new generation of species should have already known about the rings? 343 hasn’t forgotten about this, because during GS’s talk with the Heretic leader in the 11th terminal, he says “Surly you knew all of this already”.

Thoughts??

I’m thinking that if I were a forerunner robot like guilty spark, that I would assume that they would imprint something in their dna, which I think they did.

> When GS spoke about the function of the Halos, he often says at the end, “But you already knew this, didn’t you?”, or something like it. Is there something mentioned in the Forerunner Saga novels that explains why the new generation of species should have already known about the rings? 343 hasn’t forgotten about this, because during <mark>GS’s talk with the Heretic leader in the 11th terminal, he says “Surly you knew all of this already”.</mark>
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I think Guilty Spark assumed that “all” of the Covenant knew about the true purpose of the Halos. The prophets may have known, but they sure weren’t keeping there warriors in the loop. Hence why the Heretic Leader began rebelling against the Prophets, resulting in the Elites becoming Disbanded from the Covenant.

> I’m thinking that if I were a forerunner robot like guilty spark, that I would assume that they would imprint something in their dna, which I think they did.

Perhaps he was assuming they had the info on the Halos from their Geas. Humans were imprinted with Geas, I dunno about any other species besides Forerunners and Humans having Geas tho :\

Spark assumed we found Halo after long study of the artifacts the forerunners left behind, not rushed there out of desperation, knowing literally nothing about it besides that it might change our fortune in the war.

> > When GS spoke about the function of the Halos, he often says at the end, “But you already knew this, didn’t you?”, or something like it. Is there something mentioned in the Forerunner Saga novels that explains why the new generation of species should have already known about the rings? 343 hasn’t forgotten about this, because during <mark>GS’s talk with the Heretic leader in the 11th terminal, he says “Surly you knew all of this already”.</mark>
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> I think Guilty Spark assumed that “all” of the Covenant knew about the true purpose of the Halos. The prophets may have known, but they sure weren’t keeping there warriors in the loop. Hence why the Heretic Leader began rebelling against the Prophets, resulting in the Elites becoming Disbanded from the Covenant.

I think he’s talking about how guilty spark thought master chief knew about the halo’s already, which now that I think about it my last post about their dna doesn’t sound too great, I still think they did it, but I think guilty spark just assumed that master chief knew his ancestors the forerunner and was briefed on being a reclaimer or something, but of course that never happened because they were dead a long time before him.

> > I’m thinking that if I were a forerunner robot like guilty spark, that I would assume that they would imprint something in their dna, which I think they did.
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> Perhaps he was assuming they had the info on the Halos from their Geas. Humans were imprinted with Geas, I dunno about any other species besides Forerunners and Humans having Geas tho :\

What is Geas?

343 Guilty Spark is clinically insane.

I would go with the geas thing, but remember that 343GS also told Chief, “Last time you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it?”

That implies either something really deep about humanity as a whole, that GS thought John was someone else, or he’s just freaking insane. O.o

Considering the human race is know as the “inheritor/reclaimer race”, then I find it acceptable that GS ASSUMED that Chief/anyone else “already knew this”; they aren’t called inheretors or reclaimers for nothing

> When GS spoke about the function of the Halos, he often says at the end, “But you already knew this, didn’t you?”, or something like it. Is there something mentioned in the Forerunner Saga novels that explains why the new generation of species should have already known about the rings? 343 hasn’t forgotten about this, because during GS’s talk with the Heretic leader in the 11th terminal, he says “Surly you knew all of this already”.
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I think it is due to Forerunner Geas in modern Halo species. Perhaps Silentium goes over this.

> > > I’m thinking that if I were a forerunner robot like guilty spark, that I would assume that they would imprint something in their dna, which I think they did.
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Sorry to throw a link at you but this can explain better than I can. Plus I’ve typed it about 3 times and had an error >:(

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Mind tackling this one Cobra :wink:

> I would go with the geas thing, but remember that 343GS also told Chief, “Last time you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it?”
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> That implies either something really deep about humanity as a whole, that GS thought John was someone else, or he’s just freaking insane. O.o

I think GS is Recalling a previous encounter with a Geas that is stored within John-117.

In the first Anniversary Terminal he says “I have been away far too long, YOU have been away far too long.”

> I would go with the geas thing, but remember that <mark>343GS also told Chief, “Last time you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it?”</mark>
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> That implies either something really deep about humanity as a whole, that GS thought John was someone else, or he’s just freaking insane. O.o

I’d seriously love an explanation to this quote. Something more interesting than GS is insane though. Hopefully this new trilogy takes us this deep.

Maybe chief is somehow, through technology, related to the Didact. I have not read these books yet, but I remember people talking about the Forerunner Saga saying something about Bornstellar who I think becomes the Didact and through his travels meets and becomes some kind of acquaintance with the guy who becomes GS.

> > I would go with the geas thing, but remember that 343GS also told Chief, “Last time you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it?”
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> I think GS is Recalling a previous encounter with a Geas that is stored within John-117.
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> In the first Anniversary Terminal he says “I have been away far too long, YOU have been away far too long.”

I thought he just mistook Chief for Didact.

Thus far, geas’ have been a series of genetic commands and genetic imprints of memories. The commands can point someone towards an object of interest as seen in Primordium or cause an action, like Chakas and Riser chanting to reveal the Ur-Didact’s Cryptum.

We also see a geas being a memory and presence of somebody preserved through brevet mutations and being “Composed” by the Composer. Bornsteller could hear the Ur-Didact, Chakas could hear the Lord of Admirals and so on.

Fun fact: geas (or geis) is pronounced “gesh.” It’s an Irish and Scottish/Gaelic mythological concept. The plural form is “geasa” (edit: pronounced “gesh-ah”).

As for Guilty Spark, I suppose he must have a reason to believe everyone would be up to speed on this stuff. Maybe that was the plan? To make all of these species aware of the past at some point after the Forerunners were gone? Or maybe it’s one of those ways in which Guilty Spark was kinda nutso.

> Thus far, geas’ have been a series of genetic commands and genetic imprints of memories. The commands can point someone towards an object of interest as seen in Primordium or cause an action, like Chakas and Riser chanting to reveal the Ur-Didact’s Cryptum.
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> We also see a geas being a memory and presence of somebody preserved through brevet mutations and being “Composed” by the Composer. Bornsteller could hear the Ur-Didact, Chakas could hear the Lord of Admirals and so on.

So basically, it’s an Animus?

Well you don’t re-live the memories perse, the memories are still full conscious and communicate with you, they can even temporarily take over your body and talk.

Man, just thinking about it. . .
A regular 6 years old boy come to carry this legacy