I read a lot of comments regarding the grapple hook in Halo Infinite.
Eventhough I was not a fan of such a feature in a first place, I must say it can bring some new dynamics in gameplay…
However, the hook itself doesnt make very much sense considering the Halo universe and its 1 ton spartans’ armors, (how the heck can you attach yourself to a flying grunt and join him in the air???)
so I was thinking:
the grapple hook physics (related to Spartans’ armors weight) would make sense if they implanted an armor propulsion burst (with the noise of an explosion propulsion burst -Ironman style) when using the hook
Halo 5 armors had such a feature (spartan charge, sprinting with propulsion and air smash)
Adding a synchronised “burst sound” would make a lot more sense to me… (but there would be a need for a cooling/recovering time though to make even more sense)
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> Hi
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> I read a lot of comments regarding the grapple hook in Halo Infinite.
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> Eventhough I was not a fan of such a feature in a first place, I must say it can bring some new dynamics in gameplay…
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> However, the hook itself doesnt make very much sense considering the Halo universe and its 1 ton spartans’ armors, (how the heck can you attach yourself to a flying grunt and join him in the air???)
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> so I was thinking:
> the grapple hook physics (related to Spartans’ armors weight) would make sense if they implanted an armor propulsion burst (with the noise of an explosion propulsion burst -Ironman style) when using the hook
> Halo 5 armors had such a feature (spartan charge, sprinting with propulsion and air smash)
> Adding a synchronised “burst sound” would make a lot more sense to me… (but there would be a need for a cooling/recovering time though to make even more sense)
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> Does anyone agree with me?
Well, talking bout the lore of halo, spartans wouldn’t need a hook to get that high as we saw it in demo, but if we take the lore too serious there will be no gameplay, just kiling everyone with a single hit and seeing things in slow motion, you know how to get the lore and gameplay with your idea, as i read the spartan’s armor weighs half a ton and i really don’t think that hook can endure that, i mean is not even with the armor, it seems like an added.
Yeah Lore and Gameplay always have to be balanced, but I get what the OP is saying. Grappling to bridges/areas I get, bringing items to you, I get. But grappling to a flying grunt that one pushes the limits a little.
yeah this makes sense to me, just a little thruster visual and sound effect would give the grapple hooks way more credibility when it comes to practical sense. wouldn’t even have to add the cool down because I think the grapple hook already has a cool down timer for the sake of gameplay but I could be wrong.
Posted this in another thread about the hook, but I think it should have been a forerunner based hardlight/energy tether, or our new pilot buddy should have pulled a winch off a Hog, and attached it to the arm/shoulder of the Chief. I like the winch idea better, but I agree, the hook should have had some more work done on how it works and the game physics. The thrusters would work, if 343 had replaced sprint with a thruster like ability, but it seems like they scrapped the thruster idea.
Think of Chuck Norris in year 2500+ with Spartan Armor, Would he use a grapple hook then, No who would need a grapple hook in year 2500+, Not no but heck no… Chuck Norris / Master Chief would boost high as i could and jab his fingers into that cliff and hold on and shoot enemies and boost again to get high and jab fingers in the cliff again and i really hated the Doom Eternal grapple hook pull toward enemy thing it looked so cheesy for HALO.
I felt its kinda lame to be honest.
-Wall running with booster holding Chief against the wall, I can see.
New Clothes-line move with boosting. I could see.
Maybe some type of gravity gun to pull explosive fusion container / coil to throw at enemies. I can see. (it is year 2500+)
Dual Welding more then any other halo, I could see because this is a there super soldiers the Spartans, Lets dual weld AR, BR’s, Jackal Shield, Swords, Saw, LMG, and all the other common dual welding guns that you can use as a combo of 2 different types of weapons or shield in your hands. THAT I CAN SEE ON HALO.
Grapple Hook, WRONG ANSWER
Best forge ever with everything we seen in past halo games even Halo Wars and with most of the vehicles form past games drive-able. I COULD SEE!
All the weapons in forge from past halo games, I COULD SEE!
Grapple Hooks, JUST NOOO!
A Side of the arm Plasma Blade for melee. I could see.
Real place-able water and other liquid volumes in Forge, I COULD SEE!
And finally I could not fit it in anywhere, Because it feels wrong a Grapple Hook.
Why did they think it was good idea in first place? I know why Master Chief as officially hit OLD MAN STATUS that is Master Chief’s Walking Stick, Its a Grapple Hook. ^-^, But Master Chief’s personality would be like this: I don’t need a child’s toy on my arm this out dated technology! Just let me finish the fight!
This is not Doom Eternal. This is Halo and Master Chief and he is a big boy and he don’t need that out dated stuff.
While yes the grapple shot doesn’t make sense in universe, if all gameplay aspects were tailored to make logical sense then how can a Falcon carry 6 Spartans? Or why did the Arbiter have energy shields? How come the Spirit of Fire seemingly has an unlimited supply of Soldiers, Vehicles, Aircraft, etc. In my opinion, if it works for gameplay, then it can break some rules.
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> While yes the grapple shot doesn’t make sense in universe, if all gameplay aspects were tailored to make logical sense then how can a Falcon carry 6 Spartans? Or why did the Arbiter have energy shields? How come the Spirit of Fire seemingly has an unlimited supply of Soldiers, Vehicles, Aircraft, etc. In my opinion, if it works for gameplay, then it can break some rules.
Pretty much exactly this. At the end of the day, it’s a video game.
If we want to get down into the real nitty gritty, we can talk about how Cairo Station should have been a zero-gee combat mission since we were orbiting Earth. Or the fact that whenever a ship is under thrust, the thrust gravity would affect your ability to walk upright since the inertia would be pulling you toward the rear of the ship. Or we can discuss the fact that space combat would likely take place over hundreds of kilometers and the battle over Earth wouldn’t have looked as cluttered and jumbled as we saw in the cut scene after Cairo Station.
It’s just best to accept that not everything will follow strict science in a science fiction universe.
While perfect logic isn’t required, there needs to be some contextual behavior associated with the grapple shot. 343 mentioned that Chief will fly towards a grappled Grunt in the air, which doesn’t seem to make sense from both a logic and gameplay perspective. I think it would be much more interesting if smaller items flew toward Chief and larger items pulled him closer.
But yeah since grapple hook is going to stay in the game at this point yes thruster boast with it is needed because he is a big heavy spartan and it just looks like buzz light year bouncing around like a toy the way it is.
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> While yes the grapple shot doesn’t make sense in universe, if all gameplay aspects were tailored to make logical sense then how can a Falcon carry 6 Spartans? Or why did the Arbiter have energy shields? How come the Spirit of Fire seemingly has an unlimited supply of Soldiers, Vehicles, Aircraft, etc. In my opinion, if it works for gameplay, then it can break some rules.
Haha i thought i was the only one who has noticed that fact about the Spirit of Fire in Halo Wars games.
But i think the arbiter have energy shields for the same reason that the spartans have one too, from the Mark V the UNSC implent the energy shield on Spartans and if the UNSC could do that the Covenant could do the same thing in that old but representative armor for the arbiter.
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> > While yes the grapple shot doesn’t make sense in universe, if all gameplay aspects were tailored to make logical sense then how can a Falcon carry 6 Spartans? Or why did the Arbiter have energy shields? How come the Spirit of Fire seemingly has an unlimited supply of Soldiers, Vehicles, Aircraft, etc. In my opinion, if it works for gameplay, then it can break some rules.
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> Haha i thought i was the only one who has noticed that fact about the Spirit of Fire in Halo Wars games.
> But i think the arbiter have energy shields for the same reason that the spartans have one too, from the Mark V the UNSC implent the energy shield on Spartans and if the UNSC could do that the Covenant could do the same thing in that old but representative armor for the arbiter.
While it wouldn’t be impossible for the Arbiter’s armor to have shields, in lore it has been confirmed not too.