Good Connection Searching In Halo 5 VOTE NOW!

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> > > Why on earth would anyone say NO to having more options in MM.
> > > You wouldn’t have to use it unless you wanted to
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> > BECAUSE THE XBOX ONE HAS BUILT IN SEARCH PREFERENCES FOR EVERY GAME WITH MATCHMAKING. 343 DOES NOT NEED TO CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM.
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> Well both Reach and Halo 4 were supposed to do the same thing.
> And look how that ended.
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> Just because they made a system to work does not mean it will work.
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> But i trust you and im holding you to this …
> Hopefully it works great and we wont need options like that anymore.

Hmm lets see how little 3mb of data transfer the 360 has compared to what the xbox one has got? The xbox one will be able to cope with it. The 360 is out of date and both Reach and Halo 4 came out near the end of its life cycle.

It will more than likely work, if its still bad then get a good connection because all the people who Ive played with on server games from the sam region, who have complained about lag are those with bad internet connection.

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> BECAUSE THE XBOX ONE HAS BUILT IN SEARCH PREFERENCES FOR EVERY GAME WITH MATCHMAKING. 343 DOES NOT NEED TO CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM.

LOL!

So let me get this straight. You’re saying the very same Microsoft who started and own 343 (who mucked up Halo 4’s connection search, networking and matchmaking) are designing a Xbox controlled connection search system?

Oh thats much more comforting to know.

So Microsoft has put their best (not saying much) to work making sure the connection search criteria (controlled by the console not the individual developers with varying levels of net code expertise) works to a “high standard”? This could wind up being the biggest screw up in matchmaking history! Not content with having a lame / broken search algorithm in (Microsoft owned and controlled) Halo 4 they’re taking on the entire XBL matchmaking responsibility? So potentially every title on XBL would be affected if MS search runs like the dud Halo 4 search?

Why doesn’t this inspire confidence in me?

Can anyone else see a looming disaster which could dwarf the muck up that was Halo 4 matchmaking? I truly hope MS get it right because making the console itself responsible for carrying out search via “smart match” is a massive task. Its one thing to have actively wrecked a AAA game franchise but ending the life of an entire console - surely MS couldn’t screw up that bad?

Going to start praying… bye

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Absolutely. Lag was the reason why the Aus/NZ population pretty much died off a few weeks after launch.

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bionic khajit, do you ever say anything of merit or is it just a hobby posting generic statements?

“I’m going to debate on an issue that has never affected me because i know whats right”. your points are false. you say auto search should work so no reason to add a filter.

in reach if i put on GC filter (i’m a new zealander)then it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to find anyone outside NZ/AUS (unless someone from nz/aus is searching with someone foreign). i could happily search btb, snipes, slayer, doubles, mlg, swat + others no problem (i’ve played 9000 MM games of halo reach btw, large portion in h2 and h3 aswell).

in halo 4 i was in games with a LOCAL HOST (NZ or AUS) for less than 1/5 of my games. on 360 auto search hasn’t worked. as other people who actually possess common sense in this thread (funzbob, gr8 colossus etc) we do not know the effectiveness of the implementations that Microsoft will be doing for the X1, so lets not treat a companies statements on what they’re WANTING TO DO as fact.

i swear these posts about getting offended, because someone stated that this is an international website. and that the flaws the dedicated servers will have is poor connection, implying NZ/AUS connection is poor (when the major city centres have net ranging from 75-90% higher than the us or uk). are posts that are either bordering on trolling or ramblings of people who aren’t quite clued up.

after viewing these forums for a long time, the main things that people who are pro H4 want are: customization and “to play the game your way” yet whenever theres a vote for a toggle, the answer always comes up no. well done guys, well done.

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The fact that Halo 5 will have 100% dedicated servers is a great source of hope for me.

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> bionic khajit, do you ever say anything of merit or is it just a hobby posting generic statements?
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> “I’m going to debate on an issue that has never affected me because i know whats right”. your points are false. you say auto search should work so no reason to add a filter.
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> in reach if i put on GC filter (i’m a new zealander)then it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to find anyone outside NZ/AUS (unless someone from nz/aus is searching with someone foreign). i could happily search btb, snipes, slayer, doubles, mlg, swat + others no problem (i’ve played 9000 MM games of halo reach btw, large portion in h2 and h3 aswell).
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> in halo 4 i was in games with a LOCAL HOST (NZ or AUS) for less than 1/5 of my games. on 360 auto search hasn’t worked. as other people who actually possess common sense in this thread (funzbob, gr8 colossus etc) we do not know the effectiveness of the implementations that Microsoft will be doing for the X1, so lets not treat a companies statements on what they’re WANTING TO DO as fact.
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> i swear these posts about getting offended, because someone stated that this is an international website. and that the flaws the dedicated servers will have is poor connection, implying NZ/AUS connection is poor (when the major city centres have net ranging from 75-90% higher than the us or uk). are posts that are either bordering on trolling or ramblings of people who aren’t quite clued up.
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> after viewing these forums for a long time, the main things that people who are pro H4 want are: customization and “to play the game your way” yet whenever theres a vote for a toggle, the answer always comes up no. well done guys, well done.

Wow you are insulting me. Really? One I KNOW that the AUS/NZ severs we bad to start of with and with their distance to other main hubs such as the US or the UK ,so finding good game from there is unlikely. Hence why you want a good connection filter. But it would make no difference since all the good games would have to come in your region which has less players in it due to the bad connection. So having it would have NO effect. But with the XB1 halo can have dedicated servers which the player can easily connect to with a decent connection. This would bring people back to the game.

What your asking for is a regional search which already happens, but due to the lack of people from your region playing the game is forced to find games elsewhere in the world resulting in bad connection games. Having a search filter whilst this is apparent would make so little difference it would be a waste of time, then people would complain about wait times. With the XB1 having dedicated servers for halo, you can connect to the servers resulting in an overall decent connection which will draw people back into the hame from your region, making the region search thrive again.

You are asking for a REGIONAL search, not a good connection search based of your reasonings. With the dedicated servers the problem would be less apparent where as if there was none. It would make no difference since the game has the filter on AUTOMATICALLY.

Just because Im not experiencing it doesnt mean I know what the problem is. It wouldnt make much of a difference if they added a filter in.

You say that people like customisation on these forums but shin it…? This is true for when its unneeded, not beneficial and most of those posts are about in game customisation which is different and irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Ive been trying to help you by explaining why it wouldnt work, but you refuse to listen and thus insult me for no reason because I made a slight joke of necro-posting at halloween which was a friendly and humorous remake, it wasnt trolling which I dont do on these forums. So instead of insulting people, listen to them.

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> Ive been trying to help you by explaining why it wouldnt work, but you refuse to listen and thus insult me for no reason

you don’t seem to understand you’re not listening

> One I KNOW that the AUS/NZ severs we bad to start of with and with their distance to other main hubs such as the US or the UK ,so finding good game from there is unlikely. Hence why you want a good connection filter.But it would make no difference since all the good games would have to come in your region which has less players in it due to the bad connection

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look at your words

> But it would make no difference since all the good games would have to come in your region which has less players in it due to the bad connection

either you’re implying that 1. nz/aus has bad connection, therefore less players OR 2. nz/aus has a bad connection to other regions, therefore less players

IF your answer is 1. then read this part of my post

> that the flaws the dedicated servers will have is poor connection, implying NZ/AUS connection is poor (when the major city centres have net ranging from 75-90% higher than the us or uk)

IF your answer is 2. then read this part of my post

> in reach if i put on GC filter (i’m a new zealander)then it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to find anyone outside NZ/AUS (unless someone from nz/aus is searching with someone foreign)i could happily search btb, snipes, slayer, doubles, mlg, swat + others no problem (i’ve played 9000 MM games of halo reach btw)

when there is a REGIONAL FILTER, the filter that REACH WAS, you know the one that was called GOOD CONNECTION, the availability of games is still high. BUT CLEARLY FROM YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS YOU DIDN’T KNOW THAT. hence why i said this

> “I’m going to debate on an issue that has never affected me because i know whats right”

IT’S NOT RUDE IF I’M MAKING A CORRECT OBSERVATION.

> But with the XB1 halo can have dedicated servers which the player can easily connect to with a decent connection. This would bring people back to the game.

HOW and WHY? if you’re not answering the how and why of your statements then you’re not

> explaining why it wouldnt work

> What your asking for is a regional search which already happens, but due to the lack of people from your region playing the game is forced to find games elsewhere in the world resulting in bad connection games

NOPE, see above for your answer to “the lack of people from your region” tl;dr it was that i’ve played 9000 reach games, btw 7000 were local.

as for REGIONAL SEARCH ALREADY HAPPENS

> in halo 4 i was in games with a LOCAL HOST (NZ or AUS) for less than 1/5 of my games

and if you’re response is THAT’S BECAUSE NO-ONE IN YOUR REGION PLAYS, then i’ll happily retort that 7000 of 9000 REACH games were LOCAL.

> Having a search filter whilst this is apparent would make so little difference it would be a waste of time, then people would complain about wait times

making bold statements ASSUMING you’re CORRECT

> With the XB1 having dedicated servers for halo, you can connect to the servers resulting in an overall decent connection which will draw people back into the hame from your region, making the region search thrive again

yet again no HOW and WHY, just you’re uninformed conclusions on what you THINK would happen.

> You are asking for a REGIONAL search, not a good connection search based of your reasonings

to an international audience THATS THE SAME THING.

> With the dedicated servers the problem would be less apparent where as if there was none

you’ve clearly NEVER played on a dedicated server, and if you have then definitely not one that is away from your location.

> It would make no difference since the game has the filter on AUTOMATICALLY

see above. just further ASSUMING you’re CORRECT…AKA that’s considered RUDE for most western countries, when talking about HYPOTHESIS, as it is just ignorance.

> Just because Im not experiencing it doesnt mean I know what the problem is. It wouldnt make much of a difference if they added a filter in

SEE REASONS ABOVE, also STILL ASSUMING you’re CORRECT

> but you refuse to listen and thus insult me for no reason

Nope this post shows that YOU are the one NOT LISTENING.

> So instead of insulting people, listen to them

i’ll rephrase this for you to take in.

instead of BRUSHING past peoples OPINIONS and KNOWLEDGE, LISTEN TO THEM.
for then you’ll realise that you haven’t EXPLAINED REASONS just posted your OPINIONS which are UNINFORMED in this matter at hand

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> > Ive been trying to help you by explaining why it wouldnt work, but you refuse to listen and thus insult me for no reason
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> you don’t seem to understand you’re not listening
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> > One I KNOW that the AUS/NZ severs we bad to start of with and with their distance to other main hubs such as the US or the UK ,so finding good game from there is unlikely. Hence why you want a good connection filter.But it would make no difference since all the good games would have to come in your region which has less players in it due to the bad connection
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> > But it would make no difference since all the good games would have to come in your region which has less players in it due to the bad connection
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> either you’re implying that 1. nz/aus has bad connection, therefore less players OR 2. nz/aus has a bad connection to other regions, therefore less players
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> IF your answer is 1. then read this part of my post
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> > that the flaws the dedicated servers will have is poor connection, implying NZ/AUS connection is poor (when the major city centres have net ranging from 75-90% higher than the us or uk)
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> IF your answer is 2. then read this part of my post
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> > in reach if i put on GC filter (i’m a new zealander)then it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to find anyone outside NZ/AUS (unless someone from nz/aus is searching with someone foreign)i could happily search btb, snipes, slayer, doubles, mlg, swat + others no problem (i’ve played 9000 MM games of halo reach btw)
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> when there is a REGIONAL FILTER, the filter that REACH WAS, you know the one that was called GOOD CONNECTION, the availability of games is still high. BUT CLEARLY FROM YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS YOU DIDN’T KNOW THAT. hence why i said this
> Yeah searching for good connection and regional search is two separate things. It was even in reach. (There was local then below it was good connection) You are MORE likely to find a good connection game in your local region but you can find one that is not in your local region. Which is my point that you want a local region filter not a good connection filter.
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> > “I’m going to debate on an issue that has never affected me because i know whats right”
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> IT’S NOT RUDE IF I’M MAKING A CORRECT OBSERVATION. Not really, if your claiming Im being a big person assuming Im right, are you not doing the same thing with this quote.
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> > But with the XB1 halo can have dedicated servers which the player can easily connect to with a decent connection. This would bring people back to the game.
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> HOW and WHY? if you’re not answering the how and why of your statements then you’re not
> The players dont have to connect overly large distances to servers as much as in host-player which is what halo 4 runs off. With the servers players dont all have to connect to multiple regions but instead connect to the server which will be more stable.
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> > What your asking for is a regional search which already happens, but due to the lack of people from your region playing the game is forced to find games elsewhere in the world resulting in bad connection games
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> NOPE, see above for your answer to “the lack of people from your region” tl;dr it was that i’ve played 9000 reach games, btw 7000 were local.
> Yes in reach, are we not on about halo 4 which had worse net coding than reach. In halo 4 a significant amount of people gave up due to bad connection.
> as for REGIONAL SEARCH ALREADY HAPPENS
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> > in halo 4 i was in games with a LOCAL HOST (NZ or AUS) for less than 1/5 of my games
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> and if you’re response is THAT’S BECAUSE NO-ONE IN YOUR REGION PLAYS, then i’ll happily retort that 7000 of 9000 REACH games were LOCAL.
> The game attempts to find a game with local people, but instead of wasting hours to find one game which makes the MAJORITY of players annoyed it finds games elsewhere. However it prioritises local games.
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> > Having a search filter whilst this is apparent would make so little difference it would be a waste of time, then people would complain about wait times
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> making bold statements ASSUMING you’re CORRECT
> But Ive just explained that having a search filter on a server based game would have little impact since the servers wont always be on the same country as those who are using said server.
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> > With the XB1 having dedicated servers for halo, you can connect to the servers resulting in an overall decent connection which will draw people back into the hame from your region, making the region search thrive again
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> yet again no HOW and WHY, just you’re uninformed conclusions on what you THINK would happen.
> Yes this isnt a definite conclusion, but its based of the fact that many people from your region quit halo 4 after nit having a good connection amongst other things, so a good connection could bring them back. Its not certain but its very likely hence why I assume it would happen.
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> > You are asking for a REGIONAL search, not a good connection search based of your reasonings
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> to an international audience THATS THE SAME THING.
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> > With the dedicated servers the problem would be less apparent where as if there was none
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> you’ve clearly NEVER played on a dedicated server, and if you have then definitely not one that is away from your location. Actually I have since I live in the UK and most servers are based in the US. True its nit as far a distance but still if there was a filter on good connection and due to the servers being miles away from your region wouldnt most the games be bad connection, and this would make the filter useless.
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> > It would make no difference since the game has the filter on AUTOMATICALLY
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> see above. just further ASSUMING you’re CORRECT…AKA that’s considered RUDE for most western countries, when talking about HYPOTHESIS, as it is just ignorance. the reason it wouldnt make a difference is because if its already on ,doesnt that mean that that having it as optional wouldnt do anything other than make it optional. Oh wait it does thus it would have no difference.
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> SEE REASONS ABOVE, also STILL ASSUMING you’re CORRECT
> Right people at game companies understand that there is problems even when not experiencing them themselves, this allows them to fix them. Just because I havnt experienced it doesnt mean I dont understand it. The reason Im going with what Im saying is because what I have said negates what you said. If anything insulting me for supporting my opinion, isnt that exactly what your doing.
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> > but you refuse to listen and thus insult me for no reason
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> Nope this post shows that YOU are the one NOT LISTENING.
> Really considering Ive just negated your point
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> > So instead of insulting people, listen to them
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> instead of BRUSHING past peoples OPINIONS and KNOWLEDGE, LISTEN TO THEM.
> for then you’ll realise that you haven’t EXPLAINED REASONS just posted your OPINIONS which are UNINFORMED in this matter at hand

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@TCD I am taking notice of others hence why Im using your points and counter arguing them by giving examples. If anything arent you not listening to what Im saying.

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@BioticKhajiit

I find it funny that he managed to get your name wrong… anyhow now to the actual discussion

Like others have said, all because it works doesn’t mean it will be great. If they were to place dedicated servers in every country sporting XbL then this problem would be significantly less of an issue.
Seeing as how hosts would no longer be a person’s Xbox, this would affect the over-all connection from launch to its end. Simply put, if you have a bad connection to the servers, you will NEVER enjoy MM. This therefore inclines me to believe that getting at least a few servers in every Xbl supported countries would be best. I’m not even going to start with your past Halo discussions!

@TCD

He’s not assuming that his opinions are correct, heck if anyone is doing so you have written it all over your comments!

JUST END BOTH OF YOUR ARGUMENTS OKAY!

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> @BioticKhajiit
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> I find it funny that he managed to get your name wrong… anyhow now to the actual discussion
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> Like others have said, all because it works doesn’t mean it will be great. If they were to place dedicated servers in every country sporting XbL then this problem would be significantly less of an issue.
> Seeing as how hosts would no longer be a person’s Xbox, this would affect the over-all connection from launch to its end. Simply put, if you have a bad connection to the servers, you will NEVER enjoy MM. This therefore inclines me to believe that getting at least a few servers in every Xbl supported countries would be best. I’m not even going to start with your past Halo discussions!
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> @TCD
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> He’s not assuming that his opinions are correct, heck if anyone is doing so you have written it all over your comments!
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> JUST END BOTH OF YOUR ARGUMENTS OKAY!

Okay okay. At least you got what I meant.

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> Absolutely. Lag was the reason why the Aus/NZ population pretty much died off a few weeks after launch.

Im from Aus, and most my mates still play REACH just because of the better connections and other issues with Halo 4.

HR Search Features and UI were the best things about it compared to Halo 3.

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> > Absolutely. Lag was the reason why the Aus/NZ population pretty much died off a few weeks after launch.
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> Im from Aus, and most my mates still play REACH just because of the better connections and other issues with Halo 4.
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> HR Search Features and UI were the best things about it compared to Halo 3.

Everything you said above is the exact reason I think more people are looking forward to Bungie’s Destiny than 343’s Halo 5. Destiny (in addition to the damage already done by COD and BF3 & 4) will kill off much Halo 5’s potential online player base. Of course the pseudo-COD like gameplay of Halo 4 made it even easier for players to switch off as Halo had removed its gameplay point of difference in an effort to cater to a crowd who were NEVER going to be loyal to a Halo title.

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Add choice Server Location option menu

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I don’t know what or how 343 /Microsoft can fix it but the connection we get in Scandinavia and UK is terrible. Constantly getting shot through walls, around corners, shots not registered and so on… its so bad that I’ve given up and deleted the game in frustration for good this time. I really enjoy how the game plays, but online gameplay is so bad that it’s beyond tolerable and loosing to connection is so fu#@$ing annoying. Good Bye Halo Infinite.

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2014 is a bit out of date