Once again, angry joe to the rescue. I agree with 90% said. watch the req packs cost even more points in halo 6.
I r8 this review 2/10, too much hypocrisy.
-Yoink- review
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> I r8 this review 2/10, too much hypocrisy.
You failed to justify your review, unlike Joe Vargas. Also, argument from fallacy.
Yep…he had no idea that splits creek was out…too dim witted to understand why and could not be bothered to research how war zone works or when Forge is slated for…
Oh yeah awe add one review from someone who paid no attention
Funny review. It’s very true.
I agreed with most of what he said. Except I would rate Halo 5 a 7/10 and possibly a 8/10 if Forge is as good as it should be.
I like joes reviews, but you have to remember this is his opinion, and he said hes coming from a perspetive of a mega casual player. He didnt play halo 4, he didnt know of the changes, he came into 5 thinking it would be like 3 as thats the last one he spent any significant time on. He played halos campagin on normal with 4 players and one of them was a very good player. They tore threw the game in 4 and a half hours, and that was his exsperiance. Ofc thats going to stunt your first impressions alot. Then i watched him on twitch play halo 5 mp, he must of put in a total of about 6 hours, he prity much came last every game and didnt even mange to get a hold on jump boosting ect. There is no way a person like that can give an in depth opinion to the games mechanics and the depth of mp, so to him it just wasnt fun. He truggled to enjoy it because he was dying every 5 secends. So again not saying joe is wrong but this review is more for people who are just like joe and are coming into halo with little to no info as to WTF is going on
With reviews you wnt to look for people with similur tastes to yourself so you can see if somone like you would like it , that gives a better impression. I enjoy joes reviews more for his comedy and over the top personality. He tends to get stuck on things he doesnt like and cant let them go , but its also why hes enjoyale to watch in my opinion lol.
As for the req packs, his math is way way off, because hes assuming your just buying gold packs only, when if you look into it you can get most things from bronze packs until u have your main common, and uncommon unlocks, then you can move up to silvers, do that again for rares, then once u got alot move up to golds, that way ur more chance to getting legendarys as it reduces the chances of getting low lvl cards in gold packs. Plus u have to remember hes getting terrible scores in mp games so his req points income will be alot lower than the avarage halo player.
He didnt enjoy the story, but he did say that halo fans seem to like it so there must be somthing there, but if your not big into halo its going to go over your head , and tbh i agree. As much as i enjoy h5s campgin there are so many nods for the hardcore fan that made it great for me , yet i can totally undersatnd thats going to fly over the majority of peoples heads and there just see the core of the story which is prity simple, and hard to get invested into.
I do however agree that the games build up and trailers were prity bad in misleading people to think the main story will be about chief vs locke. Kinda reminds me of halo 2 and Finish the fight, oh no wait finish the fight in halo 3 lol. As well made as they were was a shame that they did mislead people. Still can you really put the games score down because of pre launch issues when its not really anything to do with the actual game you buy and play, i duno i gues that comes down to each persons only personal opinion.
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> You failed to justify your review, unlike Joe Vargas. Also, argument from fallacy.
I can give plenty of reasons.
Rants about delayed forge, doesn’t blink an eye at GTA 5 and MGS 5 having their entire multiplayer components missing.
Complains about microtransactions and short campaign, says battlefield 3 and 4 are 8 or 9 material when they have terrible campaigns, intrusive microtransactions, and 50 dollar season passes, with a load bugs to go along with it.
Is mediocre at multiplayer, complains that it’s the games fault in twitch streams.
Tries to appeal to his fanbase over objectivity, and goes into certain games with certain attitudes.
Gives game a 6/10, same score as Total War Rome 2, which he had nothing positive to say about, yet gave it that score for no reason.
Unknowledgeable on lore, complains when he doesn’t understand because he didn’t play Halo 4.
That’s just a few, want me to go on?
I still haven’t heard a single reason why REQ microtransactions are a bad thing. People just give generic responses like “it’s p2w” or “it ruins the game” without explaining at all why. Even if you have the best weapons and vehicles in the game, you can’t spam them due to how the energy system works and you can easily get killed and lose your legendary weapon or have your ONI Scorpion get boarded.
Angry Joe reviews aren’t very accurate to say the least. Not to mention he isn’t very well informed about basic info that pretty much everyone else knew about like no splitscreen, forge in December, etc…
Score is 6 because some of the future content are not on Launch
But List REQ packs as a negative because it might lead the future content to become more unfair microtransactio based
So youre telling future content that is Forge and Free DLC are not counted yet the dangers of microtransactions which is also in the future are counted?
Such a Hypocritical, Paranoid and Inconsistent reviewer
Also HE mentioned no Split Screen but makes no mention of the Perfect 60fps Halo 5 has
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> I can give plenty of reasons.
> Rants about delayed forge, doesn’t blink an eye at GTA 5 and MGS 5 having their entire multiplayer components missing.
> Complains about microtransactions and short campaign, says battlefield 3 and 4 are 8 or 9 material when they have terrible campaigns, intrusive microtransactions, and 50 dollar season passes, with a load bugs to go along with it.
> Is mediocre at multiplayer, complains that it’s the games fault in twitch streams.
> Tries to appeal to his fanbase over objectivity, and goes into certain games with certain attitudes.
> Gives game a 6/10, same score as Total War Rome 2, which he had nothing positive to say about, yet gave it that score for no reason.
> Unknowledgeable on lore, complains when he doesn’t understand because he didn’t play Halo 4.
> That’s just a few, want me to go on?
Are you freaking kidding me? You don’t compare scores to other games. Otherwise, EVERY major reviewer is at fault.
Plus:
-GTA V and MGS 5 are mainly robust single player games. Online is just a plus, and well worth the wait. He doesn’t even rant about forge (Which kind of shows you didn’t even watch the whole review. Possibly skimmed through it.)
-Again, this review is about Halo 5. Why the hell does it matter if he mentioned other games? He does mention that other microtransaction systems in other games are more intrusive.
-LOL WHAT? He NEVER says that. He says the opposite. PROOF you didn’t watch the whole review.
-You’re assumptions mean nothing. He reviews very fairly (most of the time), and goes into pretty much every game like any normal review.
-6/10 means slightly above average. Which a lot of people can agree with. If you don’t, then why bother? Go play your game.
-Again: LOL. That has nothing to do with the review.
It seems you’re biased because he speaks against it. Which is totally cool. But it’s not cool to be ignorant the way you’re being.
How many OP’s do we need for this tools review? There’s already been several.
He defo had a “i want to hate this game” attitude going into donig the halo 5 review. If you watched him on twitch you could totally tell he didnt want to play halo 5. He said during halo ODST that he was totally burnt out of halo and fps in general. I mean go look at the last fps games hes reviews on console he didnt like any of them lol.
And So because he went in with this i dont wanna do this attitude, anything that bugged him was magnified by 100x. Thats why half of that review is about req packs and split screen. I understand that he wasnt happy about split screen, but to go into the game and not even know it wasnt in the game? prity sure 343i said it wouldnt be in the game the start of the year. So he obvously done no reserch going into this game review, which as somone whos watched alot of joes reviews is a surprise, because he normaly does his background reserch. He was even asking on twitter about h5 while he was writing his review.
Eh, not a big fan of the guy. No splitscreen has been known for months and I’m fine with it considering that it was done due to hardware limitations and to keep the framerate at a steady 60 FPS, Campaign seemed fine to me, took me a little over 10 hours on Heroic to beat it. He went through on normal with a full coop team so I can see how he beat it in a 4.5 hours. I actually enjoyed the story and thought the ending was fine (this is the beginnings of a new saga so this is very much an opening act). I don’t agree with his analysis of the REQ system. It’s only used in the Warzone playlists and we’re getting free DLC because of it as well as part of it being put into the HCS prize pool. I actually prefer the REQ system over the usual level unlocks…something about opening packs is quite addicting. Anyway…is the game perfect…no. Biggest complaint right now is playlists and number of maps. The campaign gave me what I expected from a Halo campaign and the multiplayer is the best I’ve played in any Halo…and definitely up there when compared to any other game. If I have to give it a numerical score (1 - 10) then I’d give it a 9.
EDIT: This is after playing the game for 33 hours. Also…this is like the 5th post I’ve seen about this guys review.
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> > I can give plenty of reasons.
> > Rants about delayed forge, doesn’t blink an eye at GTA 5 and MGS 5 having their entire multiplayer components missing.
> > Complains about microtransactions and short campaign, says battlefield 3 and 4 are 8 or 9 material when they have terrible campaigns, intrusive microtransactions, and 50 dollar season passes, with a load bugs to go along with it.
> > Is mediocre at multiplayer, complains that it’s the games fault in twitch streams.
> > Tries to appeal to his fanbase over objectivity, and goes into certain games with certain attitudes.
> > Gives game a 6/10, same score as Total War Rome 2, which he had nothing positive to say about, yet gave it that score for no reason.
> > Unknowledgeable on lore, complains when he doesn’t understand because he didn’t play Halo 4.
> > That’s just a few, want me to go on?
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> Are you freaking kidding me? You don’t compare scores to other games. Otherwise, EVERY major reviewer is at fault.
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> Plus:
> -GTA V and MGS 5 are mainly robust single player games. Online is just a plus, and well worth the wait. He doesn’t even rant about forge (Which kind of shows you didn’t even watch the whole review. Possibly skimmed through it.)
> Perhaps he doesn’t rant about it, but he definitely factored this against it. Even so, forge is not as major as the other parts of the game, and even so neither of the before mentioned had functioning online components to justify the wait.
> -Again, this review is about Halo 5. Why the hell does it matter if he mentioned other games? He does mention that other microtransaction systems in other games are more intrusive.
> It does matter because he treats games differently based on his preference, all games should be treated the same, not just by how much Joe likes them. He didn’t even care all that much when Dragon Age had microtransactions, just because he preferred that game. I’m okay with that, but I would prefer objectivity with these reviews.
> -LOL WHAT? He NEVER says that. He says the opposite. PROOF you didn’t watch the whole review.
> I watched his twitch streams and constantly spewed this. He was smart enough not to put into the review, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t influence him.
> -You’re assumptions mean nothing. He reviews very fairly (most of the time), and goes into pretty much every game like any normal review.
> Maybe they don’t, but it’s obvious he gives preference to certain games over others. Throughout all his twitch streams not once did he actually show even a little excitement. Go to any game he likes like Witcher or Skyrim, he is far more enthusiastic.
> -6/10 means slightly above average. Which a lot of people can agree with. If you don’t, then why bother? Go play your game.
> I don’t know if you remember what condition Total War Rome 2 launched in, but it was non-functional, Joe’s review devolves into one big rant, and at the end he gives it a 6 despite the fact he had no positive remarks about it. You may say that you can’t compare them, but the disparity between the two games objectively is massive, only for the same score; that doesn’t sit well with me, but oh well, games journalism is dead to me anyways.
> -Again: LOL. That has nothing to do with the review.
> **Just because he doesn’t mention it directly, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor, he tweeted that he didn’t understand anything that was going on, so I’d assume that was used against it.**It seems you’re biased because he speaks against it. Which is totally cool. But it’s not cool to be ignorant the way you’re being.
> Perhaps I am. I usually held Joe to a higher regard, but I can’t defend him on this one. During his twitch streams, he seemed to want to cater to his fanbase over being fair. Saying things like the Halo community is rabid, or that Halo is dying. Either way, I disagree with him as I am allowed my opinion as he is his own.
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> > Are you freaking kidding me? You don’t compare scores to other games. Otherwise, EVERY major reviewer is at fault.
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> > Plus:
> > -GTA V and MGS 5 are mainly robust single player games. Online is just a plus, and well worth the wait. He doesn’t even rant about forge (Which kind of shows you didn’t even watch the whole review. Possibly skimmed through it.)
> > Perhaps he doesn’t rant about it, but he definitely factored this against it. Even so, forge is not as major as the other parts of the game, and even so neither of the before mentioned had functioning online components to justify the wait.
> > -Again, this review is about Halo 5. Why the hell does it matter if he mentioned other games? He does mention that other microtransaction systems in other games are more intrusive.
> > It does matter because he treats games differently based on his preference, all games should be treated the same, not just by how much Joe likes them. He didn’t even care all that much when Dragon Age had microtransactions, just because he preferred that game. I’m okay with that, but I would prefer objectivity with these reviews.
> > -LOL WHAT? He NEVER says that. He says the opposite. PROOF you didn’t watch the whole review.
> > I watched his twitch streams and constantly spewed this. He was smart enough not to put into the review, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t influence him.
> > -You’re assumptions mean nothing. He reviews very fairly (most of the time), and goes into pretty much every game like any normal review.
> > Maybe they don’t, but it’s obvious he gives preference to certain games over others. Throughout all his twitch streams not once did he actually show even a little excitement. Go to any game he likes like Witcher or Skyrim, he is far more enthusiastic.
> > -6/10 means slightly above average. Which a lot of people can agree with. If you don’t, then why bother? Go play your game.
> > I don’t know if you remember what condition Total War Rome 2 launched in, but it was non-functional, Joe’s review devolves into one big rant, and at the end he gives it a 6 despite the fact he had no positive remarks about it. You may say that you can’t compare them, but the disparity between the two games objectively is massive, only for the same score; that doesn’t sit well with me, but oh well, games journalism is dead to me anyways.
> > -Again: LOL. That has nothing to do with the review.
> > **Just because he doesn’t mention it directly, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor, he tweeted that he didn’t understand anything that was going on, so I’d assume that was used against it.**It seems you’re biased because he speaks against it. Which is totally cool. But it’s not cool to be ignorant the way you’re being.
> > Perhaps I am. I usually held Joe to a higher regard, but I can’t defend him on this one. During his twitch streams, he seemed to want to cater to his fanbase over being fair. Saying things like the Halo community is rabid, or that Halo is dying. Either way, I disagree with him as I am allowed my opinion as he is his own.
I’m going to have to just have to take your word on it. Didn’t watch Joe’s streams.
But even then, that’s kind of the point. That’s kind of just proof he didn’t really enjoy Halo 5. The review is an assessment to how good of a game it is to him, and he points out everything a consumer would want to know about the game.
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> > > Are you freaking kidding me? You don’t compare scores to other games. Otherwise, EVERY major reviewer is at fault.
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> > > -GTA V and MGS 5 are mainly robust single player games. Online is just a plus, and well worth the wait. He doesn’t even rant about forge (Which kind of shows you didn’t even watch the whole review. Possibly skimmed through it.)
> > > Perhaps he doesn’t rant about it, but he definitely factored this against it. Even so, forge is not as major as the other parts of the game, and even so neither of the before mentioned had functioning online components to justify the wait.
> > > -Again, this review is about Halo 5. Why the hell does it matter if he mentioned other games? He does mention that other microtransaction systems in other games are more intrusive.
> > > It does matter because he treats games differently based on his preference, all games should be treated the same, not just by how much Joe likes them. He didn’t even care all that much when Dragon Age had microtransactions, just because he preferred that game. I’m okay with that, but I would prefer objectivity with these reviews.
> > > -LOL WHAT? He NEVER says that. He says the opposite. PROOF you didn’t watch the whole review.
> > > I watched his twitch streams and constantly spewed this. He was smart enough not to put into the review, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t influence him.
> > > -You’re assumptions mean nothing. He reviews very fairly (most of the time), and goes into pretty much every game like any normal review.
> > > Maybe they don’t, but it’s obvious he gives preference to certain games over others. Throughout all his twitch streams not once did he actually show even a little excitement. Go to any game he likes like Witcher or Skyrim, he is far more enthusiastic.
> > > -6/10 means slightly above average. Which a lot of people can agree with. If you don’t, then why bother? Go play your game.
> > > I don’t know if you remember what condition Total War Rome 2 launched in, but it was non-functional, Joe’s review devolves into one big rant, and at the end he gives it a 6 despite the fact he had no positive remarks about it. You may say that you can’t compare them, but the disparity between the two games objectively is massive, only for the same score; that doesn’t sit well with me, but oh well, games journalism is dead to me anyways.
> > > -Again: LOL. That has nothing to do with the review.
> > > **Just because he doesn’t mention it directly, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a factor, he tweeted that he didn’t understand anything that was going on, so I’d assume that was used against it.**It seems you’re biased because he speaks against it. Which is totally cool. But it’s not cool to be ignorant the way you’re being.
> > > Perhaps I am. I usually held Joe to a higher regard, but I can’t defend him on this one. During his twitch streams, he seemed to want to cater to his fanbase over being fair. Saying things like the Halo community is rabid, or that Halo is dying. Either way, I disagree with him as I am allowed my opinion as he is his own.
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> But even then, that’s kind of the point. That’s kind of just proof he didn’t really enjoy Halo 5. The review is an assessment to how good of a game it is to him, and he points out everything a consumer would want to know about the game.
I don’t mind him having his opinion, but he really doesn’t need to be reviewing games that he goes into without any interest. He already stated he was “haloed out” after Halo 3, so kinda evident that his bias may or may not have gotten in the way of objectivity here. I don’t know what I’m more annoyed about, Joe reviewing a game he’s actively not interested in, or the legions of people in the comment section taking his opinion as fact. Whatever, it doesn’t really matter in the end.
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> > I can give plenty of reasons.
> > Rants about delayed forge, doesn’t blink an eye at GTA 5 and MGS 5 having their entire multiplayer components missing.
> > Complains about microtransactions and short campaign, says battlefield 3 and 4 are 8 or 9 material when they have terrible campaigns, intrusive microtransactions, and 50 dollar season passes, with a load bugs to go along with it.
> > Is mediocre at multiplayer, complains that it’s the games fault in twitch streams.
> > Tries to appeal to his fanbase over objectivity, and goes into certain games with certain attitudes.
> > Gives game a 6/10, same score as Total War Rome 2, which he had nothing positive to say about, yet gave it that score for no reason.
> > Unknowledgeable on lore, complains when he doesn’t understand because he didn’t play Halo 4.
> > That’s just a few, want me to go on?
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> Are you freaking kidding me? You don’t compare scores to other games. Otherwise, EVERY major reviewer is at fault.
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> Plus:
> -GTA V and MGS 5 are mainly robust single player games. Online is just a plus, and well worth the wait. He doesn’t even rant about forge (Which kind of shows you didn’t even watch the whole review. Possibly skimmed through it.)
> -Again, this review is about Halo 5. Why the hell does it matter if he mentioned other games? He does mention that other microtransaction systems in other games are more intrusive.
> -LOL WHAT? He NEVER says that. He says the opposite. PROOF you didn’t watch the whole review.
> -You’re assumptions mean nothing. He reviews very fairly (most of the time), and goes into pretty much every game like any normal review.
> -6/10 means slightly above average. Which a lot of people can agree with. If you don’t, then why bother? Go play your game.
> -Again: LOL. That has nothing to do with the review.
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> It seems you’re biased because he speaks against it. Which is totally cool. But it’s not cool to be ignorant the way you’re being.
I like Angry Joe but that last comment is just silly.
Rewinding - yes, he does “mention” that micro transactions in other games are more intrusive but in those games own reviews those transactions don’t heavily impact the final score to a serious degree - and they should, Battlefields micro transaction system is extremely intrusive and to boot the newly released premium weapons are always initially deliberately very OP just to entice people to buy them before patching them and making them balanced. Heavily impacts on gameplay and is just poor form.
Furthermore, saying GTA V is primarily a singleplayer game with multiplayer being well worth the wait is highly debatable. Multiplayer was an extremely well advertised and highly anticipated function of the game and is extremely popular, and after an even longer than anticipated wait they left out key features that were the focus of their initial advertisements - such as Heists, which wasn’t released for well over a year as it turned out, and turned out to be very buggy and very short even after over a year of delay. Add to all this the act that the multiplayer itself was broken for a lot of people on release for weeks, and the game itself was buggy due to the game being forced on consoles it clearly wasn’t initially intended for so that they could claim it wouldn’t be released on next Geb, spike up the sales and the release it on next gen consoles where people bought it all over again hoping it’d be more than a graphical improvement.
Not it to mention ANOTHER larger than stated delay for the PC release, plus false advertising, ontop of micro transactions. All of these things are aspects that would under normal circumstances for another game draw Joes critical eye, which he turned blind.
Going back to my original comment - it’s funny because Joe is clearly not a reliable source of opinion when it comes to the game. He does not have a grasp of the story and so cannot comment on that aspect of the campaign having not done Halo4. He blitzed the campaign with a full team on normal mode so he cannot accurately speak to the time it’ll take to complete or the difficulty - especially if you’re a solo player.
Add to that the fact that Joe is a casual gamer who flits between games to boot due to his job. He’s absolutely awful at the multiplayer judging by his streams and never got a decent grasp of the controls even, so obviously his opinion on the multiplayer - the primary draw of the game - would be not only slanted (multiplayer games are never as fun when you suck) but would not apply to your typical long standing halo fan who would at the very least (hopefully) be decent at the game, and likely have friends who are good to play with.