Good Connection Searching needs to be in Halo 5
Like all of my long time Australian Halo fans I’ve given up on Halo 4. Halo 3 and Halo Reach had the ability to search for local/good connection games and they provided years of smooth lag free gameplay. But just days after Halo 4 launched the game was too laggy to play with any sense of competition in mind. Slowly but surely the Aussie population dropped like flies and after months I don’t know anyone who plays Halo anymore. I’m sure it’s the same for other non-American companies.
When I was watching E3 and I saw the Master Chief’s hood blow back, revealing his helmet it was the first time I’d actually felt sadness at a new Halo trailer. I used to be psyched about new Halo trailers and I’d watch them over and over, boiling with anticipation. Not anymore. Our beloved pastime is absolutely and completely broken and hamstrung.
So please, let’s make another mega thread and let 343 Industries know what we want. If we let them know now there’s hope that Halo 5 can once again be the premiere shooter for people outside of America.
Please vote in the poll, bump this thread, and send a clear message to 343.
PS. Before you say ‘dedicated servers y’all’ the answer is no, those do not solve the problem. Try playing GOW3 or with dedicated servers, it’s just as bad.
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> Dedicated Servers. K.
UK playing AU on dedicated servers still isn’t a pleasant experience.
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> UK playing AU on dedicated servers still isn’t a pleasant experience.
Agreed, dedicated servers for Australians are often worse
Biased poll is biased.
I would love to see search filters return in the next Halo, but the inclusion of them will not dictate whether or not I will buy the next installment.
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> I would love to see search filters return in the next Halo, but the inclusion of them will not dictate whether or not I will buy the next installment.
Same, I’m in America but I want everyone to have fun experiencing the game. Search filters won’t effect my decision to buy as much as other things.
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> I would love to see search filters return in the next Halo, but the inclusion of them will not dictate whether or not I will buy the next installment.
How is that biased?
Your poll is heavily flawed.
Yes, I want good connection searching. But I’m not going to quit over it.
> How is that biased?
Because the ‘yes’ options all involve not buying or trading in the game, when only a Yes/No/I don’t care option are needed.
> Your poll is heavily flawed.
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> Because the ‘yes’ options all involve not buying or trading in the game, when only a Yes/No/I don’t care option are needed.
But I wanted to capture how people’s purchasing options would be affected by the inclusion of the feature. Many of my friends have talked about what they’ll do if it’s not in the game. Some of them will avoid is and watch a let’s play of the campaign for the story, others will rent it etc.
The simple question of the poll is “how will it affect your purchasing of Halo 5” and it offers an positive, neutral and negative option for each possible scenario. It’s definitely not a “do you want this feature - yes, no, undecided” poll, but that does not make it flawed.
Can’t justify $599 for the Xbone + $50 for XBLG + whatever they charge for the next Halo just to continue the series. Many good exclusive games would have to come out for me to consider purchasing the Xbone.
If there aren’t dedicated Australian servers there’s no chance I’ll purchase the next Halo as I’m not interested in the Halo campaigns at all and I’ve played enough laggy Halo games.
> Can’t justify $599 for the Xbone + $50 for XBLG + whatever they charge for the next Halo just to continue the series. Many good exclusive games would have to come out for me to consider purchasing the Xbone.
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> If there aren’t dedicated Australian servers there’s no chance I’ll purchase the next Halo as I’m not interested in the Halo campaigns at all and I’ve played enough laggy Halo games.
Halo 5 will have dedicated servers. As long as you have a good connection anywhere, you will be fine. If you don’t, then your screwed. Your connection is only worse in AU and EU is because you have a bad connection, because dedicated servers don’t use peer to peer, and peer to peer can cater to people who have bad connections.
There really should have been an option for those of us who want it, but will still buy Halo 5 without it.
For anyone who voted for the top choice, if you’re going to let a little thing like that be the make or breaking point for a game, then why are you playing Halo to start with.
OP, tho I very much hope that search filters come back and actually work like they should, if they’re not in, I’m not about to not buy the game. I’d simply avoid playing matchmaking or suck it up, there’s other parts of the game other than just matchmaking, IE CUSTOMS, CAMPAIGN, the two things that made Halo popular. I would say Fire fight and Spartan OPs, but we have no idea if those two game modes are in there.
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> Agreed, dedicated servers for Australians are often worse
Dedicated servers + priority to searching for players from your region?
Halo REACH Search filters have been the best. And this was probably one of the best things about REACH other than its great UI.
Unfortunately for Halo 4, we didn’t have these functions because 343 said the game would do this automatically. This has not happened, as 80% of games I play are American Host (I’m from Australia).
I hope the next Halo has a search filter that works even better than that of REACH.
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> Agreed, dedicated servers for Australians are often worse
BF3 has Dedicated Server for Australia. And games are normally very good and no lag.
But the biggest issue when BF3 launched, there was not enough Dedicated Servers in Australia, and you had to choose another location.
Asia Servers were the next best, followed by US and then England.
So considering there is meant to be 15,000 new servers in Australia located at Sydney and Melbourne.
Finding a dedicated Australasian server should be good and not a problem.
But we will have to wait and see.
But I would still buy the next Halo regardless, as I buy it for the campaign. and Great multiplayer is just a bonus.
The only time dedicated servers are bad is if you don’t have a good enough connection for the game. Then instead of making everyone lag, only you lag.
Or if there isn’t a server close enough to your location, but if you have a good connection, this shouldn’t be a problem.
I live on the East Coast of Australia and if the server is located in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane I will be much better off then with this current peer to peer garbage.
Halo 4 got about 1/20th the total playtime I gave Halo Reach… and to be honest that is more than Halo 4 deserved. The problem for 343 is Halo Reach. Once a higher standard of matchmaking and networking is achieved you don’t go backwards. If you do the end result can ONLY be disappointment and ultimately a radically shortened lifespan for the online multiplayer portion of the game. I can’t fathom the kind of masochistic self abusing mentality of a person who’d actually attempt to push through the glitchy, horrid networking of off host games in Halo 4.
Its simple. 343 need to research and find out what Bungie did with their net code for Reach and either duplicate it or improve upon it. Delivering a poor mans version is NOT an option. In Reach I can be playing on French, Canadian, Mexican or Italian host and still get kills (and plenty of them). Of course on any international host there is some lag but at least in Halo Reach hit detection / hit registration still works. Halo 4 only needs a slightly sub par host and hit detection goes to crap. I don’t even search good connection in Reach and I have fun games. Whereas the ONLY fun games of Halo 4 have either been on my own host or a host from the same city as me. Halo 4’s delicate net code can’t handle small amounts of latency - but on international host it is a complete write off.
Meanwhile 343 bunkered down after Halo 4 released and pretended that the game was awesome and everything was just fine. I mean they only had themselves to blame after bypassing a international beta… so lets just pretend there isn’t an international community. 343 had 3 times the staff working on Halo 4 that Bungie had working on Halo Reach and look at what they managed to do to the games multiplayer networking. No reliable good connection options - the auto good connection is woefully loose even after two tightenings of the search by 343. Problem is if the game ran net code like Halo Reach I’d be playing Halo 4 right now - to this day - as still do with Reach. I don’t need host when the game actually works… when HIT DETECTION WORKS ON OR OFF HOST!
You would think 343 could only improve from such a woeful start but why don’t I have any confidence in them? Because they were the same arrogant bunch who decided they didn’t have time or need a international multiplayer beta before releasing Halo 4. Thats why I don’t trust them. A definite lack of respect or consideration for the international community appears to be the mindset of 343.